Web 3.0

Hi Stephen, maybe I'm too 'slow' or cautious but I really think that web 3.0 is way too far in advance and hypish. Web 2.0 - social networking mainly, citizen journalism and etc I get and is POWERFUL but web 3.0....sounds a bit dorky to me...

Ramon Ray - http://www.smallbiztechnology.com

I've always thought of Web 1.0/2.0/3.0 in parallel to Tim Berners-Lee's notion of the read-write web, which is often used as an alternative way of describing Web 2.0.

First, we had Web 1.0 - the read-only web. Then came Web 2.0 - the read-write web - all of these services that make it easy for us to contribute content and interact with others. If you keep up the programming analogy, the next phase would be Web 3.0 - the Read-Write-Execute Web.

Most often, I hear people describing web 3.0 as Web 2.0+ - ie, more of what we have now, but faster and more ubiquitous. It's the same old stuff with lots of superlatives added. A Web 3.0 than plays on the idea of read-write-execute would be having a web that gives people the tools to craft their own tools, their own software, etc, rather than just uploading stuff to other people's software. Why go to YouTube when you can set up your own MyTube, if you will, with the same functionality but tailored to the specific purposes of your blog/community website/etc. People will be able to create their own complex online social media tools with a few clicks, but remain linked to other tools and other people through tagging, rss and all that good stuff.

Anyway, that's just my perspective - I just call it like I see it.

4. In Web 3.0, the web will be programmable. Programmable for everybody! Here programmable does not mean mash-up, does not mean personalization through configuration. Hope to be able to show it by the end of the year.

I think you all wasted your time.

I'm pretty sure web 3.0 will be what web 2.0 is today, but better installed into the mobile generation, which I think, still is yet to come in terms of mobile internet use.

Web 3 has to be every device connected to the internet and seamlessly to itself. Video streamed from a computer to a TV, picture frames that pulls photos from my online flickr account, mirrors that can show RSS feeds in the corner, products recommended by my friends via Crowdstorm.com appearing on my cell phone while in a shop...

In fact - we may even have our own personal agents doing all the work for us...

No web 2.1 bug fixes, gosh, well that was quick.

Just repeating what everyone has mentioned.. it's going to be the programmable web that will really draw the crowd in to participate rather than observe - as we see currently with web2.0. with more user friendly WYSIWYGs and frameworks for rich web apps, the idea of "MyTube" is inevitable. On another note, I would like to see a method of unified online identification where I don't have to remember all my stupid login's and passwords for all the different services I joined (unless I've completely missed that somewhere in history).

Web 3.0 will be Web 3d.0, whereby continued increases in bandwidth and computing power will result in the web being transformed into 3-D spaces. The embers of this are already glowing in applications like second life, but the 3-D paradigm will open up new ways to connect and collaborate on the net.

Web 3.0 would be when the personal computer will be like a terminal. All the applications would be hosted, data would be transfered and searchable in new ways we haven't thought of yet. The search for information is still in it's early stages, event with the search engines like google, yahoo and msn it's still not as effective as it can be. It would be good enough when we can reach the single answer to a question.
I might have skipped a few versions of the web here :)

Web 3.0 may see more integration on the back end, with semantic content, user-driven content and all.

But the interface may be very different as well. Web 3.0 may, in fact, be the tipping point for Web 3D, whatever that turns out to be.

I did a series of CC-licensed articles and interviews with people working to that end: http://www.brownianemotion.org/2006/09/20/web-3d-part-1/

sdsf

Personally, I think that web3.0 will be almost identical to web2.0 except for a couple major changes...

1. It will be more consumer oriented and will draw in more users than most web2.0 websites.

2. It will not be made up of websites where the consumer has to do everything for themselves (write in YOUR blog, upload YOUR videos, upload YOUR photos, find YOUR rss feeds, etc...). Things will be automatic or like Wikipedia where the knowledge of one can benefit many.

I agree with my degree. Web 3.0 will most likely be what web2.0 is today, but geared mored towards mobile users. That said, I don't think we'll see the end of web2.0 for another 5 years or so.

I have been thinking about Web 3.0 recently. In my opinion it will have the following characteristics:
1) Second Life-like: the next-generation Web will permit users not only to produce and share content in the world but also to produce and share content that is confined in virtual worlds;

2) The Semantic Web: an overlay of machine-understandable information that will allow automa to perform reasoning on user's behalf;

3) A global "operating system" where all applications (from personal productivity to enterprise applications) are available on-line.

Web 1.0 = Read Only, static data with simple markup

Web 2.0 = Read/Write, dynamic data through web services

Web 3.0 = Read/Write/Relate, data with structured metadata + managed identity

Some people say that web 2.0 is the network as a OS. By the time of web 3.0 we should have the web behaving more like a single application with many features then an OS with many apps.

