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Apple To FCC: We're Still Studying Google Voice App

Posted by: Arik Hesseldahl on August 21, 2009

Apple, Google and AT&T today all replied to letters they received from the Federal Communications Commission sent on July 31 regarding what’s been widely described as a rejection of an iPhone application that works with Google Voice, Google’s call-management and voice mail service.

In a five-page letter Apple responds point-by-point to the FCC’s questions. Here are some highlights:

Asked why Apple rejected the Google Voice application for iPhone, Apple says it hasn’t, and “continues to study” it:

“Contrary to published reports, Apple has not rejected the Google Voice application, and continues to study it. The application has not been approved because, as submitted for review, it appears to alter the iPhone’s distinctive user experience by replacing the iPhone’s core mobile telephone functionality and API user interface with its own user interface for telephone calls, text messaging and voicemail. … The Google Voice application replaces Apple’s Visual Voicemail by routing calls through a separate Google Voice telephone number that stores any voicemail, preventing voicemail from stored on the phone, i.e., disabling Apple’s Visual Voicemail….These factors present several new issues and questions to us that we are still pondering at this time.”

Apple goes on to say, that Google is free to provide access to Google Voice via the iPhones Safari Web browser just as it does for PCs.

Asked if it acted alone or in consultation with AT&T, Apple says it has acted alone, and “has not consulted with AT&T about whether or not to approve the Google Voice application.” It further says there’s nothing in the contracts governing their relationship that affects Apple’s reasoning in the matter.

Asked if AT&T has any role in approving applications that appear in the App store generally, Apple says it alone decides which apps make it into the store. However, “..There is a provision in Apple’s agreement with AT&T that obligates Apple not to include functionality in any Apple iPhone that enables a customer to AT&T’s cellular network service to originate or terminate a VOIP session without obtaining AT&Ts permission.” That explains, among other things, why Skype calls on an iPhone can only be connected via Wi-Fi. Apple further says that from time to AT&T “has expressed concerns regarding network efficiency and potential network congestion associated with certain applications.”

Asked about other applications that Apple has rejected, and the reasons why, Apple says it has approved more than 65,000 applications, and has rejected apps for a variety of reasons. “Most rejections are based on the application containing quality issues or software bugs, while other rejections involve protecting consumer privacy, safeguarding children from inappropriate content, and avoiding applications that degrade the core experience of the iPhone.” Most of the review process, it says, is consumed with quality issues and software bugs, and providing feedback to developers so those problems can be fixed. Once fixed, those applications are approved, the letter says.

Apple then goes on to list a few applications that have been rejected: Twittelator was rejected initially because it crashed during loading. iLoveWiFi! was rejected because it used “undocumented application protocols,” and has not been resubmitted since. SlingPlayer Mobile was rejected initially because of a provision in the AT&T customer terms of service agreement that prohibits redirecting a TV signal to the phone. As with Skype, the app now works only via Wi-Fi and has since been approved. Another app was rejected because it displayed nudity and sexually explicit content.

Finally it says that 95% of applications are approved within 14 days of initial submission.

Google and AT&T responded to their respective letters as well. Highlights from those, and links to the originals after the jump.

In its 12-page response, AT&T says it had "no role in any decision by Apple to not accept the Google Voice application for inclusion in the Apple App Store. AT&T was not asked about the matter by Apple at any time, nor did it offer any view one way or the other," it says.

AT&T goes on to add further color about the kinds of iPhone applications about which it expresses concerns to Apple. Examples: Pandora and AOL's streaming radio application. "AT&T and Apple discussed streaming audio iPhone applications proposed by Pandora and AOL and, in particular, the potential congestion that these applications may cause on AT&T’s 3G network. After these applications were included in the Apple App Store, Apple upgraded the technology used to stream these services in order to further optimize usage on the network."

Another that caused a concern was one from MobiTV and CBS that was to stream video of the NCAA Basketball tournament over both Wi-Fi and AT&T's 3G network. AT&T was concerned that the app might cause network degradations, especially at cell sites neat college campuses at schools whose teams were playing in the tournament. "Apple conveyed these concerns to MobiTV and CBS, who modified their application to deliver live video, audio and scores over Wi-Fi, while delivering live audio, still photos and scores over AT&T’s 3G network," AT&T says.

AT&T goes on to defend its stance against VOIP applications running on its 3G network. Having both invested "substantial capital and other resources" to bring the iPhone to market, "...both parties required assurances that the revenues from the AT&T voice plans available to iPhone customers would not be reduced by enabling VoIP calling functionality on the iPhone. Thus, AT&T and Apple agreed that Apple would not take affirmative steps to enable an iPhone to use AT&T’s wireless service to make VoIP calls." It goes on to say that it provides iPhone customers with "the largest subsidy AT&T has ever provided on a wireless handset, on both a per-unit and aggregate basis."

Google's letter, is six pages long, and potentially more interesting, but the best part is confidential. Its entire response to question two, which covers what explanation if Google was given for the rejection of the Google Voice application, is redacted.

Asked to compare its application rejection process for the Android marketplace to that of the iPhone app store, Google say it relies mostly upon the Android market community to flag applications that don't abide by its policies and standards. Once has app has been flagged enough times, it can be removed after a review by Google staff. It says about 1% of submitted applications are removed in this way.

