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Droid Shatters the Competitive Landscape

Posted by: Stephen Wildstrom on October 29, 2009

Droid photo
Not since the launch of the iPhone in 2007 has the announcement of a new product had as dramatic an effect on the competitive landscape of the smartphone business as did yesterday’s Verizon Wireless release of the Motorola Droid. The day after Droid, the handset, wireless networks, mapping, and navigation markets all look very different.

Although the Droid handset itself is a very nice piece of hardware, the real news here is Google’s Android 2.0 software. This major overhaul of the operating system and basic applications has taken Android from an interesting wannabe to a top-tier contender in the mobile software market. And the inclusion of Google Maps Navigation, with its free real-time, turn-by-turn driving instructions turns the nav business on its head.

The coming of age of Android could be very bad news for the weaker competitors in the smartphone business. Droid is no iPhone killer—the idea is silly—but it is a viable competitor. At worst, Apple’s penetration into the market will grow a bit more slowly.

I think Research In Motion will also continue to prosper because of its strength in the enterprise market, though it may find things a bit tougher as it seeks to build its share among consumers. The impact on Palm is hard to assess in large measure because the company and its carrier, Sprint, have been so stingy with information about Palm Pre sales. The very slow ramp of Pre applications is certainly a competitive problem. The biggest loser appears to be Microsoft. Windows Mobile 6.5 is a very modest improvement and Microsoft is at least a year away from having a competitive operating system. The only saving grace is that Windows Mobile's main strength is outside North America. Both it and Nokia will be hit much harder when Android 2.0 phones hit international markets, as they will sooner rather than later.

The question of whether, or if, Verizon will get the iPhone has been a popular parlor game, but the terms of the debate have just changed. With the Droid in its lineup, Verizon doesn't seem to need the iPhone as badly as it did a week ago. On the other hand, Apple is still stuck in an exclusive U.S. relationship with AT&T, whose wireless network is groaning under the demands increasingly unhappy iPhone users put on it. Suddenly, Apple seems to need Verizon more than Verizon needs Apple. That means that if Apple wants to get the iPhone onto Verizon, it might have to accept a less sweet deal than the $400 to $500 in subsidy AT&T pays for every iPhone activated on its network.

Of course, the folks really weeping into their beer in the wake of the Droid announcement are map producers, and the makers of mapping software and navigation devices. While Google Maps Navigation could use a little polishing, it offers unique features, such as voice search, and, most important, it's price of zero. Currently, there are two models for navigation services on handsets. You can buy an application, such as the $100 TomTom for the iPhone, that stores maps and driving directions on the device. Or you can subscribe to a service (mostly supplied by TeleNav, Networks in Motion, and AOL's Mapquest) for between $3 and $10 a month. Google's free service pretty much blows up this economic model, especially since Google says it plans to make the software available to other phones and other operating systems. Google, which had license maps from Tele Atlas (owned by TomTom) and others for its Google Maps service now is using its own maps for North America, so that's another industry headed for the dumper.

Things aren't any better for the makers of dedicated personal navigation (PND) devices such as Garmin, Magellan, and TomTom. These products can still offer a richer experience than phone-based navigation, but the gap has been narrowing as handsets get bigger displays that can show more information. And the standalone devices have been slow to add the wireless connectivity that is needed for in-route search. With PNDs already caught in the fierce margin squeeze that comes with commoditization, it4's hard to see much of a future for this business.

It's rare for one product announcement to wreak this much havoc on multiple industries. But that's what we are coming to expect from Google.

Reader Comments


October 29, 2009 4:57 PM

Here's the problem, Does it have iTunes the world's largest source for music? No. Does it have the App Store? No. Does it work like an iPod for movies and Music? No. Has the Android market made any kind of in roads as far as market share? No.

New studies show the iPhone very close behind RIM in market share to be the top smart phone out there.

All that doesn't pan out well for this phone. Just another wannabe iPhone Killer that will be on the side lines soon enough just like the others that have come and gone.


October 29, 2009 4:59 PM

Sweet and it has a user removable battery. I would pick this over the iPhone any day if I was to buy a smart phone.


October 29, 2009 5:05 PM

Please run a spell check before posting.



October 29, 2009 5:08 PM

Wow, there are LOTS of spelling and typing errors in this article.


October 29, 2009 5:17 PM

Fix the typo in your headline


October 29, 2009 5:18 PM

wants to to get

Stephen, are you out of high school yet? Learn to spell!

Business Week,
Can you guys at least hire competent people that can write and edit a simple article?

My 10 year old is looking for a job! Either learn to spell or get a manual job. The quality of writing and editing on the web is so subpar.


October 29, 2009 5:18 PM

Please proof read your articles before submitting them. Please

jan s

October 29, 2009 5:19 PM

This is a great phone! Its easy to see why it is going to dominate the marketplace.


October 29, 2009 5:23 PM

Sprints navigation services are free as well....


October 29, 2009 5:23 PM

Please use a spell checker and proof read at least once before posting!

Mark Goodwin

October 29, 2009 5:23 PM

Yet another author who can't see the forest for the apples on the tree. When will the tech media grow up and start realizing what a serious piece of crap the iPhone really is? Do any of you actually own that piece of junk?

As with just about every other piece of Apple hardware, it's all hype. Just compare the specs of the 'Droid to the iCrap. The 'Droid wins hands down.

Oh and don't say, but Apple has the iTunes app store. Get real. Between the Apple's censorship and the fact that 99.99999% of the programs that are available aren't worth having, Apple's in trouble if that's the best the Apple fanboy reviewers can come up with.

The 'Droid on its own may not be the iPhone killer, but Android 2.0 is. It's not hard to see why Apple and Google have severed ties recently. Google has finally done something right other than being the premier search engine. Grats to Google, Verizon and Motorola. I hope the world will finally wake up to the fact that Apple Inc is nothing more than marketing and media hype.


October 29, 2009 5:27 PM

Learn to spell check.

Avid Linux Supporter

October 29, 2009 6:29 PM

LINUX must be mentioned, it is the kernel and the sole reason that the droid will be the greatest mobile device since the idea to use radio signals to communicate over long distance, courtesy Nikola Tesla

Andrew K.

October 29, 2009 6:40 PM

After having months of horrific connection issues with the iPhone, I've decided to drop AT&T, and the Droid is the first phone I would consider using as an iPhone replacement. I don't care much about movies or iTunes... I just want my phone to work as, well, a phone. Due to the bandwidth being milked by the millions of iPhone on AT&T's networks, I have recently had a plethora of dropped calls, and even instances where I see full bars, but am unable to even reach the network (this typically occurs at sports events, stadiums, large venues, etc.).