I think we are moving too fast - web 2.0 has not fulfilled it's promise for most of the population, as the author states. I would like to see the accessibility and usability fixes of a web 2.1, and web 2.0 isn't really here until our parents are using it.

I guess we need a web 3.0 just because we are running out of words like FRAPPR. But once Web 3.0 can be conceived, it can be surpassed. What would be EVEN BETTER? Perhaps we can skip it and go right to web 4.0!

Fix what's broken in Web 2.0. Voila! Web 3.0.

Web 3.0 will be, I hope, about the new 3 C's.

Containers and
controls for
content.

Here's a part of what Web 3.0 looks like:

www.metabeam.com

Necessary ingredients include: ubiquitous broadband, commoditized petabyte storage, open and flexible standards for software to build the 3 C's (software and content creation will both be even more democratized as editing and post-production tools become cheaper and more powerful). The social/democratic character of web 2.0 will, in effect, be added to the big media colonization that represented web 1.0 to create a world where everyone's a simultaneous consumer and producer of pro-quality media. IF THEY CAN TELL A STORY.

Or not.

DISCOVERY

Right now, we are blindly stumbling around API's and feeds and mostly standardized protocols, mashing things up and devising new purposes for data.

Google, Flickr, Amazon, YahooMaps, del.icio.us, eBay, YouTube

As these data sites mature, and data becomes more generally available to us as standardized feeds, we will have the capability to use rules to add new context and meaning to any information we (or our software) are using.

This could mean filling in incomplete data, repairing bad data, but most intriguing, discovering new data that exactly fits our current context.

I think Andy Carvin hits on some good points. If you look at what's happening now you see the re-emergence of the personal portal and the further splintering of niche communities.

I like the file system analogy, but I'm not sure exactly how this will work out. For a long time the CMS promised to be this one-stop-shop for IT managers and business people to build on a component level. You would be hard pressed to find a ready-made solution to fit your exact needs, which I think is made evident by the large percentage of in-house developed CMS's.

I would like to point to the continued evolution of the semantic web. The widespread adoption of CSS, semantic html and use of XML to describe content has gone hand-in-hand with the explosion of "Web 2.0". I'm not one to guess the future, but if you were to look at how things happened in the past, then I would expect to see more of this not too far from now. The next 5-10 years will be very interesting.

If people don't stop using this useless marketing term: "Web 2.0", let alone plugging a "newer, improved" Web 3.0 term, then the world will probably implode. I don't mind the vague principles people seem to have concerning these topics, but the names are COMPLETELY misleading to consumers, and can only cause trouble.

Web 3.0 will just be an ajaxy way of connecting more and more people in meaningless ways.

I'd rather see social interests be merged with intellectual interests.

www.whatsonmybookshelf.com seems to be doing a good job of this.

Mobile!

Web 3.0 will be on mobile phones. Mobile data access, mobile networking, mobile media, etc.

I'm exploring some of those ideas on my personal website. The idea is content streams and how you navigate through and among them.

check it out.

(http://neurokinetikz.com)

cheers!
-m

i totally agree with andy carvin, btw ;)

Dude,

You had an "assignment" in Monaco to discuss Web 3.0?

What kind of ridiculous half-ass job do you have?

Do you guys really have absolutely nothing useful and productive to do with your time?

Seriously, go and do some volunteer work or something.

Web3.0 will be fast, none of this slow ajax on everything BS. Web2.0 is dial up for broadband. Web 3.0 will be more clean cut.

Gee Stephen,

Don't you think we could finish wrapping our heads around and implementing web 2.0, learning about is standards and methods before you go on jibbering about web 3.0? Gimmie a break.. and a year. As Bob said, I think you are waisting your time.

We're barely seeing the benefits of web 2.0 and the futurists are already holding discussions on web 3.0? I guess the research houses have to have something to predict in order to sell additional reports. That said, w/ the number of always on personalized services coming out that allow users to employ technology at every turn (even the funny / bizarre ones like mobilealibi com), people will demand more and more services tailored to their needs. Bring on Web 3.0!

Please shut up.

This is nonsense. Everyone tries to come up with these buzzwords like "Web 2.0". Yes the web is changing, but each change doesn't need a label to get people excited. The internet is turning toward online software, as well as more social networking.

I wrote on this subject for the Web 2.0 journal:

http://www.web2journal.com/read/236036.htm

Essentially, I agree with andy's comment. 24 online access will allow each person's computer to provide all of the applications that currently require us to use other servers, such as YouTube.

Yehuda

Greetings from Canada!

Thought-provoking article and I think you ought to continuing exploring (with others) the definition, attributes and implications of Web 3.0 for the future.

Excellent!

I have to agree with many of the nay-sayers in the bunch. I really feel you wasted your time. The market will dictate Web 3.0, not a bunch of guys in a conference room at the Holiday Inn.