Here's links to the original letters via Scribd:

Apple's response to the FCC

AT&T's response to the FCC

Google's Response to the FCC

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Reader Comments

Doug

August 21, 2009 07:27 PM

The writer and/or editors should take a look at this article. There are numerous spelling and grammar errors.

Andrew

August 21, 2009 08:27 PM

"Most of the review process, it says, is consumed with quality issues and software bugs, and providing feedback to developers so those problems can be fixed. Once fixed, those applications are approved, the leter says."

I think the spelling may be a parody of Apple's review process - thus the one t in letter.

Des

August 21, 2009 09:38 PM

Lying to the FCC, not cool.

Why remove GV Mobile and GV Mobile Free from the App store Apple?
Many people were using these applications, and more wanted the Official Google App.

Who made the decision to pull the GV Mobile Apps, and lets see their emails through your chain of command. Your behaviour was clearly anti-competitive.

Yoda

August 21, 2009 11:38 PM

Uh...spell check?? Seriously - WTF? Is this the quality of reporting that Business Week feels is acceptable???

kuei

August 22, 2009 12:09 AM

"The writer and/or editors should take a look at this article. There are numerous spelling and grammar errors."......
ask for a refund

kuei

August 22, 2009 12:12 AM

"The writer and/or editors should take a look at this article. There are numerous spelling and grammar errors."....

ask for a refund

Shirley

August 22, 2009 01:58 AM

Agrees with Yoda.

"Uh...spell check?? Seriously - WTF? Is this the quality of reporting that Business Week feels is acceptable???"

tom h.

August 22, 2009 02:08 AM

Calm down. These are blog posts, not formal articles subject to BW editing standards.

Toney

August 22, 2009 04:49 AM

I second that Doug. My God, I felt like I was reading a teenagers article that had no editorial oversight.

Removing stuff people actually want. Sounds like big business to me, in most cases anyway. That's when the ones at the top aren't in touch with what the consumers really want.

Rohit

August 22, 2009 10:16 AM

A comic take on APPLE, AT&T and FCC issue! http://tinyurl.com/comicappleattandfcc

Bob Jones

August 22, 2009 02:32 PM

Why is Google's answer to Question 2 redacted? Once again ... how does one defend him/herself when you don't have the information your accused with. Sounds like Google is getting their money back from the Obama campaign donations.

Senta

August 23, 2009 06:27 PM

Looks like AAPL is in full retreat! Expect the white flag soon.

Nick

August 24, 2009 04:36 AM

The redacted information contains "commercial data" which "would be customarily guarded from competitors.

I don't blame them for wanting to make it confidential. Their technology is intellectual property, which they don't want to be exposed to unnecessary people.

Chuck Gaffney

August 24, 2009 05:27 PM

For the people who have too much time on their hands asking for grammar and spell checks, go back into your holes quietly or better yet, abide by the old saying "go suck a railroad spike". Oops, was my comment not grammatically correct for the grammar pig police? Anyways, after seeing this response from Apple, they actually do seem to have a leg to stand on despite mine and other iPhone users strong hatred toward the seemingly pointless app rejections.

TX.Toast

August 26, 2009 06:32 PM

Seriously these guys at Apple and AT&T need to get over themselves. As for AT&T, I get it, I see how they would feel threatened by this but let’s get real AT&T told me that they had no intents to limit Google Voice on their network and that I could always Jailbreak my phone a run any app that I would like regardless of what apple said. This is all about apple being apple. There are droves of fan boys out there that will disagree but the reality is that apple does not have our interest at heart when they do things like this, it all about apple all the time.
"Contrary to published reports, Apple has not rejected the Google Voice application, and continues to study it. The application has not been approved because, as submitted for review, it appears to alter the iPhone's distinctive user experience by replacing the iPhone's core mobile telephone functionality and Apple user interface with its own user interface for telephone calls, text messaging and voicemail,"
Who cares!! It is none of apples business what I do with my hardware even if it does the same thing the phone does natively. I have two stock apps on the phone Apples and Bloomberg I don’t see the difference. This is my device, the fact that I am branded as a “terrorist” if I jail break my iphone is appalling. Apple and their lawyers need to recognize that it is there myopia that is keeping apples market share in the teens. As a share holder and apple user I wish they would pull the heads out of Steve’s ass.
I use Google voice (Grand Central) for business, it is a fantastic technology. It gives me the ability to keep my company small and mobile and at the same time have the feel and scalability of a large organization. The ability to control access to my phones to a person or a group is critical for my organization and frankly my sanity. Transcripts of Voice mail is not only a huge time saver but always adds a little humor to the day, computer sometime make the translation read like my own crazy personal Mad Libs. If you don’t have Google voice and want to see Google Voice in action call this number and yell at their Google Voice Mail. www.gvrants.com (408) 372-6871) they will but it on their site for you to read and hear.
I don’t much faith in the Gov. Frankly I feel there job is to make people’s lives harder but if the FCC can do something to getting apple to give me Google voice on my iPhone I may just show up at my local town hall meeting about health care.

K.

March 23, 2010 11:20 AM


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