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Intel to AMD: Gimme 65!

Posted by: Olga Kharif on November 1, 2005

On Nov. 1, Intel announced that its Fab 12, using the newest, 65 nm technology, began shipping in high volume. Fab 12 is the world’s largest chipmaker’s second 65 nm fab to ramp up; the first one that came online recently was a development fab in Oregon.

The announcement is another sign that Intel is playing catch-up to rival AMD and playing better than it’s done before. AMD will likely be a year behind Intel in rolling out this 65 nm technology and, perhaps, it will take even longer to get to mass production.

An interesting tidbit: Bob Baker, who is in charge of Intel’s manufacturing, says Intel might also use these 65 nm plants to produce parts other than the microprocessors. Indeed, Intel already makes Wi-Fi chips, chipsets and memory. Perhaps we will see the company dip into new kinds of chips, too. I wonder what they would be? My bet is, Intel will start making more of the chips that communications chipmakers like Texas Instruments make.

Reader Comments


November 1, 2005 9:58 PM

1. AMD's fab 36 will start out with the 90nm process

2. Intel already has working samples of the 65nm proceses. Various sites such as Anandtech and Tomshardware have had samples for some time now.

3. Intel will release 65nm processors before AMD does. Intel is scheduled to release "Yonah" on January 1, 2006.

4. Intel recently reopened Fab 12 in AZ where it is not able to crank out 12" wafers as opposed to 8" wafers that it used to.

5. Intel is not way behind when it comes to proceses and manufacturing. They started tweaking the 65nm process months ago and has already been working with the 45nm process.

6. Dual core wise, Intel and AMD are not on par. If you are a hardcore gamer, then AMD wins, but if you want general performance, you get Intel. Intel's Pentium D packaging is far from elegant and Yonah, Conroe, Merom with their shared caches should be able to fix that.

Chris Tom

November 2, 2005 1:17 AM

I'm not sure who you have been reading, but dual core Athlon 64 and Opteron win all around benchmarks, not just gaming. The only good thing about the P4 dual is that the lower end ones are cheaper, but you sacrifice system performance, upgrade path, and it will run hotter.

Gonzo Master

November 2, 2005 4:09 AM

It won't take that much before AMD releases 65nm chips in quantity.

Even shinked at 32nm Intel's CPUs run hot, slow and request huge L2 cache for little improvement.

Jeff M

November 2, 2005 8:10 AM

I thought AMD always trailed Intel by about 1 year with it's process.


November 2, 2005 11:54 AM

Intels 65nm samples that have been reviewed are almost even with AMDs current 90nm processors. However, they consume approximately 20% more power and emmit a great deal more heat. This is hurting Intel in several instances such as blade servers and small enclosure Media Center PCs(most currently available use single core 3ghz or less processors). AMD Dual Core X2 processors and DC Opterons have been used in these types of enclosures with great success. AMD is currently testing 65nm samples and they have seen performance increases and thermal decreases that are in line with those they acheived with the 90nm shrink. I fully expect them to release them ahead of schedule.



November 2, 2005 5:35 PM

All these nm-hypes are fanned by Intel - in fact the 65nm has nothing to do with the real size shrinking in the traditional sense (gate-width). This is why 65nm intel-CPU is no better than the 90nm-type in any meaningful ways. Moore's Law has died. Time to bail out IT


November 3, 2005 9:49 AM

But with the new Intel tech (switching to the pentium M architecture) they A. will save energy and B. make more power, if you look at the benchmarks the 2.2Ms with everything else the same usualy beat the 3.2 pentium 4s

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