On the other hand, some of the yay-sayers are on the right track. It will be programmable by everyone, it will be mobile, it will be seamless. The only question is...what will "it" be. As in everything, we are all a horse pulling a cart chasing a carrot dangling from a string. When the market shows us something we like - we will latch onto it.

This committee could never in its wildest dreams have come up with things like MySpace and YouTube 5 and 6 years ago saying: "Hey, what will Web 2.0 be like - lets talk about it".

You guys wasted your time. Sorry.

Thanks for the comments. To the nay-sayers, I really don't feel like I wasted my time. The theme made us think about the future, and I had the chance to be there for an hour with people I considered intelligent and discuss it. If that's a waste of time, most of the rest of my life is, too. Believe it or not, I spent hours and hours this summer thinking and talking about baseball. I don't consider that a waste either. And I spent quite a bit of time trying to learn flowers, say the difference between a dahlia and a zinnia. Don't consider that a waste either. Now that I think about it, I think I'll blog on what constitutes a waste of time...

As far as the guy who says I have a half-assed job... Actually, I don't have any job at all, for the time being. I'm just writing a book.

Yeah... wasting time like in poetry, art, philosophy, ... Not at all nay-sayers! I'm sure someone once said to Eratosthenes that measuring the radius of earth (of a *flat* earth, remember) was a waste of time, or that is was a crazy idea to make an object heavier than air flying, like, pffff, going on the moon... Some people has always been interested in what awaits us. Some people try to imagine the future, providing a vision, ideas, concepts. And very often these thought experiments serves as an inspiration for new ideas, and so on, up to those that are building our very future.

Market is far from being the only thing influencing the future (forget about dictating), there are other forces in actions: passions, utopias, search for power, search for happyness, getting rid of suffering, and so many more - why limiting one's thinking to market forces? So when I see discussions around either web 3.0, marching on Mars, or reaching the stars, I don't see a waste of time. I see people that are providing the necessary dreams and ideas and, like Voltaire said, there is nothing that can stop an idea once its time has come - and time always come. So thanks Stephen for providing these ideas, and don't stop.

The 'Third Web' will be a more responsible and legalistic form of much of the technological ideas expressed in the above comments. Ask Google, what a public company must do when purchasing a revolutionary new web site like YouTube, the first responsible act is to remove material under copy write, the same for the trials of Napster and the other content sharing sites. Remember Google and all other public data compilers connection to China's government, and all other demands that will be required by the U.S. Justice Department and other national governments. Add the legal responsibility for all the empowering economic connections, that 'Third Web' companies will offered that must be legally used. The best investment in the 'Third Web', is in technology that monitors a legal compliant responsible 'Third Web'.

Hey Stephen-
There are a few other things worth considering as potential facets of Web 3.0--
1. gestural and voice computing-with the growing emergence of interaction design, user interface design technology and innovative emphasis software will eventually be operated via gestures of the hand or eye (similar to virtual reality gaming) and voice via certain demands
2. more software embedded in browsers-many new software companies are moving towards the 'always on' model where software operates via a browser and doesn't require any downloading or installation on your desktop or server
3. eventually there will, most likely, be a linkability web app that allows you to use all of your disparate desktop, server, and mobile devices and programs (including telephones, fax, instant messaging, pagers) in a single browser window on your desktop or handheld device
4. you also have to begin to expect the advent of avatar interactions in virtual worlds as a part of social networking and social shopping

I write about a lot of that stuff in a blog I just started at geraldjoseph.typepad.com.

I think the nay-sayers in the bunch, to use Matthew W's (very appropriate) term, miss the point. The point of the conference, and anyone who discusses "Web 3.0" or the "Next Google" or whatever, isn't to dictate the future, or to ignore the problems with the present, i.e. "Web 2.0", but instead to look ahead, foment discussion of where can we go from here. Obviously, Web 2.0 is thriving, but the daydreaming of what is next stirs the creative ideas that may become one of the next Big Ideas that shapes the future of the web. One can draw an analogy to people who were already thinking of ways to improve or utilize airplanes and air travel immediately after the first flight, whole others were working on copying the plane the Wright Brothers built. To say it was a waste of time to have a conference regarding Web 3.0 is to be shortsighted. Web 2.0 didn't emerge until some people stopped playing in Web1.0 long enough to think, what might be next? How can we use this in ways that we aren't right now? Questions lead to innovations, and when we stop questioning, we will grow stale and static. Perhaps it's the Web #.0 jargon that is turning people off, and I can understand that - maybe if the conference had been named Thinking Ahead or something instead of Web3.0, people would not be so quick to bash it. Either way, to those who put forward their own ideas of what the next generation of WWW holds, I think there are many great ideas here - now get to it! ;-)

Being internationally active I see and feel the pulse of the planet much much more than most others. I would like to ask your panel to sympathize with humanity. Please look as closely as possible at the simple second nature of human actions and reactions, while respecting as many possible ergonomic factors as possible. Good luck you need it and a lot more.

