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August 17, 2005

WNBA Is A League of Their Own...And Mine Now.

David Kiley

Last night I finally went to a WNBA game, the New York Liberty vs. The Washington Mystics. Like a lot of middle-aged men, I tend to be a sports snob. I’m not much interested in watching ladies golf, for example. And I have to have a personal connection to a player in a softball game in order to watch it. But the WNBA strikes me as a great product that just needs a bit more marketing help to drive more dollars into the sport.

The quality of play was much better than I expected. And if the play isn’t good, then nothing else much matters. Then, there is the price. It was $10 for a very good seat. Best bargain in town for a two-and-a-half hour game. The beer I had before the game cost half that much. Even the concessions at the game, which was at Madison Square Garden, were priced down. One dollar for popcorn or a bag of gummy bears. The beer was still more than $6.00—robbery, but I suspect that is a condition of the beer distribution deal for the arena.

The atmosphere of the game is a big selling point. The crowd is largely families and couples. There are rabid fans attending, but language is clean and I saw no evidence of overdoing the beer concession. In fact, most of the people in the stands seemed to have a notion that they were in on something that the rest of the city wasn’t. Crowd boosters shot tightly rolled up tee-shirts into the crowd with a compressed air bazooka. The kids loved the free stuff. Who doesn’t?

The players, unlike their male counterparts, tend to be charming and funny. On the jumbo-tron, one player was trying to read a promotion spot for a future game and the spot went for about two or three minutes as we were shown take after take of the player stumbling over the ad copy and laughing at herself. I’m not sure many male primadonna NBA players would allow themselves to be seen messing up a promo spot.

The players, according to the WNBA, make an average of $55,000 a year for a four month season, with the top players getting about $89,000 a year. Attendance for games is about 8,000-9,000 per game, though clearly there are tickets being given away to kids groups. Two million fans will have attended WNBA games when the regular season ends this week, the 7th consecutive season that they have topped the two-million level.

The whole game experience has a bit of “A League of Their Own” feeling and that is a good thing, especially for families trying to find common ground to share between parents and children. While most of the families I saw at the game included a daughter, I saw a few where a son was the only child in tow. And in fact, my takeaway was that it would be a terrific and nicely affordable game to take my son when he is a little older. If he shows interest in basketball, a WNBA game will be a much better game to attend, compared with a men’s game, for learning the merits of passing the ball. Indeed, watching the ladies was a trip down memory lane to the 1970s for me when I was much more interested in watching basketball. That’s when teams ran actual plays, players passed a lot, set each other up, set picks and didn’t rely as much on the dunk as they do today. Oh…and I think the popcorn was about a buck back then too.

There isn’t much advertising for WNBA games that I have seen. And, in fact, I find that it doesn’t watch very well on TV. The best marketing the league can get is driving people to the games anyway they can. Having gone to one game, all my preconceived ideas about how the game wouldn’t measure up to the standards of the men’s game were shattered. All things considered, it was more fun than the men’s game. I’m going again for sure. Meantime, I still have no interest in paying the fancy prices for a Knicks game. If I want to see that much dunking--the most boring play in basketball--I can go hang out in a donut shop.

You go Girls!! Like Arnold says..."I'll be back."

04:36 PM

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Dear Mr. Kiley:

Thank you so much for taking the time to write about the WNBA. As a season ticket holder, I could not agree with you more...the marketing needs to be a lot better. But you summed up why many of us are diehard WNBA fans...and yes, we want to let people in on the secret.

Again, thank you for your great article.

- Barry Uhrman

Posted by: Barry at August 17, 2005 05:43 PM

David,

Great article. I'm a normal guy and I've love'd the "W" since it started.

Posted by: Richard at August 17, 2005 06:12 PM

Great article on the WNBA !!! I loved it, thanks !!

Posted by: Bernice Hall at August 17, 2005 06:15 PM

Thanks For that GREAT article I also LOVE wnba!

