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A Different Take on Copyright Battles (YouTube v. the World)

Posted by: Heather Green on June 29

Yesterday, I met with the Fritz Grobe and Stephen Voltz, the masterminds behind the exploding Mentos and Diet Coke video that recently swept the land. These two creative types, part of a troupe that puts together a very popular monthly theater show in Maine, hit on the idea of making a video about 8 months ago.

And hearing about how they planned it and how much it could mean to them was inspiring. So far, they have had about 4.1 million views and made around $25,000 through an ad revenue sharing deal with online video service Revver.

But that’s not what they came in to talk to me about. They wanted to talk about copyright abuse and how quickly bootleg copies of their work ended up on YouTube and Google, where they couldn’t make money from it. Though Revver didn’t pay for Fritz and Stephen’s trip (The Late Show with Letterman did), the company did spring for pr people to take them around.

They had an interesting point. Though YouTube and Google responded to their demands, they had a learning curve to go through on how to do it and had to find each instance of when copies were reloaded after being taken down. When fame is fast and fleeting, the time it takes to learn about the processes for taking copies down can prove fatal.

But the whole meeting brings up a new situation: When it comes to this next phase of content (the post music phase) are we in for a new kind of discussion. Will the upstarts gunning to make money (and help artists make money) be the ones behind the debates over copyright? Joining in with the big guys.

I know from my reporting around YouTube that when it comes to questioning their model and how they handle illegal use of copyrighted works, the startup competitors are actually more vocal than the networks have been in condemning the actions of video sharing rivals.

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Reader Comments

Kare Anderson

June 29, 2006 01:47 PM

As a fan of Revver (offering content creators something rather than nothing for their work) I'll bet Revver saw this battle coming when they launched, and anticipated that it will be a long slog/battle that would require wider awareness and understanding of the copyright issue - and their business.

Savvy move: Using a specific example does help personalize and dramatize both the copyright issue - and their business.

And, in this ever more transparent world the story you described also turns up another shocking (to me) detail: for 4.1 million views they ONLY made a measly "around $25,000."

I hope R. grow and can provider a better split of profits over time

csven

June 29, 2006 02:20 PM

Up until recently few people have had a reason to even understand IP laws. They've worked for corporations their whole lives and everything they've created has gone to the corporate treasure chest. But now, when both global economics/offshoring threatens them and new distribution models are available so they can pursue other options, they're going to find that the P2P filesharing mindset they've been championing for the past few years is going to limit their opportunities. And for every reformed music/movie/software pirate who had previously decided that the licensing (some of it unarguably distorted by corporate-influenced changes to the laws) just didn't work for him/her but is now maybe not such a bad thing after all, there will be two more people who prefer to simply take instead of compensating the creator; those activities will start impacting the little guy in a much bigger way.

There will be new business models, but adjusting to them won't be easy... as you're basically saying in this post. What affects corporations adversely also affects small business and many entrepreneurs. Perhaps renewed interest in protecting the rights that belong not just to corporations but to individuals will galvanize some support for the changes that should be implemented. We'll see. But I think we may see nothing more than a shifting of viewpoints for those who adjust to economic circumstance and come to realize what capitalism is.

schadenfreudisch

June 30, 2006 10:30 AM

i feel like i came late to this party. you mean to tell me that i can do some crazy gag, video tape it, digitize it, put it on the internets, copywrite it, and make MONEY? wowow!

Andrew

October 11, 2006 01:22 PM

Opening the channels of distrubution can only be a good thing for everyone (except, of course, those who had a stranglehold on those channels to date.) The distribution of video is no different from music. Why can't the artist be compensated by a scheme similar to ASCAP? Then distribution goes to whoever comes up with the most creative ways to promote; the channels are already in place.

Zach

January 8, 2009 09:22 AM

So whats the deal here?? I didn't read the blog

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