Hm..if Web 3.X is the next big thing in Web computing, I'll guess it will be semantic interactions (vs. keywork/keyphrase ala Google) and zillions of personal soft objects that bounce around in netspace where, due to their "gravity" and "membrane characteristics," exchange information and get smarter. Then, they come home when they're called to enrich us with the latest deep relevant deep thoughts from Pokara and beyond.

Problem with 3-D internet, 3-D world, and Venture capital... If venture capitalist decide put alot of money on 3-D internet. It would turn internet chaos, problems, and reality violence.

Have you seen "Grand Thief Auto" video game? What if teen user decide to shoot you on virtual world and steal your CC# and E-bay items. How does that make business world feel?

Google Map on 3-D internet. What if hacker character decide to jump Area 51 virtual world?

Yucks!!! Scary stuff in the future years.

I am not sure it is so complicated. My views on this are covered in a simple post on my blog

http://www.personalizemedia.com/index.php/2006/08/27/virtual-worlds-web-30-and-portable-profiles/

Hey there - If anyone out there is interested in developing something that is moving in the direction of - Read/Write/Relate, data with structured metadata + managed identity and personalization
shoot me an email or call...greg@liveswift.com or call 303-947-9606

we will see what web 3.0 offer us. but also think about the data collectors that profiles us and analyse what we are doing at any time.

Wow! I have so many urls now I had to pause to select which one best represents me here. This is the beginning of the end of web 2.0.

Social networking, user generated content and interaction is now mainstream. The hallmark of web 3.0 will be when you ask a young person what data storage media they utilize and their answer will be, " I have never needed a data storage device, everything I have ever created, captured, used and shared is all stored and accessible via. the "secure" web.

When your "personal web consumption matrix" tells you exactly how many gallons of gasoline you have purchased in you life to date, then you know web 3.0 has arrived.

All interesting comments but the question in my mind isn't around the technology, it's around what is the Web (any web version) accomplishing? For me, it's about communication between people which used to be over the fence in the backyard, then by party-line phones, then by cell phone, computers, on and on. I'm interested in how does this type of communication affect us as humans. Does this help us be better, more loving, open, honest, whatever value you hold, people? Is it just fun (there's value in that as well), or is there more to it? I find it interesting to think about the different levels of connectedness and what that does for us...my grandparents don't embrace the web, my parents do, I do, too but not so much the wikis and blogs (except now, and if there's clear value I can either quantify for my business or to a relationship), but my kids do.

Again, the important thing I look at is how does this help us become better humans. I personally like the ability to access information when and how I want but I don't want too much of that. I don't want it intruding into my personal space, or when I want to be more connected with nature.

I rarely hear this type of thinking in the conferences I attend or when I talk with my friends. I would be interested to see if any of you have these or similar thoughts.

I believe that Web 3.0 will be a quantum leap in solution sharing as each version of the web has been so far.

* Web 1.0 allowed us to share software and files resulting in a fundamental reduction in the duplication of effort during problem solving.

* Web 2.0 services now allow us to share more sophisticated functionality but at a smaller granularity promoting greater reuse of solutions and therefore another drastic reduction in the duplication of effort.

* Web 3.0 will allow us to shunt in human intelligence in a dynamic cooperative manner, with the help of a tightly connected network of personal A.I. assistants, resulting in an explosive improvement in our ability to share solutions and talent.

I cover this in depth in my Web 3.0 blog, especially in my latest post:

http://www.androidtech.com/knowledge-blog/2006/12/web-30-bridge-to-singularity.html

Manual Trackback!
http://www.touchstonelive.com/blog/2006/12/web-30-are-you-serious.html

Web 3.0 should allow people to make real things, assemble real things, and have real experiences and deliver real services. Link the web to more reality in 3.0. Go far beyond 2.0! People will use it and love it. See, http://cba.mit.edu/projects/fablab/ No, it's not the "Food Replicator" on the StarTrek TV series, but it's a good first step in that direction. Go beyond sharing recipes and share meals. Go beyond sharing photos and share reality.- Hadra Saurus

Does anyone else on here foresee the "Minority Report" or "Matrix" feel to some of these responses? I'm all for bring in more consumers and making it easier, leveraging mobile technology, but why does it have to be "web 3.0"? Is it about limiting the initial interaction to just the web? I lean more towards the side of a "portable identity" and being able to take it with you anywhere. Now that's easy for the consumer who can't see the usefulness right away in bookmarking a website and sharing it with friends via some cool widget or web app.

Not exactly sure what it will be, but agree that it will be driven by connecting mobile devices, RFID, and home networking - in other words, new models, applications and services that are derrived from connecting millions of devices that are not yet connected today.

On another front - there is still a great deal of potential for more evolution on the personal publishing side of things.

In my business we help individuals develop the book they have always dreamed of. We see massive potential for improvements in helping the average person to publish their knowledge, experiences and tips for broad consumption.