Posted by: JMamie at August 17, 2005 06:58 PM

Nice to see you finally figured out what us WNBA fans have known for a long time women's Bball is where the best Bball is! Men dunking is BORING! You are right that they need to advertise more, get the women making more appearences, but unfortunately because they make so little money they have to leave right after playoff to go overseas and play where they make triple the amount. Now get your son started early, your friends to go and maybe sometime in the near future the WNBA will not only fill the stands, but they will make enough money that they don't have to disappear overseas right after playoffs end! Here is to long future of the WNBA!

Posted by: LakotaStorm at August 17, 2005 07:50 PM

I'm glad you enjoyed the game. Thank you so much for the positive press; the league needs it.

Posted by: tee at August 18, 2005 08:20 AM

Thank you so much for a positive article. So many are negative, by people that have never seen a game.

Posted by: Carol at August 18, 2005 10:54 AM

I so enjoyed reading this article. As an avid fan of the WNBA, it has truly frustrated me that they haven't gotten the recognition that they so rightly deserve due to most people's preconceptions & their not having had the opportunity to see many games on tv. I look forward to seeing many more converts like yourself Mr. Kiley but most of all, I look forward to being able to view more games on tv.

Posted by: Audrey Rice-Elliott at August 18, 2005 11:47 AM

Thank you for writing such a wonderful article about the WNBA. I'm happy that you attended and enjoyed the experience. I too wish the marketing was better in order to draw more people to the games. But right now it seems to be the love for the sport and word of mouth that peaks the interest of the crowd.

Thank you and keep enjoying,

Julie

Posted by: Julie at August 18, 2005 01:04 PM

As a Liberty season ticket holder for years, I have to tell you that I was prepared to get angry when I saw your article lead in on the WNBA site. How pleasantly surprised I was to see the male press finally come around to what we WNBA die hards have known all along... IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE TRUE GAME OF BASKETBALL PLAYED - GO TO A WNBA GAME!!! It's a travesty that the women are poorly paid and that many have to get a job in the off-season to make ends meet. Think about it: A rookie's salary is less than the price of an NBA player's gaudy gold necklace. The league needs to get smarter and do a better job at putting itself out there. I hope that Donna and company are reading the press (like yours), start listening to the fan base, and do something to make some changes! Keep Coming Back!

Posted by: Jennifer at August 18, 2005 03:29 PM

Thanks for writing such a great article about the WNBA. I'm glad that more people are starting to realize what the WNBA has to offer and not to mention the GREAT basketball these ladies play. My opinion is that the Womens game is so much more entertaining than the mens game. I've been a season ticket holder for the Seattle Storm ever since the team started playing in 1999 and Ive seen the attendance go from 1,000 people per game and a 6-28 season to a 9,000 - 10,000 crowd and now were the defending WNBA Champions and only in 5 years, at the WNBA finals we had a sold out crowd of over 18,000. Im just finally glad that people are getting to realize and experience such a great game that Ive known and loved for such a long time.

Posted by: Arianna at August 18, 2005 03:29 PM

Thank you for the great article. I am a 51 yr old man that LOVES the WNBA!! Glad the secret is getting out.

Posted by: Jeff at August 18, 2005 03:34 PM

Thanks for the article!! I think if more people

would give the WNBA a chance, they would feel the

same way that you do. I agree there needs to be

better marketing and more televised games for

little girls to see. These ladies are great

role models which is more than I can say for most

guys in the NBA. Thanks again!

Posted by: Pam at August 18, 2005 04:33 PM

I am from indianapolis where we have a WNBA team and I came to college in Colorado. What do I miss most the WNBA games I would attend with my friends. For about the same price as a movie I could see great athletes playing with heart and putting on a fantastic show. When my dad asks me what I miss most about home, it is without a doubt the Indiana Fever. There are no steroids, no holdouts, no self proclaimed Gods of the Game just classy family friendly athletes. Now if only I could get some more games televised . . .