As for the GPS capability... the dedicated device manufacturers have no need to worry. Cell phone based GPS works only as long as you have access to a cell signal. Try a remote hike, or doing a 4x4 offroad trail into the wilderness on your iPhone. You will quickly be on a blank "grid", as the iPhone is incapable of downloading any map data when out of cell range - and is unable to load maps in advance of going "out of bounds". Give me a cell phone that has full map data loaded onboard - and then maybe the GPS people will be concerned. Until then, GPS on cell phones is simply a novelty.


October 29, 2009 6:41 PM

No doubting that the iPhone is great, but it lacks one major thing.....a decent network. I think the droid will do very well based on people wanting to see what Android 2.0 can do, and by the fact that they have been waiting for something closer to the iPhone on their network.

Gill Bates

October 29, 2009 6:43 PM

Nav makers on phones are affected.
Standalone GPS will not be due to many reasons, such as signal availability.


October 29, 2009 6:50 PM

Mark Goodwin...what planet have you been living on? Obviously you have never owned an Apple product. Sure the Droid will be a great phone, but it will have to put up a very good fight to overtake the iPhone. Many of the apps on iPhone are very useful to say the least. You may not like how Apple markets it's products or how the media clamors over them, but that has nothing to do with the Apple's actual hardware and software or the capabilities of them both.


October 29, 2009 6:50 PM

October 29, 2009 04:59 PM

Sweet and it has a user removable battery. I would pick this over the iPhone any day if I was to buy a smart phone.

That's obviously because you're an idiot.


October 29, 2009 6:51 PM

i don't think that whole world listen music (in my group only 5 are music crazy out of nearly 100 iPhone users) and other 10-20 apps nobody uses 100K iphone apps. And everybody is excited about droid at least want to take a look at it so don't think that iPhone will not get competition at all.


October 29, 2009 6:51 PM

to the commentor questioning it's ability; it's open source. While the droid software is currently lacking in aps, anyone can make and distribute software for it.

You can put whatever you want on it, for free, the only limitation being space and security. You'll end up seeing lots of porn applications, I'm sure.

If anything, apple's review process / censorship and stock of applications is what's going to hurt them.


October 29, 2009 6:53 PM

jan s
October 29, 2009 05:19 PM

This is a great phone! Its easy to see why it is going to dominate the marketplace.

Hey! You know what's NOT going to dominate the market....your opinion.


October 29, 2009 6:54 PM

What you are seeing is the decline of the written language. TXTING has destroyed the written language. Rap has killed the spoken word. And you jerks worry about something not even related to the article. GROW UP!


October 29, 2009 6:55 PM

Trading my iPhone and the crappy AT&T service for this as soon as I am able to get my hands on one.


October 29, 2009 7:02 PM

What's wrong with brand loyalty?

I drink Pepsi, I prefer my spiral notebook to have the spiral on the top instead of on the side, I like to wear Chuck Taylors when I go running. I'm not trying to advertise or encourage people to buy what I own or support, but I do voice my opinion on my preferences because for this reason or that, I enjoy this product better.

Nowadays people like Mark Goodwin call you a fanboy and intimate you're an idiot if you don't side with them.

Where is the logic in that? Assuming you are an Apple fanboy, which I feel there is absolutely no shame in admitting, and people like Mark defame you --- then aren't you jumping ship to become a fanboy to some other product? Why is being a Droid fanboy so much better than being an Apple fanboy?

There's nothing wrong with speculation. After years of owning PCs, I started buying Macs and haven't looked back. I don't own an Iphone because I prefer my Itouch and it does everything I need it to do. I'm curious about the Droid and I've given thought to what my new phone would be.

Why does there have to be such hate in your support of one product over another? There is such a thing as compelling evidence to prove your point; you don't have to asassinate everyone's character in the process.

Santa Fean

October 29, 2009 7:06 PM

ATT is horrible. Always has been and will be in the future. Have you ever tried to correct an ATT billing problem? Would love an iphone but no way will I ever use ATT as I think they are the worst carrier out there. I use a Treo 755p with Sprint and have great service where I live. Android 2.0 is the only "system/software" that has me thinking about another phone. Don't really need any more features than what the Treo has....just want to stimulate the economy! Ha-ha.

Mark Goodwin is a Homo

October 29, 2009 7:07 PM

Yeah, you sir are an idiot. There is no real comparison for the iPhone. All other phones should kneel in all of its glorious glory!
You obviously have never done a sex offender search near your home.
Tell me that's not worth .99 cents!
blah blah blah the hype...
Yeah they hype their shizz cause its better than you. I want this phone to have my children, so if the f-up then I can just reformat them. Viola! New kid!
Also, they could just have screen protectors so I don't have to buy napkins!
It is for these simple reasons that you sir are a indeed an idiot.


October 29, 2009 7:08 PM

I would agree with Mark... Apple has an absolutely superb marketing team and that's about it. Whether they are selling the iPhone, the Apple computer, or iPods, Apple's technology fails and their marketing team succeeds. Apple has sold overpriced junk for years now and they will continue to get away with it because people (or iSheep as I call them) are led to believe their products are so much more than they really are. I'm not saying Android is the next big thing, but I'm hoping Google can back it up and it's not more tech hype.


October 29, 2009 7:08 PM

@Mr. White: Can you drag and drop most media forms onto the phone for play back? Yes, and you can buy music through THE LARGEST ONLINE RETAILER IN THE WORLD.

It Does have an (uncluttered) app store. It's called the android market place.

this is the device that will slow apple's saturation of the market, buy RIM some time, and thumb it's nose at WinMo. Google hasn't said it's wants to kill the iPhone, it just wants it's own share of the pie. Apple snobs like you feel threatend by a weak network that gets slower and less reliable with every iPhone activation. Do your homework before you make ignorant statements.


October 29, 2009 7:09 PM

iPhone and Android leave Microsoft with no viable niche in the mobile marketplace. iPhone has the apps, downloads and market, and Android has the cost advantage of Linux and the technical coolness. Where does that leave Microsoft, with high per unit licensing costs and no ecosystem like Apple's? No place but the exit ramp of history.


October 29, 2009 7:11 PM

Mark Goodwin-
You couldn't be more wrong, to point you could invert your entire rant 180 degrees and end up pretty close to reality.
Android 2.0 is awesome, but it's no where near the user experience to hold in your hand and use as the iPhone's OS and simplicity. There is an elegance the android feels like a cross between windows 3.1 and Palm WebOS, but more awkward and less intuitive.
Apple doesn't need hardware specs that match this Motorola...that's precisely the brilliance that is their OS, ecosphere, and development's about the software, not the hardware.
Let's give Android OS a few years to catch up in dev time though...they are just getting started. But so too, I fear for you, is Apple and their entire vision of where wearable computing is headed.
Saying Apple is media hype means nothing. If it were true, then I'm all for stock is up 5000%, and my home is filled with 8 different best-of-class Apple products. Sometimes the 'hype' is just another word for real transformation and a computing revolution underway faster than you can spell Android...let alone Motorola.