Jeff

Jeff

As the chairman of the International Consortium for Web 3.0, I urge you to take a look at our website http://www.icw3.org to help answer the question "What is Web 3.0?"

Oh My.. Hans, please tell me that icw3.org is a satirical joke. It's like the coalition for text based internet. Someone has obviously missed the point.

Currently Web 3.0 is an exercise in the virtualization of data abstraction. In essence virtualization is simply the practice of adding an additional layer of interpretation.

So what we have is flat static data (layer 1), which can be interacted with dynamically (layer 2), in a composite environment (layer 3).

IMHO one key component of Web 3.0 will be embracing online operating systems or similar multitasking methods to efficiently organize SaaS (Software as a Service) applications.

Andy Carvin's "Read / Write / Execute" model seems to drive the main point home nicely without getting distracted by all the potential technologies that may eventually be incorporated into this milestone.

Indeed, portability and cross platform access would be a nice feature but the increasing levels of complexity in Web 2.0 evolution have shown this is clearly not the goal- such tasks are best left in the realm of browser detection and graceful degradation.

Web 3.0 is coming. The Web is the User Interface to the Internet. The Internet is not the Web.

They both continue to evolve through the application of creative intelligence by people all over this planet to the interconnection of computing devices and machines (the Internet) and the content that is consumed by a living end-user (via the Web's Browser).

Andy Carvin's comment was the closest when he referenced Tim Berners-Lee's notion of the read-write web. HTML was originally derived from the document mark up language used for technical documentation. This was to enable the display of Content for an end-user to consume (read and view). The point is the Web is about communications, not the technology infrastructure, not the wired or wireless device used to access the infrastructure to enable communications, and not the business opportunities that sprout from the capabilities of modern information technology. Execution will be another Internet component, just as VOIP is and IPv6. The interface to the content that is posted, presented, created, and generated is made humanly available via the Web.

So, if we follow Tim Berners-Lee's notion of the Web as communications, I would propose that the Web 3.0 can be defined via the following logic:

[1] Web 1.0 was about making information, regardless of media, available for push to and pull by individual users.

[2] Web 2.0 is Web 1.0 with the addition of the capability for individual users to push information and media to the Web site.

Therefore,

[3] Web 3.0 will be Web 2.0 with the addition of individuals being able to share as a group and in real time information and media.

Just as game development has evolved to enable massively multiplayer online games (MMOG), the sharing of an environment will allow similar real time communication that the MMOG players enjoy.

Semantic Web is a combination of extrapolated database technology and algorithm based automaton agents. The output of applications built on the Semantic Web will be served through the Internet to the Web Browser, whether that Browser resides on or is built into a mobile phone, a refrigerator, a television set, or a computer.

The Web is all about communications.

Thanks for listening.
Harrison Rose
Silicon Valley

This is a meaningless discussion. Is technology interesting? Yes, if that is what you are into. Does it evolve? Yes, in interesting ways- if you are into that.

Now, consider who is asking this question- a journalist in the case of this blog. Journalists need stuff to write about, they need controversy. And they need to feel relevant and meaningful.

At the end of the day, businesses will do what they always do- solve problems. Ideally in ethical, interesting and profitable ways.

The real question that people should be asking is this- what are the most pressing, unsolved problems in people's lives? Where are they hurting? Where can they be helped? The rest is just self-referential, meaningless drivel.

we will see what web 3.0 offer us. but also think about the data collectors that profiles us and analyse what we are doing at any time.

Web 1.0 was supposed to be what Web 2.0 is turning into now. Remember, connect with others, create dialogs, share files, and so on. The internet made life easier in infinite ways. The vision and technology before the bubble wasn't there, but mostly lacked vision. Right now, we are not there from a business perspective to have the resources to scope Web 3. It's hard enough making the case with-in unamed Fortune 500 companies. It doesn't matter though.
Most sites today aren’t even 2.0 but 1.5…
Web 2.0 makes everything easier with-in the user experience. It's not rocket science. Extrapolate from there...
Web 3 will be vision, technology, and the proper implementation that makes the user experience easier, quicker, better. Whether it's social network or buying travel. Take that to the bank.

many post say were wasting are time or were moving to fast... I VERY MUCH DISAGREE. me as a person i love to see technology evolve every sec of the day.. i like to see what we as people can do and be amazed are selfs and how far we can push and create with current tech. and if someone creates something so powerful and hopefuly easy to use why not go with the flow. i personaly love this idea of having your desktop to be online and have it with you everywhere.
as lead project manager of creating handsets capable of going onlin to a web o/s i just cant wait to see the future and the future is today..

I thought web 3 sounds good, I could follow most of the thinking, when a technology, scrip or language emerges that will enable all electronic content to work from a single platform, then that one interface will do everything.