Posted by: Adam at August 18, 2005 04:36 PM

I love WNBA as well, but don't forget about its feeder programs in the college ranks where the women's game is also very exciting. The top teams are increasing, hopefully allowing the WNBA to increase its membership as well as bring more advertising and stars for the females. I have been several WNBA games as well as women's college games.

I do disagree in that the television are good as well. The games could be shot better with more cameras!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the great article.

Posted by: LJ at August 18, 2005 05:23 PM

Thank you so much for writing your article about the WNBA. As you now know, most WNBA fans are basketball purists and enthusiasts, MALE AND FEMALE. We haven't falling victim to thinking that the only way its basketball is if you can dunk or can shake and bake it like you're on an "And 1" video. Basketball is about jumpshots and high free throw percentages, its about proper screens, pick and rolls, quality zones, using the backboard...so MANY things that they NBA so flagrantly fails to do. We're not trying to BE the NBA or be COMPARED to men...because its apples and oranges, no, its about a love for basketball in its truest form.

Thank you sir, you're more man than most would dare to dream. Thanks.

Posted by: mztay at August 18, 2005 06:25 PM

I have been a fan of the WNBA since it started (what 9 years ago now?) And I love it, I don't watch NBA games anymore. The players in the WNBA use fundamentals, only a few dunks have ever been made and these ladies PLAY DEFENSE!! Something that is missing in the Men's game. Also, until a year or so ago free agency wasn't around, so team loyalty was high in the league. I think it still is, but at these salaries, you don't see people leaving their team for higher contracts. This makes the teams closer in ability. All in all, i think it is a better league than the NBA

Posted by: Bob at August 18, 2005 07:04 PM

Amen, brother. It's the best bang for your buck in professional sports.

Posted by: Trish at August 18, 2005 07:07 PM

i just what to say thank you for the positive article. i play basketball and i have been a fan of the wnba since it began. it is my dream to one day play basketball in the wnba. hopefully as the years go by the wnba's fanbase will grow exponentially. people like you who take the time to watch the games and spread the word will contribute to that.

again i thank you,

Rose

Posted by: rose at August 18, 2005 07:10 PM

Great Article! I'm a huge WNBA fan, and I live in Wisconsin, so I never get to see any games live. I, like everyone else wish the marketing and promotion of the game would be stronger and more visible in the country. I tell all my friends and family these women are such better role models for kids than the NBA players. It's a great game, and I hope it's around for years to come. Go Liberty!

Posted by: Jeff at August 18, 2005 07:35 PM

Mr Kiley thank you , i have been a wnba fan since cynthia cooper was playing. i think the thing the wnba needs is for its players to be more marketable , we need more flashy players like taurasi,bird. The wnba has many great players like K.Smith , Cathings but they are not very marketable. And that i think is the main problem . But thanx again for a very nice article.

Posted by: hanee at August 18, 2005 08:06 PM

Great article. I figured that was the general consensus in the US regarding the womens league. Living in Australia, the 99% of ball fans follow the NBA (of which during the 2005 season we had no representitives) over the womens league, where we have some of the best women players and maybe THE best in Lauren Jackson. We need articles like this to change the mentality, internationally, as well as in the US.

Ryan M

Posted by: Ryan at August 18, 2005 09:46 PM

Thank you so much for writing an article that finally gets it all right. I went to my first WNBA game on August 6th. The Seattle Storm, my favorite team, were playing against the Liberty at Madison Square Garden. I met several Storm fans, and I had an amazing time. I even got to meet Sue Bird and Janell Burse. Both players were extremely gracious and very personable. When I went to an NBA pre-season game a few years ago, the players wouldn't even take the time to sign autographs. The NBA may have a lot of dunking, but the WNBA actually has skills.

Posted by: Melissa at August 18, 2005 10:13 PM

Mr Kiley,

Nice article.