October 29, 2009 7:14 PM

Mark, I own the piece of junk. It seems you don't understand marketing and product design, and I would point to the fact that millions have bought the "junk" Iphone and are extremely happy with it. People don't buy things because they line up a set of technical specs on one side and the other and pick the "winner". They buy things because they like the form, fit, functionality, etc. Most consumers could give a crap if one processor is faster than the other, what they care about is the user experience which is unmatched by any Iphone competitor and I've tried them all. Apple are non-linear thinkers, frankly so is Google so Android as a system has hope, but the device designers at Motorola are total linear thinkers and don't have a chance against Apple.

Frank Forum

October 29, 2009 7:17 PM

@Mark Goodwin,

Specs won't play that big of a roll. Apps will be a much bigger roll. Specs are for techies and smart phones are for users and users want apps. It does not take an industry expert to know that.

Anyone who does not have an iPhone nor Touch and claims "99.99999% of the apps are not worth having" is obviously a liar.

Your jealousy does you no good.


October 29, 2009 7:17 PM

iCrap. iLike that name :)

Can't wait to get the droid, i use a Palm Centro and it's decent... but the droid looks much more kickass and more appealing to the eyes.

One question... using the google maps and browsing the net on the droid, is it WiFi or will it be a data charge?


October 29, 2009 7:17 PM

Hey Mark,

Recently got fired from Apple, did we?


October 29, 2009 7:18 PM

Why is that with every release of some new chunk of hardware, there is a chorus singing requiem to the IPhone? An absolutely fascinating phenomena. I do not remember a single time when Apple would introduce anything as "killer of something". Apple just makes great products that other trying to kill for some unexplainable reason. Why is that so?


October 29, 2009 7:18 PM

Why is that with every release of some new chunk of hardware, there is a chorus singing requiem to the IPhone? An absolutely fascinating phenomena. I do not remember a single time when Apple would introduce anything as "killer of something". Apple just makes great products that other trying to kill for some unexplainable reason. Why is that so?


October 29, 2009 7:19 PM

Mr. White you are wrong on the majority of what you say. No, it does not have itunes, but there is an app available that can remotely control itunes just like the iphone. Android phones DO have an app store and unlike the iphone's apps the majority of the apps are free. Finally, why should market share make any difference to the daily user?


October 29, 2009 7:20 PM

As the author suggests, this may annoy the iphone but it will crush the Windows OS devices and deliver the most important future element - geo-synchronized advertising revenue along with a useful browser.

Google is an advertising engine, getting your eyeballs on their map generates future revenue that Microsoft/Bing/Virtual Earth will not get their hands on. High resolution screens also help to deliver ad impressions which would otherwise be lost to ever increasing smart phone usage.

It's a win/win/win. Google is able to get future impressions via mobile devices, Iphone has to raise the bar (consumers win), and Verizon does not have to grovel before the Apple machine.

Droid has the ability to simultaneously take Windows Mobile OS revenue, Netbook Windows 7 revenue, and Bing advertising revenue from Microsoft. All this while protecting their future advertising empire. The iphone compete is just an added bonus.


October 29, 2009 7:22 PM

Mark Goodwin, I don't know a better what to say this: You're just wrong.

I own an iPhone. But I'm no Apple fanboy. The biggest hesitation I had when purchasing it was because of the logo on the back. I've never liked Apple, and I like the image that comes with owning one of their products even less. But after using most of the phones available it was the obvious choice; it's simply the best phone out there. Were there other good ones? Sure. Will something new beat it? I hope so. But as far as I've seen, nothing comes close.

For most people, a phone is not about specs. Not one single thing I own spends as much time with me as my phone. The only things that come close are wallet and keys. Every day I put on different clothes, but I pick up the same phone. And it's at my side nearly 24 hours a day. For something that's this much a part of your life, it's important that it be comfortable in your pocket. It's important that it's simple as pie to use. It's important that it just plain works. And that is where Apple has always excelled. The iPhone is very easy to use, has a browser that takes me to the real internet, and is a darn good music player too.

Don't get me wrong. The iPhone certainly has its problems. Censorship is a problem, but I only know of one censored application that actually would have been useful to anyone. The battery life sucks. The so-so navigation is more than anyone really needs, but it's clearly missing some obvious functionality. You're right that there are a bunch of crap applications out there, but you know you don't have to download all of them, right? There are some really excellent ones too.

Apple has some excellent marketing and unbelievable amounts of media hype, but you're just being ignorant if you think that the iPhone doesn't deserve some of the hype.


October 29, 2009 7:23 PM

I hate the apple products! Mostly because whenever I have wanted to use one, its "user friendly interface" translates into "interface with draconian restrictions which won't allow you to do what you want."

Why is Microsoft imitating this?

Google has it right with creating an OS which has the main benefit of working the way it should and continue working the way it should. Open development means that it works.


October 29, 2009 7:24 PM


Your anti-Apple rant suggests that you are the one who can't see the forest. Have you ever checked smartphone customer satisfaction ratings? The iPhone blows everything else away.

To suggest that the millions of happy iPhone users are the product of marketing hype is just condescension. No, I take it back, they are just not as smart as you. How dare they be so happy, stupid little sheep!

Seriously, though, I am glad that Verizon is finally pulling it's head out of its you-know-what by adopting the Android platform. Want to talk about control freaks? They wouldn't even let their phones have WiFi until recently, and they have dictated terms to phone manufacturers. The success of the iPhone has forced them to change these practices, and we all should be happy about that.


October 29, 2009 7:28 PM

Mark. Business is about marketing and selling. Apple does that well and makes money. No matter what you think of Apple products, check out the return on investment for us stockholders who invested more than 10 years ago. Few companies earn so much for their investors.


October 29, 2009 7:28 PM

The Android will pick up and consolidate its "target" market share via accessing Google applications, just like the iPhone has done with Apple's applications. RIM's Blackberry will continue to hold onto its own dedicated users due to its propriety (and secure) exchange server for e-mails. Different strokes for different folks!! However, watch out RIM!...because one of these days either Apple or Google (or both) will offer their own secure exchange servers to meet the needs of business execs (and those of their respective cultivated market)... and RIM simply will not be able to compete against Apple and Google financial largesse!

Digital Mercenary

October 29, 2009 7:31 PM

Thanks Mark Goodwin,

Your checksʻs in the mail.


October 29, 2009 7:34 PM

Does it have iTunes the world's largest source for music?
No, but it does have Amazon MP3, which is fully DRM-free and in universally compatible MP3 format.

Does it have the App Store?
No, but it does have the Android App Market. The argument of 100,000 vs. 10,000 apps is retarded; using this same Apple-fanboy rationale, we should all buy PCs as they have a greater number of useless freeware and shareware programs available for install.

Does it work like an iPod for movies and Music?
Actually, yes, if by 'like an iPod' you mean it plays movies, music, video podcasts in the same formats.