Imagine,

* tagging at birth
* every piece of information we will ever need during our lives accessed at the blink of an eye
* total control of our live, tracking, timekeeping, spend profile, spare backed-up brain
* health sensing to anticipate when we will need a coffin, ordering it, paying for it and then having it delivered (just in time, of course)
* and then after death a final print out audit trail to give to the vicar

I think I'm off to the pub, it all sounds pretty depressing now I've thought about it.

In my opinion web 3.0 should be a website containing other website so a user dont have to go to other places, a user should can programm his own modules and plugs into the website [read/write/execute]

aren't we a bit too quick on assuming there will be a "3.0". it's too linear thinking imho.

in any case, i've already predicted 3.5: http://monocultured.com/blog/?p=359

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Inventing versions after versions, wheels within wheels, like rats in a maze, hamsters in a cage. Mere simulacra of an infinite reality. Hacked versions of the living life. In the end the better web is Web 0.0. Unplug, my daisies, the wind is fresh, the sun is out, the answer is within not without.

All I have to say is we are already seeing web 2.0 sites. Web 3.0 sites will require sophisticated code. Website Designs nowadays is so advanced and can only advance further when new technology is available. The only people who can pull off this so call sophisticated programming is people with alot of money and brain power. Only these people will allow us to enter in a new realm that happens only in the movies. The rest will follow but will always be a step behind.

Ben

"By the time of web 3.0 we should have the web behaving more like a single application with many features then an OS with many apps."

- This makes the most sense.

Hi;
By the Web 3.0, i guess, it mean making the web understanding the things beyond the simple syntactical levels. That is making the web/web agents understand the things on the semantic levels and hence do somthing useful and relevant for the users of the web. This means that web 3.0 is nothing but it is the Semantic Web only.

so, we can have a following relationship for the evaluation of the web.

Web 1.0 (static HTML pages, read only 1990-1995)--> Web 2.0 (dynamic pages, based on user commands parsed on the syntax basis 1995-2001 todate as well) --> Web 3.0 (dynamic contents based on declarative semantic commmands 2001--todate--onwards very soon)

Oxcyon has been called by some as the Web 3.0 ECM company, incorporating virtualization into a market of leave behind software vendors.
This pervasive (replicated/clone) delivery is exactly what you speak of in your article entitled Web 3.0 of October 24, 2006 on Blogspotting.

This allows for the software to replicate across disparate environments….and each site create able to replicate clones of itself. All of which are updated via a virtual delivery network.
In other words, we update one site weekly, which updates hundreds of disparately hosted servers, and their websites (in the thousands). In this way a very small company (us) can support thousands of end users. This redefines Service Oriented Architecture beyond 'a' network, and takes it across multiple 'disparate' environments.

As we update Centralpoint each week, it updates retroactively everyone in the (non-asp) community….curing development version control, and granting new tools to those that don’t even know they need them yet. Of course, Microsoft and others do this on the scale of an operating system (and arguably not very well)....but Oxcyon is the first and only to do this in the Enterprise Content Management space.

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Cannot Wait to Get to Web X

web3.0 portal is different from web2.0. We have explored that.

Our R&D is going on web4.0

I think web 3.0 will have more centralised data. For example sharing personal details across web applications rather than logging in over and over again.

I like the idea of Web 2.0 for sharing ideas across platforms related to your personal areas of interest, but think it can become a bit of a time-waster after a while. I think a wee backlash may occur where people will start to look to be more efficient with their time on the web so they can go meet with friends/new folks to discuss what they would otherwise blog on about.

Perhaps the next level of the web will include voice commands to launch and type your blog/messages, go to a certain webpage, etc., and immediate live video interactivity. Maybe your web explorer of choice will even categorize and store your 'interests' (like car buying, gardening, web 3.0) for you after each page you visit so you can search what you've read/seen instead of losing it, forgetting where you read it, or manually saving it in 'Favourites'. And, it would be great to be recognized and entered into all sites you've already registered with rather than signing in each time. And more efficient mobility.

The web is highly valuable, but let's use it better and for less time each day!

www.lelnas.com is a good sample of web 2.0

Hey Guys, very interesting subject indeed.

I have a very optimistic / futuristic notion for web 3.0, which as most of the commentors have mentioned, is based on where Web 2.0 have set our expectations to be.

I have written about it here:
http://www.mazenville.com/web-boulevard/insights-for-web-30.html

Would like to hear your feedback.

Cheers.

Interesting subject indeed, I think Web 3.0 is a bit further off. In my opinion it doesn't have to be based on Web 2.0 nor should it be an evolution of 2.0, it should be new and revolutionary.

fine...

For all those who think the discussion of Web 3.0 is not important - Web 3.0, like Web 2.0 is just a name to categorize/group features and functionality for the Web as we live it today. So attempting to analyze Web 3.0 is merely trying to predict the future functionality of the Internet... a topic which I think is extremely important.