The WNBA is great basketball. It is basketball played below the rim. The players defend in earnest and they do so not just in the last two minutes of each period. The WNBA is a league full of fundamentally sound players - teams full of Tim Duncans. The action under the boards is as tough as it gets - and on most every play.

Muzzy Bowes and Joel Bryan as coaches? That is an insult to the dedication of the professionals that play the sport. Until the league owners and league offices get serious about their great game all the marketing in the world is not going to help.

Yeah, I know how to spell Bogues and Bryant but until the national media gives these women their due and start assigning real reporters to the teams, Mugsy and Joe might as well get used used to the errors to their names.

Posted by: TJ at August 18, 2005 11:09 PM

Mr. Kiley,

I read your article while watching the Silver Stars and Monarchs on NBA TV, listening to the Lynx and Storm on a webcast at the same time.

As a former college football player, it is with great surprise that I find myself an avid WNBA fan, after watching the league since its beginning 9 years ago. I've found that I've almost stopped following the NFL and NBA; they just can't hold my interest anymore in the face of the WNBA. I've begun watching the NCAA Womens' games to see the prospective draft picks.

This season, my wife, my 9-year-old son, and I will make the 6-hour round trip to Charlotte 7 times to see the last-place Sting. They have become family outings for us that we plan aour summers around the day the schedule is announced.

This summer we took my visiting 13-year-old nephew to some games and he became an instant fan; he plans to attend Mercury games when he returns home to Phoenix.

Attending WNBA games has become one of my family's most treasured activities; I only hope other people take the opportunity to experience it as you did.

--Butch

Posted by: Butch at August 19, 2005 12:05 AM

Great article. I believe attendance would be higher at the NY Liberty games if the local radio and TV stations would report the scores for every game. Local papers often list all hometown men's teams on their websites, but either omit the Liberty or just list women's basketball under "other sports."

WINS radio always says if the Mets or Yankees are home and the time of the game. Sure would be nice to do the same for the Liberty.

Posted by: Kitty at August 19, 2005 12:20 AM

Mr. Kiley, all WNBA fans thank you for your positive piece on women's b-ball. Here in LA, it's an uphill battle with the media for good coverage, but you are so right about the lack of promotion/marketing. I suspect it's a $$ issue. Thank you for being there for the players nationwide.

Posted by: Pat at August 19, 2005 12:59 AM

Damn good sports reporting! Thanks for giving the WNBA a good view and review - they are fantastic! So are you for recognizing the potential in women's basketball as a truly enjoyable spectator sport. They must love this game (just look how much they're underpaid!) Becky Hammond is a beautiful athlete to watch in motion as well as a positive role model for young girls. At times, it's hard to say that about the men of the NBA. My son admired Bryant, and look what happened. My son is now an avid WNBA fan. See you at the game!

Posted by: Jeanette Rowe at August 19, 2005 01:53 AM

David: Thank you for the great article about your experience with the WNBA. As an avid fan of the Seattle Storm I am often amazed at the physical strengh and athletic ability of the players. But, it would be amiss not to thank Title Nine for providing women with the opportunity to play competitive sports in college. Those are the ranks of todays player. Continue to enjoy the games and writing such great articles.

Posted by: Yolanda LePley at August 19, 2005 02:35 AM

Thanks for the positive article. I saw my first game two years ago in Minnesota and my second game at Madison Square Garden and my third game at the Staples Center in L.A. In the Garden, I had the same sense of family fun and true enjoyment as you did. People were friendly, the game was entertaining and the players were true professionals and appreciative of the support.

Now, I must admit that I have been a fan from day one because I am from Houston and winning the title four years in a row made everyone in the town a fan! T-Spoon scared us all when she made that half court "prayer" to make us play all three games before our third title...and it is great to see N.Y. back in playoff contention once again. I love this game and enjoyed your article.

Posted by: Jeremy at August 19, 2005 01:02 PM

Great post. I'm a normal guy who loves the men game. My wife convinced me to watch the 'W' during its first season. I've been hooked ever since. Whoever says the ladies don't put out a good product is missing out. Go Comets!