Has the Android market made any kind of in roads as far as market share?
No, but considering that Android was largely limited to T-mobile for the better part of the first year, and T-mobile has a relatively small market share, this is not surprising. Yes, recent research shows iPhone rapidly taking share from RIM and Palm. However, that same share will be in heavy competition with Android once it hits Verizon, and recent research also shows Android overtaking iPhone share in less than 4 years. The reason is clear once you consider the difference in approach between Apple and Google. Apple (and RIM and Palm for that matter) is primarily a hardware company selling a phone with a proprietary OS that takes advantage of third-party app development. Google is primarily a software company giving away an open OS to third-party phone manufacturers while also taking advantage of third-party app developmet. The inevitable result will be multiple phone manufacturers working in parallel to flood the market with Android phones on every carrier, the scale of which no single company, including Apple, will be able to match. The 'iPhone killer' is mythical as the iPhone is here to stay, but it will inevitably be dominated by Android or another open OS standard not tied to a single hardware manufacturer.

Robert K

October 29, 2009 7:34 PM

@Regulas-If I may make an observation about the removable battery. Maybe all the millions of iPod, iPhone, iPod Touch owners really do not fund the removable battery a disadvantage after all. We have all been brought up to assume that a removable battery is the way to go. Until I realize that my spare Blackberry battery I paid a tidy sum for (in relation to the gadget itself) was never used. Why? I find myself having to maintain another battery. I do not know how fully charged it is and 90% of the time, I am near a charging point anyway. And whenever I "change" the battery, the whole gadget gets "reset". I think the removable battery is a way for these gadgets to be "reset" at a high cost. I prefer the iPhone's elegant method of "resetting".


October 29, 2009 7:35 PM

The iPhone is wonderful and continues to be a game changing device.

The Droid may be the first worthy competitor.

And apparently "Mark Goodwin" is an idiot.


October 29, 2009 7:38 PM

As somebody on another forum commented, the only real iPhone killer in America is going to be the AT&T network.

Nevertheless, I am a current Verizon subscriber who was on the verge of abandoning them for AT&T just as I heard about this phone. Verizon is SO lucky to not lose me as a customer. I was literally at one point moments away from buying an iPhone when for some reason I decided to back down. (Actually that reason was the AT&T network).

I've been waiting desperately for this phone ever since I first heard about it. I hope it's going to live up to its hype!

Robert K.

October 29, 2009 7:40 PM

@Regulas-If I may make an observation about the removable battery. Maybe all the millions of iPod, iPhone, iPod Touch owners really do not fund the removable battery a disadvantage after all. We have all been brought up to assume that a removable battery is the way to go. Until I realize that my spare Blackberry battery I paid a tidy sum for (in relation to the gadget itself) was never used. Why? I find myself having to maintain another battery. I do not know how fully charged it is and 90% of the time, I am near a charging point anyway. And whenever I "change" the battery, the whole gadget gets "reset". I think the removable battery is a way for these gadgets to be "reset" at a high cost. I prefer the iPhone's elegant method of "resetting".


October 29, 2009 7:40 PM

Android beating the iPhoneOS? iPhone apps worthless? While Android has potential, and is good for some, it is still somewhat complicated and lacks extensibility. Google is poor at documenting APIs which has put the development of applications for this platform at a snail's pace. A stroll down application lane for Android will tell you this. Conversely, iPhone app numbers grow daily. For productivity alone, the number of good apps is staggering. So please, spare us the fanboy rhetoric and stick to the facts.


October 29, 2009 7:41 PM

Well actually Mr. White, the Droid is suppose to play video and be able to take HD video, which is something so people have complained about with the phones out today. As far as Itunes, its way over rated and FYI, merging with Itunes is something you can do with just about any music playing phone out there...heck my Blackberry will sync directly with it. The only thing the iPhone has got right now is the app store and even then Google has the 2nd biggest store as of now. If Apple continues to be stubborn like they did back in the day with their battle with Microsoft and not expand their service to other carriers, this phone very well could be the one to level the field.


October 29, 2009 7:41 PM

It's a new product but it's just for verizon which limits it's growth to one carrier which is not healthy for the phone developers themselves. the iphone would have a deeper market share if they wouldn't have went exclusive and I am not going to rack up termination fee's just for this phone.


October 29, 2009 7:42 PM

I agree that dedicated GPS devices have a seamlessness by virtue of being dedicated. (I have an iPhone, and yes, dedicated buttons for essential tasks would make some of them better.) But the great threat to dedicated GPS devices--not connected to data--is the ability for Google to make revenue from serving custom content. Google maps is already providing sponsored POIs, Garmin can't tap into that without a data feed.

M Arnold

October 29, 2009 7:44 PM

"Droid Shatters the Competitive Landscape"

LMAO, hyperbole much??

Ste|phen Wildstrom

October 29, 2009 7:45 PM

Whats spel ceck>/?? you guys are wackjoibs!@!!! Oh, 'nd by the way, im ate!

Robert K.

October 29, 2009 7:49 PM

@Mark Goodwin~"Apple Inc. is nothing more than marketing and media hype"? The second largest market cap company in the tech world, only behind MSFT? So which other listed company comes close? All the millions of shareholders, analysts, debt rating agencies etc. have been hoodwinked? Its $36 billion cash is all garnered from years of "marketing hype"? Perhaps you have had a deep unsavory history with this company or its products? Think deep. Visit a shrink. It might help flush out those nightmares.

Jim Tierney

October 29, 2009 7:49 PM

The iPhone is a great phone. If for no other reason than it broke a ton of new ground, which until now, noone has stepped up to match. Yes most of the apps are crap, but those that aren't offer nice improvements to the phone. The thing that most people don't view as innovation, and why you can't look at the iPhone based on pure tech specs, is the UI. Apple pays a great deal of attention to the user experience. It's innovative and it matters.

That said, there's a ton of room for improvement and I find it amazing that it's taken this long for a serious competitor to emerge. It's great to see a phone that answers the iphone and takes it up a notch. Hopefully we'll see a lot more.

The only thing saving RIMM is their strength in enterprise. Their answers to the iPhone have been weak. The initial Storm was pathetic, alhtough I've heard the new one is better. If the Droid, with it's keyboard, also has enterprise level email capabilities RIMM had better watch out.

The Palm Pre is a good phone, but they partnered with... Sprint? Stupid. Both companies are now locked in a death spiral. The Droid is not the iPhone killer, it's the Pre killer. Palm had a window of opportunity and they blew it by partnering with Sprint. Both are f'd companies.


October 29, 2009 7:49 PM

Proof please, proof.

Tiburon Eric

October 29, 2009 7:51 PM

No iTunes? No App Store? No iPod functionalities?

What? No hipster arrogance about "if you can't figure me out, you shouldn't own me? No pointless obsessed-boss-driven insistence on "only one button"? No fascination with form over function to the point where it seems the desire is more to impress "GQ" than "Wired"?