Like many have said, I believe Web 3.0 will be more focused around the Semantic Web and the concept of integration multiple applications together to create only centralized data driven app.

I also believe Web 3.0 will bring more automation to our lives. Each website that we interact with will streamline some portion of our lives. I also believe that content distribution will play more of a key role. Today, in Web 2.0 people are more focused on developing content and/or feeding it into their websites/blogs. I believe Web 3.0 will be more focused on deliverying content, in an automated way, in an attempt to integrate with the vastly growing Semantic Web.

I am glad too see that some people are looking beyond 2.0, I personal think it is just a stepping stone not the destination. So in Web 2.0 individuals have created blogs, video wow and much more. Boy, I think that Steve Jobs is thinking about Web 5.0 when he is drinking coffee in the early morning hours of the day. I am only going to talk about Web 2.0 such a small, small step to maximizing the full potentially of the internet. I have been out of the loop for about five years and now everything I was doing back then programming on the internet has now been named, WOW. Not impressed!! This reminds me of doing a contract for a bank like walking up stairs, what happens if you skip a step and land on the 5 step?

Silicon Valley Entrepreneur & Strategy Consultant Sramana Mitra, after receiving reactions and feedback on her definition of Web 3.0, writes a follow-on synthesis explaining why the Semantic Web can only be implemented in a Contextual Domain. Thus, Web 3.0 according to her, is a Verticalized, Contextualized, Personalized Web.
Links: http://sramanamitra.com/blog/1165
http://sramanamitra.com/blog/572
http://sramanamitra.com/blog/775

I believe that web 3.0 is a future for small bussinesses. Database delivered to screen, no programming layer involved, advanced online based content management systems easily integratable with existing databases. Intellegent personalization and massive amounts of data loaded into the DOM of the client.
This is the first(at least to mine knowledge) example of that: http://losru.com

how about just going back to the basics; all these fancy stuff and over-complications don't make us better but trap us into spending more and more time online. Doesn't this sound like certain other channels that we use already (e.g. TV, mobile, etc.)?

I don't mind seeing a simplification of process, in everything we do online; bottom line is that with all the hours that we spent online, we are missing the other important aspects of life.

Now it's time to cut the line go outside and enjoy yourselves :)

This hype is all very well, but I don't think there's much we can be sure about when we're discussing something so vague as the internet. I'd also be interested to hear what people want to do with the web that isn't possible with what we have already.

Anyway, the main problemss with Web 3 would appear to be as follows:
(1) Microsoft are holding everything up. Bernes Lee reckons the Web 3.0 will include SVG everywhere, and yet Internet Explorer is the only browser I know that doesn't support SVG! It's in Firefox/Camino/Seamonkey/Opera/Safari/Konqueror/Amaya/Operwave etc. We'll never get anywhere while most people still use IE.
(2) If we're relying on the general public to create pages, then god help us. Most webpages are littered with markup and/or programming errors, and your average web designer doesn't even know what a title is. So how can we expect pages to be used cross-platform and in different contexts when they don't include accessability and geo information?
(3) As for 3D, the bottom line is that most people aren't spatially-aware enough to control something in 3D. Give most people a VRML plugin for their computer and it takes them a long time to be able to do anything reliably. It's just too confusing for the average consumer.

Anyway, although it's important for us to come up with ideas for the future, the bottom line is that we cannot predict what will happen. As somebody said above, MySpace came out of nowhere. But now that it has, you have thousands of pointless immitators clamoring to get on the hype bandwagon. And as for the name "web 3.0", this will mean even less than the ridiculous "web 2.0"!

can someone can tell me how web3.0 impact to marketers in the future.....thanks a lot

some people take web 3.0 really seriously
rumor is this guys are real
http://www.cubicon.org

hi..
now i know that web3.0 is better than web2.0.web2.0 contain only read/write but web3.0 is contain read/write/execut.

The 'Third Web' will be living documents much like this one, this link on Web 3.0 has remained on the first page of Google search for all of the last year, it needs to be included as relevant. The difference for you will be that your living documents will have a daily presents and can be seen as a daily current in your life that explains issues and informs you of present life events. You may not go into work in an office but into one of your current living documents that give you income, or as here place you in a conversation on Web 3.0.

Web 3.0 simply put is obviously still being defined however bringing content to the customer verses taking them to a web page or integrating video that seamlessly transitions into a website afterviewing it are other ingredients of Web 3.0.

Users simply don’t like to be forced to go somewhere they don’t want to go when it comes to their online experiences. More innovative solutions will bring functionality and services directly to the user enabling them to engage with the communication without being taken away from the need they are currently seeking to fulfill.

Thoughts?