Posted by: Larry at August 19, 2005 01:18 PM

It is a well kept secret. Just try and find mention of the NY Liberty in the NY Times. Their coverage is pitiful. Maybe you could take a NY Times sports writer to a game.

Posted by: sheryl at August 19, 2005 04:02 PM

Great article and in Bs.Wk.no less!!! I am an avid fan of the WNBA for the same reasons - it is the only true form of basketball left. Thanks for the positive report and welcome to the WNBA fan club.

Posted by: Wanda at August 19, 2005 04:10 PM

I am so glad that you enjoyed the game and we would invite you to come to Houston and watch our wonderful COMETS play. Thanks for the support for the WNBA!

Posted by: Ron at August 19, 2005 04:18 PM

David,

What a GREAT article!! If only we could get more men to attend games, I'm sure they would learn to enjoy the REAL game. Come on out and catch a Phoenix Mercury game! As I say at every home game: "I LOVE THIS GAME!!"

Posted by: Ruthe at August 19, 2005 04:43 PM

I loved your article. We need more people to come to games to make sure the league stays in business.

Posted by: Shoshana at August 19, 2005 05:21 PM

Thanks for a great article. I have been going off and on to the Liberty games for several years now. This year I have been to every home game and next year will be a season ticket holder. The teams have been getting better each year and the competition has increased. I have seen some really great games. We all need to get the word out.

Posted by: Marcus1 at August 19, 2005 07:53 PM

David,

Fantastic article! I have been a Sparks STH since 98, and I am a diehard fan. I have even gotten some of my male collegues at Boeing to begin watching the game. I haven't been able to get them to attend a live game, but they are starting to watch the WNBA on TV.

Like you observed, the WNBA is a such a pure game (passing, plays, screens, etc). Also, when there are two competitive teams going at it for 40+ minutes, it can take your breath away (and your voice, too).

David, keep coming back, and post some more articles. You should definitely take a look at the upcoming playoffs. They will be awesome.

Thanks again.

Posted by: Sparkfan33 at August 20, 2005 04:13 AM

As a former WNBA player, it is always nice to see something positive written about the league. It is a league that has so much to offer the greater public, but such a huge wall to get over as far as promotion is concerned. Since even the local sports media where teams play do little to cover the teams and any coverage on a national sports broadcast such as ESPN only happens when something very out of the ordinary occurs during the season, let me say from the bottom of my heart that it feels great to see someone just take note of one of our everyday games and express such a positive reaction on such a national forum.

Posted by: Michele Van Gorp at August 20, 2005 12:01 PM

Thank you for the article and the positive comments about the WNBA. Being a season ticket holder of the Connecticut Sun team it is frustrating to see that the coverage is barely ever seen or mentioned on TV. The women are excelent role models on how to play exciting basketball and learn how to win (and lose) without negativity.

Posted by: Jackie DeVoe at August 20, 2005 01:18 PM

I am a young player that loves watching the WNBA! I hope to make it there myself one day. You should go to the All-Star game next year. I just went to the one this year and it is going to be one of the greatest memories of my life!!!!

Posted by: Katherine at August 20, 2005 06:18 PM

Mr Kiley,

Thanks SO much for your WNBA review. I have had NY Liberty season tickets right off the court since the 3rd season and bring a friend with me to every home game. Season ticket holders get 2 free passes for 2 tickets each in the sections where you sat and I've created a number of new WNBA fans by giving those to people who were borderline about the women's game. But a real score happened online for Yankees tickets one fine summer day - a friend's boyfriend mentioned that his g/f wasn't with him because she was at a WNBA game. He and a few other neanderthals online, were banging their chests and grabbing various parts of their anatomy while insisting that they would rather "spend a night at Riker's Island" than attend a WNBA game. We got the protesting boyfriend to a game shortly after that. Needless to say, he LOVED it and now he pouts when we don't have an extra ticket for him and stays home to watch the game on MSG.