Great! I'm already sold. Finally, someone is marketing a smart phone that's more about what I want than what some aging hippie THINKS I want.

Scottie P

October 29, 2009 7:59 PM

Mr. Goodwin,

I'll agree with your comment that Apple has stellar marketing and media hype, but you have to admit that Steve Jobs has done more than create a little smoke and mirrors. After all, the Droid is Google's answer to the iPhone's blitz on the smartphone market. Without the iPhone... I'd still need a decoder ring to browse the web from my phone. The iPhone was game changing, the Droid is now game changing, and Apple will now have to answer the call for something better.

But Mark, to call the iPhone or Apple "crap" is just plain ignorant. Go back to your vinyl records and land line bro... because you obviously haven't followed the influences in technology over the last few years.


October 29, 2009 8:00 PM

Can't get an Iphone to work in our area. Have to drive 100 miles to get service. That is why I have Verizon. This interests me greatly. May have to consider when my current contract runs out.


October 29, 2009 8:02 PM

How is google maps a game-changer? I've had that (free) app on my iphone since the day I bought it. Works great.


October 29, 2009 8:04 PM

Google maps keeps sending me to the wrong addresses - does anyone else have this issue? Searching for businesses, I keep getting sent to residential areas.

Otherwize, I'4m deaply disapointed in thas righter. Duh.


October 29, 2009 8:08 PM

OK you say this is not an Iphone killer. I have a G1 and it kicks that Iphone all over the place in terms of utility and price and use. There really is not a comparison. The added plus is you don't have to deal with AT&T. The Iphone is a piece of over-hyped junk made for "stylista" fan-people who have no concept of how to actually use technology but really like it cuz its pretty. Good riddance Iphone and Apple.

G1 Rules!
Droid will dominate the market


October 29, 2009 8:09 PM

"Not since the launch of the iPhone in 2007 has the announcement of a new product had as dramatic an effect on the competitive landscape of the smartphone business as did yesterday’s Verizon Wireless release of the Motorola Droid"

I dare anyone to conduct a poll on the street asking, "have you heard of the Motorola Droid?" no one I know has, the fact is apple controls the hearts and minds of the average Joe. They may not have the best device but the expirience as a whole is better than anything else I've ever used. I'm sure RIM is the smartphone leader, but more people lust after apple's wares. It will be a few years before this is truly a two-horse race. There just isn't a worthy competitor yet for the iPhone. I truly wish there was as it would push innovation and competition in the market.


October 29, 2009 8:10 PM

MrWhite, jealous much? Here's the problem Apple faces, Android is Google's baby. Google is going to do everything it can to make sure it's mobile OS destroys the IPhone. Google has higher brand recognition than Apple so it's just a matter of making everyone aware that Google is behind Android. I'm not worried one bit. Android is going to prevail.


October 29, 2009 8:10 PM

I am planning on getting the Droid.
-I like Google; gmail, calendar Google Voice, Picasa, etc. This Google centric phone appeals to me much more than other Android phones.
-Verizon has the best network. Sprint was ok. I had too many dropped calls on AT&T.
-I want a decent camera with flash.
-It supports Outlook exchange server, business users rejoice.
-So many consultants that I work with carry both a Blackberry and an iPhone. They need the Blackberry for business but there are a few must have iPhones apps they they use for travelling. I have high hopes for Android open development.
-Verizon not locking any features. Verizon is actually letting people play in their sandbox. Verizon has locked out pretty much everything on my current phone.


October 29, 2009 8:12 PM

Seriously people, you just can't afford Apple's iphone and ATT's data charges. Stop sourgraping please.

KI77Mark Goodwin

October 29, 2009 8:12 PM

My guess is that Mr Goodwin has never used an "icrap" before. If its A serious piece of crap why have 21 MILLION people bought the Iphone? According to Mark its all marketing and media hype! Your comment makes you sounds like a retard. "the fact that 99.99999% of the programs that are available aren't worth having." Again with your OPINIONS that nobody wants to hear. Heres a FACT for you, 2 BILLION apps have beed downloaded. I think its safe to say that most people dont think 99.99999% of the apps are wothless!


October 29, 2009 8:12 PM

Ditto to Mark Goodwin. I have nothjing to add, other than the fact that the writer of the article is apparently illiterate and Mr. White is an idiot.


October 29, 2009 8:13 PM

Hey, Mark G. - One thing I learned in school is to verify facts prior to publishing my comments. I would say that 99.99999% of your comments are personal drivel!

Jedi H.

October 29, 2009 8:20 PM

There will always be something new and better coming out. At the moment the iphone experience is the best for me. Maybe tomorrow, its the Droid's turn. If you need a smartphone right now, buy today's best. You just cannot keep on waiting for "the best" or you won't ever own and enjoy a smartphone since there's almost always a "better" phone released tomorrow.

Yeshua Watson

October 29, 2009 8:21 PM

Does it have iTunes the world's largest source for music? No.
- And based on Apple's treatment of Palm for allowing users to sync their Pres to their iTunes collection, no device ever will. You've literally wasted thousands of dollars for something you thought you owned. Let your iTunes library crash and lose your iPhone, then you'll see how friendly Apple will be.

Does it have the App Store? No.
- Not Apple's App store (see comment above about iTunes) but then again, you do have your 80,000 apps for farts and apps that are actually advertisements. All the useful apps for the iPhone are on Android's Market, Blackberry's app store, and even Microsoft's market. Congrats to you for owning the largest saturation of crappy apps.

Does it work like an iPod for movies and Music? No.
- If you're asking if it will play music (in four formats for choice) and movies (in four formats for choice again), then yes. But unlike the iPhone and iPod, you can get your music and movies from anywhere.

Has the Android market made any kind of in roads as far as market share? No.
- Android has about 5-7% global market share which is impressive considering they released their first phones last year. Android is expected to be the number two smart phone operating system by 2012. Meanwhile, the iPhone has been in decline for global market share since July. *Gartner

New studies show the iPhone very close behind RIM in market share to be the top smart phone out there.
- Please elaborate on where you received these "studies."

As much as you may hate it, your iPhone is in a decline while other manufactures are catching up by offering Android for their devices. (in the cellphone market, I call this "The RAZR effect." Everyone wanted a RAZR; everyone got a RAZR; and everyone through them away) This has happen to Apple before when Microsoft and IBM came in and knocked Apple off to the side while Windows took over. But Apple isn't looking to be the single cell phone provider. This goal would never be obtained if it were their sole business model. Apple is making money from iPhone sales and their PC (you may call them Macs) sales. The price of the iPhone won't drop much as some might expect(because of increased competition). Windows has 95% of the market share and that has not made Apple lose a wink of sleep; in fact, they've raised their prices even though their computers are cheaper to make.