It seems that there is still quite a lot of discussion in elucidating expectations from Web 3.0. For me at the center is the word knowledge and semantic - but in a different context. The problem is the following: How come there is a need for armies of people to implement systems such as enterprise management software. It occurs by business expressing their requirement/knowledge and than it goes through layers of management and translation to eventually programing it (expressing knowledge to computer). We express our knowledge to computers in such low level language/manner that it needs this human translation machine to feed the computer. If one studies the various other proposals at expressing knowledge which are associated with Web 3.0 they are way to technical and low level as well, so in my opinion they will not solve the problem. So, there needs to be a way of expressing oneself/communicating with computer/web etc. that does not have to be translated to: for loops arrays, object etc, but is rather on the more abstract level and closer to the way humans think. So, for me, Web 3.0 is a new way of communicating with Web that involves explicitly specified semantic/knowledge that is machine processable. This will result in us being able to share knowledge rather than texts. On line desktop etc are more manners of delivery (on site/on line).

Our company Orfeo has been working on this form of expression for last 9 years and we are about to go live with an enterprise management/process exchange offerings based on deep semantic knowledge expression. It's domain will be ThoughtExpress.Com.

Pawel Lubczonok

web is web as communication tool and like phone it starts from very basic (voice) and will move on to very advance (video, fax, etc) - and you can name it 1.0 to 2.0 to 3.0 and so on!

Web 3.0 for me should be-(web 2.0 + new and advance applications)-web 2.0 glitches

Web 2.0 has shown the possibilities of user-contributed content in shopping and entertainment, with eBay and Facebook.

So what is this mystical thing called Web 3.0? Web 3.0 is about ideas and knowledge, about gaining understanding through collaboration quickly. Web 3.0 goes beyond search-terms, where Google often returns a whole bunch of garbage, because it can’t read our minds.

What Will Web 3.0 Look Like?

Different words have different meaning to different people. Different people are identified by different demographics. There’s no need for the machine to understand all that meaning stuff. As long as people understand, and communicate with the smallest possible unit of related meaning. Which is the question and answer.

The next generation of the web will make use of what we like, what we know, and what we’ve done, to give us what we need. Based on our recent search history. Based on our demographics. Based on our ratings, questions and answers.

Try http://helpglobe.com, and you'll see where Web 3.0 is going.

A great debate: Web 3.0 is a world some are certainly yearning for (okay, only *some* of us!). But let’s take a cautious helathcheck on those optimistic timescales.

Other academics see a different Web 3.0 though, one that fuses online and offline experiences and data into an augmented reality. Joel de Rosnay has been posturing this in a big way - www.digitalstrategyconsulting.com/thoughtleaders/2007/07/joel_de_rosnay.html - and the differences, though subtle, are more than surface deep. For Rosnay, Web 3.0 could mean dropping down the visor and watching the data flow over the lens; if that sounds a little too sci-fi, then how about packets of traffic and weather data floating gently from the chips in your windscreen? Look at it like that and it starts to feel more comfortable…

Whichever way you read it, Web 3.0 will be taking us a lot further towards the novels of William Gibson and further away from the years of keyboards and mice we’ve all endured while growing up. Bring it on!

We dare to say this is next web 3.0:
http://reader.macrostandard.com/

I think web 3.0 is a mashup website where users can read everything and store offline information.

Web 3.0 is sometimes called Semantic Web, a term coined by Tim Berners Lee, the man who first invented www.

Web 2.0 came to describe almost any site, service, or technology that promoted sharing and collaboration right down to the Net’s grassroots as in blogs and wikis, tags and RSS feeds, del.icio.us and Flickr, My Space and You Tube. Web 3.0 will have 4 main features like a Semantic Web where a machine or robot can read a website or check our daily schedules; 3D Web-a virtual walk through unfamilier places without leaving one’s own seat; Media-centric searches understanding natural-lauguage queries or photos, and the Pervasive Web that’s everywhere-on your PC, on your cellphone, on your cloths, jewelry, your kitchen, bathroom and office. Microsoft and Google are moving to 3D. www.polarrose.com, www.riya.com, www.like.com are offering simple prototypes. Web 3.0 is here for sure. But it has to be experienced.

Despite the arguments on whichever side of this issue, this blog represents what is great about blogging. a meaningful dialog that began in October '06 and continues today.

The semantic web is an viable achievement, and I am looking forward to Web 4.0 whenever it shows up. Naysayers have always attacked change. Ask Socrates. Ask Descartes. Ask Einstein.

Thanks for all of the reference sites.

You'll know its Web 3.0 when Google has to buy its competitor to stay in the Game.

The same way you know its 2.0 when Microsoft had to buy Yahoo!

John

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As what others have said, I too believe that Web 3.0 would be Semantic Web, but I really hope "they" won't exaggerate it to the point that we are looking at "Web 2.0 Plus" which would be another mere web mining or content aggregation with much hype and cosmetic. What I really hope to see in Web 3.0 technology is that it should be able to have more Inferencing capability and solve problems with simplicity which would extend the web usage to mobile platform.

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