Posted by: CCL at August 21, 2005 10:19 AM

Thank Thanks Thanks for writing that Article about WNBA. I too attend with my three girls My wife daugther and granddaugther I wish more family will go to these games. thank you agsin

Posted by: Arthur Fitten at August 21, 2005 07:37 PM

Great article on the WNBA. I have started the MisterWNBA.com weblog about the WNBA which will take the image as a male fan's website of the WNBA. The women's game is more about fundamentals. They play under the basket, not over like their male NBA counterparts. I am also a diehard New York Liberty fan. Go Liberty!

Posted by: Anthony at August 21, 2005 10:01 PM

I've been a fan of the WNBA since its inception and until I moved to Louisville in 2001 I was a Houston Comets season ticket holder. I love the WNBA game so much that I make a one and a half hour drive to Indy every year when the Comets come to town to play the Indiana Fever.

It has bothered me that the ladies don't get the ink, respect and attention that they are due in terms of the quality of their play. Remember when the Dream Team faltered at the Athens Olympics lat year, the USA WNBA women's team won gold.

Thanks for letting the rest of the world in on the best kept secret in sports.

Go Comets!

Posted by: Monica Roberts at August 21, 2005 11:42 PM

Thanks for the great artical on the WNBA. It showed a lot of guts to write a piece about women's basketball becuase not many men wuold ever admit that the women's game is much better than the mens game. The WNBA and me, a die-hard baksetball fan needs you to write articls like this.

Posted by: Janki at August 22, 2005 12:16 AM

Thank you, Mr. Kiley for your insightful and honest article on the WNBA. I too am a little frustrated at the lack of promotion and pour salaries received by this league. Maybe if more columnists as yourself speak out things will change. Thanks again for your support!

Posted by: Alicia at August 22, 2005 02:01 PM

You said it ... all the things I've been saying to my friends to try to get them out to a game. Attend live and you'll realize it's the best fun for the buck out there. With inspirational play and players and family values added in, it's a shame that gender-based misconceptions discourage attendance. (But I like it on t.v. too.)

Posted by: Caryn at August 22, 2005 02:12 PM

Thank you for writing a great article about the WNBA. Yes, they are fun to watch. And, I agree they need more marketing.

Posted by: Shan at August 22, 2005 06:04 PM

i have watched wnba for a while not any more beause i think its all about your name and what college you can out of i think a lot of people are turing away from it its all about tenn,conn

Posted by: pat at August 22, 2005 08:00 PM

Dear Mr. Kiley,

I've been a season ticket holder for five years and along with my daughter (who also has a season ticket) have attended almost every single NY Liberty game since 2001. Thank you for the heartwarming article. Yes, indeed, we know a good thing when we see it and cherish the memories each game brings.

Thank you for recognizing the talent in each player and the coaches and for recognizing the fans that keep the league going and going!

Great article! Bring your son to a game!

J

Posted by: Judy at August 22, 2005 09:00 PM

Dave, good stuff. I started following the WNBA about 7 years ago while my daughter was a high school Bball player. It is flashback material seeing multiple passes and players who actually have fun and still care who wins a regular season game.

Having followed the league a while I can say that I am starting to see sloppy NBA stuff leach into the game; more traveling allowed, palming the ball, 3 seconds leniency. This is not good. Marketing people are always impatient and will destroy the beauty of the game in order to 'make it more exciting' for the 'casual' fan. I say screw the casual fan. Structre the game for the people who love it and let people who don't get drawn in by others enthusiasm or move on to something else.

There is also a tendency in women's sports to try to 'be like the men'. Garbage! It is different, not better or worse, it's different! Why copy a failed model? The NBA is tantamount to what the Globetrotters were 30 years ago, a group of talented athletes performing tricks with a basketball. Who wins the game is secondary. I loved basketball as much as anyone growing up. Now, myself and most of the people I know, find the NBA unwatchable. Yes, the arenas sell out (but not all of them) but that is because of corporate ticket holders and the tax write offs. They are having more trouble each year with TV viewership. The trends in the WNBA scare me. Already, they have minimalized their uniform logos to look more like the NBA's stupid designs, they dumped succesful teams from Utah and Portland and the orchestrated "Lisa Leslie Dunk" in the All-Star game merely announced that the Women's game can be as obtuse as the Men's.