Apple would be just as comfy in third or fourth place in the smart phone market, because they would simply find ways to be more profitable from their current offerings.

Android is not an iPhone killer in any sense that Windows has been a Mac killer. Android is targeting Symbian (Nokia) who holds the number one spot right now, globally. Google is only concerned about selling more ads even if they have to give you a phone to view them. Don't worry yourself about someone knocking the iPhone off its thrown; that's inevitable in the cellular industry. Worry that you've purchased a device, music, movies, games, applications, etc. and can't take them anywhere unless Apple says so; even if they choose not to support your iPhone anymore.


October 29, 2009 8:26 PM

Google is doing to Apple what Microsoft did to Apple years ago. Unless Apple mends its ways it going to meet the same fate in the smartphone market.


October 29, 2009 8:28 PM



October 29, 2009 8:33 PM

Its frightening that people are in such a rush nowadays to be the first to put something on the internet, that they forget to run a spell check or even proof read thier article. Also, there's a few glaring omissions in the article. Just sayin..

d rossini

October 29, 2009 8:34 PM

The Droid doesn't need to be the iPhone killer, it just needs to be a WinMo and Symbian killer. Anybody with a 5 year outlook on the smartphone landscape only sees iPhone, RIM and Android as viable OS at that point.

Android 2.0 will go after hi-end phones in the near term to earn street-cred, but will creep into cheap phones by this time next year - the so-called "free" phones that are given away for signing up. ANd the biggest market for that is Asia, where "free" will sell quite effortlessly. In the 5 year outlook, no other hardware can compete on this level, as the hi-end is only a small portion, and the subsidies phone companies have to pay on each of them makes them a burden, compared to the low-end. And only Android can compete in the low-end. In fact, Android will be the ONLY low-end smartphone OS, so the competition their is nonexistent.

Anyone that dares to underestimate the power of Android will be surprised by this, as they are probably iPhone fan boys. But Google's ability to compete in low-end where Apple cannot will make them a marathon runner of which Apple will be pressed keep outsmarting. ANd that competition will make both OS's better in the long run, and hard for anyone else to come close to.

Jon T

October 29, 2009 8:36 PM

For Mark Goodwin to comment below saying the iPhone is a 'serious piece of crap' is just hilarious.

He would be far more believable if he told us he came from planet Zog!

Perhaps, with that opinion, he does.


October 29, 2009 8:41 PM

Stop with that spell check u monkeys. I think he got the idea from the first 6 posts. I don't need to see another 1000 about wrong spelling. Grow up. I want to read peoples opinions about phones OS.

android alternative

October 29, 2009 8:42 PM

Droid is not an iPhone killer, it's an iPhone alternative...whether iPhone user like or not...soon or later it will become jailbroken iPhone.


October 29, 2009 8:42 PM

I think I love the Droid... but geez... how about utilizing spell check?? Here we are talking about new technology, yet the author still can't use old technology.


October 29, 2009 8:42 PM

I think I love the Droid... but geez... how about utilizing spell check?? Here we are talking about new technology, yet the author still can't use old technology.


October 29, 2009 9:07 PM

We are finally on the road to ubiquitous computing that will appeal to everyone else who isn't a woman. This might be a path to a platform in commercializing and introducing open source to the public and cull custom apps from independent developers. This could be the start of a new way of computing and not just 500 ways to listen to music. There needs to be an agressive campaign against the stagnant Apple conformists. Change; progress in the computer world comes from the culmination of many ideas, not just Steve Job's say-so.

Ted Thomas

October 29, 2009 9:28 PM

Mr. Wildstrom posits Verizon+Google as the "game changer" takeaway regarding Droid; I would go one level deeper and say it is "best network + open source". Here are three reasons why:

1. The internet has changed the world because it is open-- that is, anybody with the $ and smarts can do a brand new, wildly successful thing that promptly, in many cases, changes the entire game. In the world of tightly regulated telecom, that hasn't happened yet-- but Droid is an inflection point that may start it.
2. Phones (as a form factor, not so much as a particular device) and the server cloud are the future. What Linux hasn't done yet to Windows, open source Android can definitely do to all other phone OSes. On the desktop, MS is still the gorilla in the room-- on the phonetop, it is Verizon+Google.
3. Most people want phones that just work-- inexpensively. Apple will never produce them, because cutting edge beauty in design costs too much money. Android can do it, because it is open source backed by a company who business model (text ads everywhere) remains unchallenged in market share and is massively profitable.

Give it 2 years. There will be 50+ Android "things" (many of them embedded in other objects like appliances, tools, cars, etc.) and gorilla will be spelled with 2 "O"s.


October 29, 2009 9:41 PM

MrWhite...I suggest you check your store, yes music and movies...yes, market share, well it's new, have to start somewhere right? Make sure you check your facts before you post

you dont get it

October 29, 2009 9:51 PM

Mr. White, the article talks about what Droid #2 is offering for free. What you talk about is what Apple sells at ridiculously high prices. Of course people that want to waste money won't be buying the droid.


October 29, 2009 10:34 PM

The real question is whether the software on the Droid and its successor phones measures up. The genius of the iPhone has been software -- it's the beginning and end of the product. People put up with the frustration and humiliation of AT&T and the irritation of iPhone's questionable voice reception even when it's on a functioning part of AT&T's network, all because the software just works.

No other company offers fully functioning IMAP sync, cross-platform sync, good tools for software developers, fast processors and easy-to-use software in a single package. None. RIM, supposedly the email specialists, refuse to properly support full sync on IMAP and only just integrated the Mac; Android and WinMo have yet to devise a Mac sync solution and depend on dodgy third-party software for this purpose; there are no Android phones at least on Verizon with world GSM frequencies; WinMo is slow and often on inadequate hardware; developer APIs on the non-iPhone platforms range from mediocre to dreadful thereby restricting the supply of software; and so on.

Kreig Zimmerman

October 29, 2009 10:35 PM

This article is pablum. Sheer deadline-oriented brain-spill.

Android presents no threat to Apple, or the iPhone. What all the 1337 hax0rz forget is that not one, not one, of Joe or Jane Average wants complexity or "diversity". They want simple, well-packaged, integrated solutions. Apple wins here.

The rest of the handset industry can crowd onto the Android bandwagon, but this is a pile of me-too-ism propped on top of a GPL fuse...


October 29, 2009 11:28 PM

I have an Iphone 3g and a Blackberry. The Blackberry is the true winner here when you talk about what really makes a phone. Components are everything... The blackberry is simply better made. Having said all that, the Motorola Droid will combine the best of both worlds (User functionality and better components) Hey apple, try getting better parts for you phone...


October 29, 2009 11:28 PM

I have an Iphone 3g and a Blackberry. The Blackberry is the true winner here when you talk about what really makes a phone. Components are everything... The blackberry is simply better made. Having said all that, the Motorola Droid will combine the best of both worlds (User functionality and better components) Hey apple, try getting better parts for you phone...


