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November 10, 2006

India and "creative chaos"

Steve Hamm

It's impossible to think about India without thinking about China--and vise versa. And the contrast is sharp. China is an orderly, top-down, plan-oriented state with plenty of capitalist drive but not a lot of creativity. The infrastructure in its big cities is first rate. But, of course, it's not democratic. India's an unruly democracy--with government as chaotic as its traffic. Which system will win? China clearly has the early lead, but I wouldn't write India off. The concept of creative chaos is one reason. This language was introduced to me a couple of days ago by Leo Apotheker, head of worldwide sales and marketing for German software giant SAP. He visits India 4-5 times per year and has noticed that the top Indian entrepreneurs he meets look at business problems and opportunities differently than a lot of Western leaders--and they come up with strategies that knock the established global business players off balance. They think this way because they have to be creative to overcome the chaotic business and political environment in India. "I think that long term India will outperform China," he told me. "They have a culture of chaos. A culture of chaos and a strong education system, together, are more important than infrastructure."

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Steve:

As a journalist, you are a classless troll. What do you want to achieve by constantly quoting some meaningless conversation like a Chinese coder?? brag after a few beers that Chinese coders are than Indian?? coder other than try to solicit fight between Indian and Chinese? What do you want to prove by using some SAP sale man?? comment that chaotic Indian system is better (perhaps a sale man to be laid off soon) other than try to stir some hard feeling between Chinese and Indian?

We are not sure whether India will catch up China. Honestly, we do not care. What we care is that when India catches China, China is already close to US or has already caught up US.

Posted by: clearmind at November 10, 2006 07:14 PM

You need to be a bit more careful Steve,

in making predictions that India will do just fine despite its wretched infrastructure. You just might get India's "most honorable" politicians (with the exception of the PM and the Fin. Minister, we all know just how "honorable" the rest are) thinking that they don't have to do anything at all about the infrastructure -- "Steve Hamm says with all our creative chaos, we'll be fine" will become their new excuse. In fact, they just might become even more creative about creating even more chaos than we have now, or would ever be able to cope with.

Posted by: Just_a_minute at November 12, 2006 05:36 AM

As a betting man, I would place my money on China.

Think outside the box, is my motto.

India has too many problems to really pull herself ahead.

Posted by: NoWorriesBeHappy at November 12, 2006 06:09 PM

I feel that China is good in the long run, I feel it may feel ; the growth is too explosive and importantly, the currency is pegged. Add to that Govt. subsidies for many businesses.

Let it become capitalist & I feel the country is going down.

India, infrastructure is horrible, bureaucracy & corruption is horrible., but it is on the road to recovery. Our PM, Prez, and FM are amazing people with long term views.

Plus our entrepreneurial acumen is formidable.

Many may not know, but apart from IT and ITES, financial services, pharma companies are coming up fast. Many companies are also going global.

Posted by: Tirath Muchhala at November 15, 2006 09:38 AM

I completely agree with Steve, hey i will put my money on India and not China...China is not a Democracy and to top it all China also has its own big problems..any Multinational that wants its own technology to be build at a certain level...India is one of the most cost-competitive economy in the world...of course China is too..but there is a lot of difference between these two countries and hence incomparable..

Posted by: Vishal Shah at December 21, 2006 08:29 PM

Tirath Muchhala Said

"Our PM, Prez, and FM are amazing people with long term views."

Ha Ha Ha ....... Good Joke

Posted by: lal at December 28, 2006 12:44 PM

Hope I can put this into a few words. I think that "globalization" is an artifice. It exists in the same way that JIT theories gave rise to FedEx. If the US "consumer" economy did not exist "globalization" would not have happened. If the US had not elected people like Reagan and G W Bush then the US economy would probably continue to be the vibrant center of Western science and technology that it was from the 1930's right up until the 1980's. Articles like this one simply state obvious conditions as though they are revealing a hidden truth. Once the US economy is dead the "globalization" movement will die with it. In a nutshell we are witnessing the bizarre phonemonon of "capitalist" economists working for the Heritiage Foundation and the American Enterprise Institute justifying Communist governments in China and Vietnam as the employment models for US workers. As for India employment standards that are roughly the same as those in the US prior to the election of Teddy Roosevelt prevail.

As for corruption ..

This is a really interesting time that we live in.

Posted by: David at January 1, 2007 07:57 PM

"Creative Chaos"? where did you come up with this stuff. Is this what America has been reduced to? inventing fancy, catchy phrases that mean absolutely nothing? Yeah, that's very creative. This is why America is in such sad state of affairs economically. Everybody is busy inventing buzz words to grab some attention. Nobody is doing anything to real and concrete. I guess India is a perfect match for the US as a business partner.

Posted by: HC at January 4, 2007 01:14 AM


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