Still, the WNBA is the premier professional basketball league in the U.S. Hopefully, David Stearn & Co. will one day realize that Argentina really does play better Bball than the U.S. because the U.S. decided to ruin it's own game so it would be 'exciting' for the casual fan. Hopefully the powers that be in the WNBA will safeguard the integrity of their game and continue to bring home international gold medals and that will attract larger audiences to their games.

Posted by: Patrick Duffy at August 23, 2005 09:20 AM

thank you very much for a masterful article on teh WNBA...The world definitely needs more people like you. I would agree with your statement about the WNBA needing more marketing...And I definitely find WNBA games more exhilarating than NBA games. With more support from fans like you, the WNBA will be able to grow and gain more popularity in years to come.

Posted by: Tommy at September 8, 2005 09:47 PM

The W.N.B.A. has horrible names. Indiana Fever, for example-why would you want to name your club after something that leaves you sick in bed? Oh yeah. And if you join Houston Comets you become a Comet. But if you join Seattle Storm what do you become? A Lightning Bolt? A Stormcloud? A Storm is ONE thing. You might as well name a particular N.B.A. club the Minnesota Timberwolf.

Posted by: John Flushing at December 24, 2005 10:02 PM

The article was great. My only issue is with those responding to the article. These individuals are behaving as though the WNBA is the best thing since sliced bread and is the only 'real' basketball around and is far and away better than the NBA and blah blah blah. Any D-League team could enter the WNBA as a team and go undefeated. Any NBA team could enter the WNBA as a team and go undefeated. Period. The WNBA has it's share of poor role models as well so don't even go there. Your obvious bias against the NBA only goes to show that you're not paying attention. The Detriot Pistons are a much better team than ANY team in the WNBA and if you'll be honest with yourselves you'd admit that no team in the WNBA would stand a chance against them. Why am I pitting women's teams against the men's teams you ask? Because your readers are making the same attempt and I am only attempting to get them to see that the WNBA in NO way compares to the NBA. The players in the NBA are larger, faster and stronger. They are simply better athletes on average. YES I SAID IT, THEY ARE BETTER ATHLETES. Were it not for the NBA there would be no WNBA at all. These NBA players your readers are so quick to demonize are the ONLY reason that there is a WNBA in the first place. My e-mail address is uncontainable_spirit@yahoo.com so if any of you wants to contact me to tell me how wrong I am, i'm nore than willing to reply unlike the bulk of you who merely stated your comment without the opportunity for rebuttal.

BTW... i'm an LA Sparks fan to the core and if any player in the WNBA could make the transition to the NBA I firmly believe that it would be Mwadi Mabika. I'm also a fan of LA Tech and the Tenn Volunteers and I believe that Pat Summit is one of the top 15 greatest coaches of all time regardless of sport.

Posted by: Sekou McHenry at December 27, 2005 07:00 AM

i want to write to lisa leslie but i do not know where to send it on paper!

Posted by: sarah forbes at February 2, 2006 02:01 PM

hey my name is kayla and i am doing a project for a career i want to be. I want to be a pro basketball player and i need 2 beable to ask a player some questions it would really help me out if you did. I would like to interview Lisa Leaslie but anyone is fine with me thanks!

Posted by: Kayla Bowling at October 5, 2006 11:00 PM

thank you for writing this article Mr.Kiley. I am doing a report on womens basketball and this is really helpful..

thank you

Posted by: texas girl at February 5, 2007 04:25 PM

Few bashers, nice. I love this article. I love both leagues, but if I want the old fundamental stuff, I watch the WNBA.

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