October 29, 2009 11:58 PM

@Mark Goodwin. First, it's very hard to take anyone seriously when they use the term "iCrap".

Second, I strongly recommend that you look up the definition of "censorship". Your use of the word in that context is incorrect. Censorship applies to government, not private industry.

Finally, I find it remarkable that you're able to call Android 2.0 an "iPhone Killer" seeing as it's been out for such a short amount of time. Could it possibly be that you're stating an opinion? Based on the "iCrap" comment, I think so.

red neck

October 30, 2009 12:03 AM

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October 30, 2009 12:10 AM


Its not about the fact that it doesn't have I-Tunes and the app store you moron, someone like me who can do a lot more than just use a computer, and who can make programs will want this phone. It's got better hardware, a better more costly network, and all the other things can be added on there and added on there for FREE yeah FREE which is what people wanna see, less money not 1.29 a song now. They wanna see prices go down not up.!

So no it wont be on the sidelines its gonna do some serious damage I've been on this phone all week reading about it. Apple has the advantage but they better act quick because this phone will put a bullet right into there side.

Can't underestimate Google as a company, they don't know how to fail unlike some companies yeah apple.(if you don't know what I'm talking about when i say that then don't waste your time even making such comments)


October 30, 2009 2:32 AM

D Rossini has the smartest, most intuitive, spot on post in here... after mine of course.


October 30, 2009 3:24 AM

If you use any of Google's applications, Android makes it easy to seamlessly sync them all, whether it's Picasa, Gmail, Calendar, Maps, or Docs. Over the year since the G1 first came out, gradual improvements to Android have been pushed out to all Android phones, and the changes are quite wonderful.

I realize a lot of people are not much fans of Google, and are fans of some other platform. So be it. But if you like Google's products, using an Android phone is by default, necessary for a perfectly seamless and always connected lifestyle.

Droid signifies the massive expansion of Android-based products onto various networks in the US and around the world, as well as a broadside attack on all other platforms that aren't as integrated with the full complement of cloud apps as Android has.

Welcome to Android; welcome to the cloud.


October 30, 2009 7:08 AM

are these moderated?

Steve Wildstrom

October 30, 2009 7:24 AM

@Aytee--Barely. Comments have to be approved before they are posted, but as a matter of policy, I will generally approve anything that isn't blatantly racist, obscene, or otherwise really offensive. At one point last night I considered closing comments because the flame war seemed to be getting out of hand, but it died down on its own.


October 30, 2009 8:55 AM

Why does it seem like most of these posts are written by product marketing people?


October 30, 2009 10:04 AM

Who says that the Droid has to overtake the iPhone in order to be successful? There are lots of products that aren't number 1 in their respective markets that sell quite well and generate lots of profit for their companies. And while the iPhone does have more applications available for it at the moment, that might not always be the case.


October 30, 2009 10:08 AM

@ Mr. White

I tried the iphone about a year ago and it was horrible. Don't get me wrong, the app store and access to itunes was great. But it couldn't handle one very important function - making a call. I don't know if Apple or AT&T was to blame, but I experienced a 35% dropped call rate (according to the people at the Genius Bar). I will never use AT&T or the Apple Iphone again. Verizon has the best network and now they are finally getting some decent phones that aren't locked down.

Rich Desmond

October 30, 2009 11:01 AM

Another plus for the android system is HTC which is the best of the Windows Mobile phones has put its heft behind it. Their new android phone from sprint has native Exchange connectivity and software to display word and excell documents. All I need is PDF reader and I am set at 1/2 the price of the Pro


October 30, 2009 11:28 AM

Eff-n get over yourselves Spelling/Grammar police. Are you paying for this article? No, so shut the hell up.


October 30, 2009 12:21 PM

To be an iphone killer you have to have better hardware. The Droid doesnt. The only thing better on the droid is the screen res, at 854x480 that is pretty darn good. But everything else its just a wash. Both have same CPU & GPU. iphone has 16/32GB of ROM, Droid only a puny 512MB of ROM for OS and apps. LOSER! Android 2.0 works and feels like windows 3.1 or windows 95. Iphone UI works and feels like Vista/Win7. Its just that much better. Iphone has over 27 million units sold. Android, less than a million. LOSER! Android is pretty much irrelevant in the world right now. Android games look like Atari 2600, iphone games look like PS2. Android has no multitouch. Iphone's multitouch works just like common sense. Iphone's adaptive onscreen keyboard is excellent, android onscreen keyboards SUCK. The only negative with iphone is AT&T. Thats it plain and simple. Wait until July when the 4th gen iphone comes out, the hardware is going to smoke anything that android is on.


October 30, 2009 2:54 PM

I used to marvel at software that would enable me to do thing I couldn't do unless I paid. But, Google has no respect for industries where people need jobs. They launch software, not thinking about how it will affect people and they obliterate companies this way.

Tom Tom and Garmin certainly made great GPS devices, but more over, they employ people. Google makes software for free and it blows up entire businesses. While I think innovation is great, and I believe that companies need to diversify, Google's motto of "Don't be evil" is going to haunt them.

When you think about it, every time they do something like this, it shuts down a business. So what if the app is great and free. What if you don't release it? What if you realize that as a company, your accountable to how much you destroy, just as much as you innovate?

I hope that as time goes on, we'll see people actually avoiding free apps and choosing to pay. Why would any of us pay for an app we can get for free, right? Right. So, maybe it's not about that.

If we don't spend domesticlly, the United States will suffer. Google is not in the corner of the U.S. at all. While I understand that these tools are great and give us ease of use, we need to start asking the deeper, moral questions of why release something like this. Maybe, if Google really cared, they'd think about all the people that will be out of work immediately because of this.

And, saying, the other guy would have done it if they hadn't isn't an excuse for Google anymore.

If we invest in the U.S. buying here, everything gets better communally. In these harsh times, it's a harsh move by Google.

I suppose there's a ton of ways you can look at this. All I can think about is the Garmin and Tom-Tom people using their GPS systems to go to a job they will no longer have...thanks to Google. Not just them, but their suppliers, the assembly team...etc.

First it was industrialization, then automation, then virtulization. Pretty soon we'll have a bunch of free stuff, but nowhere to buy anything real because we will have given in to the idea of free.

Free comes with a cost.

Google, you suck!


October 30, 2009 6:26 PM

RIMM and PALM should be very worried.

Tech PR Guy

October 30, 2009 7:14 PM

Is Nav on a phone really the end all be all? It's a nice luxury but pretty sure a good portion of consumers will want their nav on a larger screen. Sure, the new Android nav will steal some overall marketshare and possibly crush existing mobile guys like Telenav, but to say Garmin or TomTom are in trouble might be a stretch.

That's like saying a free 19" HDTV is going to ruin the entire LCD industry. I'll take a 50" screen and pay for it, thanks.

Greg Finley

October 31, 2009 11:02 AM

Anyone who doesn't like the iPhone and Apple is either A) cheap, or B) Ignorant!


October 31, 2009 4:43 PM

I've seen less immature, annoying, and stupid arguments about sex in MMO games.


October 31, 2009 4:50 PM

All you fools keep arguing over the IPhone and when it will be dethroned... For us Apple shareholders we just keep ringing the register...


October 31, 2009 5:00 PM

BD Kuchera, You are an absolute IDIOT! So, let me get this straight: Google sucks because they offer free software that outperforms software from companies that charge steep prices? Google puts people out of work because they are so successful with their free software?

Those comments are absurd... If your company is being affected by free better performing software and they are forced to lay people off or close its doors, its not Google's fault. It is your company and its lack of innovation in a competitive market...

So your logic is the decrepit philosophy we all heard about in the late 70's and throughout the 80's... Buy American auto's (no matter how bad they suck) because it puts Americans to work... Gimme a break! It is free market enterprise and that means the survival of the fittest... If technology and innovation is passing you by, then step aside and let it or fix the problem... But don't cry its not fair to offer free and improved things to compete... I guess if you had your way, architects would still be using graph paper and other ancient gadgets over CAD...


October 31, 2009 7:31 PM

People are forgetting a major point. How much are they going to charge for unlimited data on the DROID?


November 1, 2009 1:12 AM

@B.D.Kuchera - You're kidding right? Google is a major US company, incorporated in the state of California. Tom Tom is located in the Netherlands and Garmin is incorporated in the Cayman Islands. Navteq, once American, was bought out by Nokia, a Finnish company.

If you want to support American companies and American jobs, look no further than Google.

Stuart Friedman

November 1, 2009 9:38 AM

I think this is a viable phone and it will send Apple back to the drawing board. Nothing fosters development more than a serious competitor.

I think that Apple link with iTunes is a serious advantage that every competitor will have to deal with. Third party links with iTunes are problematic and hacking into iTunes is a "cat and mouse" game.

I think the App Store as a concept is no big deal. It is widely imitated and will probably appear on Droid. The question isn't the store, but the "inventory." How many Droid apps appear that do useful thing. That is necessarily a chicken and the egg problem. The more phones that sell, the more apps that get developed.

Mr. Happy

November 1, 2009 1:31 PM

Is the author a product of Chicago public schools?


November 1, 2009 4:15 PM

Its certainly a threat for iPhone & other smartphones. eagerly waiting for prices from


November 1, 2009 4:27 PM

I have been a user of Palm OS since the mid 90s, and am currently using the Treo 755p. In 1987, I got my first Macintosh computer. I used the Mac for ten years. I left Mac OS when Windows 95 came out because it offered me a similar GUI and a zillon more apps, some of which really did do what I needed and couldn't do with the Mac. With that said, Palm has missed the boat and when I upgrade my phone next time, it won't be a palm product. I have been on the Verizon network since the mid 90s, and AT&T network here still does not have decent data service. iPhones are great as long as you play the game according to Apple, and did that once, and will not do it again. In the last month, I started asking people I met with iphones what they like, the two women said they liked the fact that they could read books on their phone, the third person, a man, said he hated his iphone. Those comments were not enough to sell me on the iphone, and in light of the lousy AT&T network in my area, forget it. I just tried the Blackberry Storm. It was a lousy phone. The concept was great, but it just didn't work very well, lots of missed calls, would be hung up when I went to make a phone call. I talked to one lady whose baby was in health crisis and her Storm would not let her dial 911. Please folks, give us a phone that works. With my next phone purchase, I am looking for a cell phone being supported in 15 years. Google and Mircosoft are the only two OS makers who I believe will be around in 15 of todays lineup. RIM has buried Palm, and I think Google will bury RIM. MSFT will fight it out with google, but in the end, google will be on top. Eventually, Google will program their Android 10 OS to have you come home and sit in front of you 60" widescreen tv and pick up a keyboard from the coffee table and do all of your home computer that way using your Droid as the CPU. In time, Verizon will come up with something like a duel channel phone system, one channel for voice and one channel for data so both can be used at the same time. Apple, Palm, and RIM will not be there for that game. MSFT will try, but will lose out to google. The Droid is the nest step in that direction.


November 1, 2009 6:04 PM

You all are a bunch of crazy geeks who spend too much time on your computers and with tech stuff. Go outside and breath some fresh air, speak to a real person instead of your fellow avatars on World of Warcraft...get a life. Jeez, you people amuse me.


November 1, 2009 10:08 PM

Personally I am looking forward to this offering. The Achilles Heal of the iPhone is the AT&T network. I live in Chicago and was a longtime AT&T user from when they were Cingular. I originally went with Cingular for their GSM mobility in Europe. The AT&T network has degraded to the point where I could no longer get a signal in my home nor in many places in Chicago. A smartphone is a great business tool when it works, and when you work in sales, it need to work. In the end I switched to an HTC CDMA/GSM smartphone on the Verizon network. For me an iPhone would have been a nice gadget, but useless as a smartphone.


November 2, 2009 4:51 AM

Wow the genius bar is not so genius,but then again what do you expect from a bunch of collar popping, frap drinking,
trendy fix gear riders. APPLE has done a few things right like create a new market of idiots to create more simple minded technology. whats wrong apple get lost loading an actual PDA with something more then a song. Seriously spell check this and if u find a glitch then correct it but who cares because apple, the apps, its just an apple. The new DROID will be a breath of fresh air for Apple-less consumers that read into hype and consumer reports. YES I have the Itouch but I also have Verizon and an HP and at the end of the day Im happy to say the PC is built for creative, progressive, and scientific minded individuals that only wish to
push the envelope of programming past horrible apps, oh forgot to mention apple you make a great paper weights!!:)


November 3, 2009 6:56 PM

Just a question . Do think that this phone will controller for the Sonos wireless music system ( like the I phone will )?


November 5, 2009 7:34 PM


Let me just quote two things from your article.

"Seriously spell check this and if u find a glitch then correct it...."

"oh forgot to mention apple you make a great paper weights!!:)"

Enough said.


November 13, 2009 8:42 PM

I don't like being held hostage by apple. I have an IPhone but switched to Verizon for the Droid and I couldn't be happier. Much better phone and the freedom to use it as I please; a ton of free apps; multiple choices for music movies etc. I'm sure with the release of this phone apple will have a Verizon IPhone by next year.


November 17, 2009 12:02 PM

isn't Adobe the real winner?
won't flash 10 run on all mobile platforms?
doesn't that mean whatever piece of hardware you have, it will run any app from anyone in about a year's time? pretty soon, the best device will be the one with the best battery. the one you can drop on the floor and it still works. the one with the screen that allows you to read text comfortably.

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