Why a Paul Win in Iowa Won't Matter

Posted by: Joshua Green on December 29, 2011

It’s getting hard to imagine a plausible scenario in which Mitt Romney does not wind up as the Republican presidential nominee — he has the money, experience, and staff the other candidates lack, and enough dull appeal to remain competitive throughout. Plus, the Republicans who surpass him have the longevity of Spinal Tap drummers. The latest is Texas Representative Ron Paul, who holds a narrow lead in most recent polls of Iowa and so stands the best chance of beating Romney next Tuesday.

Paul’s late emergence is universally regarded as a stroke of good fortune for Romney, and a Paul victory in Iowa would be seen as merely delaying, rather than denying, Romney’s eventual coronation. In fact, many commentators are already dispensing with the usual pretense of calling him a ”long shot” and stating outright that Paul won’t become the nominee. They’re probably right — but at the same time, Iowans famously cherish their status as the first to weigh in on presidential candidates, and few would knowingly waste their vote.

So what’s going on? The best explanation could be that the diverging views of Ron Paul actually reflect different understandings of what a vote for him would signify.

Members of Congress and the national press view Paul as an amiable crank, more willing than most to stick to his libertarian principles - he once cast the lone vote to deny Mother Teresa the Congressional Gold Medal because the Constitution doesn’t expressly authorize the expenditure - but chiefly concerned with making a point. As David Fahrenthold noted in the Washington Post, Paul has sponsored 620 measures in his lengthy congressional career, only four of which even made it to the House floor, and just one of which became law. Paul also embodies the implacable extremities of the Tea Party, a fading movement inside the Beltway that last week lost the big fight it had provoked over the payroll tax, and has come to be regarded as slightly passe.

Furthermore, many of Paul’s positions, such as his isolationism, are out of step with today’s Republican Party. These positions, along with his ties to the political fringe, would probably disqualify him were they better known. Just this week, a number of newspapers highlighted the vile, racist newsletters that Paul published in the 1990s, which, among other things, accused blacks of ”racial terrorism” and asserted that AIDS victims ”enjoy the attention and pity that comes from being sick.” (Paul claims he did not write them.) And as the caucuses loom, the other candidates have started drawing attention to these weaknesses. Paul has been written off because Washington observers assume that no one could survive such ugly revelations.

But most Republican caucus-goers in Iowa don’t have the same familiarity with Paul and still hold firm to the values that gave rise to the Tea Party. According to a recent Iowa State University poll, the most important issues to the  respondents were ”jobs and the economy” (35 percent), ”the size and role of the federal government” (24 percent), and “the national debt and the deficit” (22 percent). By a healthy margin, respondents were also looking for a nominee who would ”take a strong stand” over one who seemed more electable in November. Not surprisingly, Paul was the voters’ first choice. Even those who do not support him routinely say they view him as the most consistent potential nominee.

In light of how the race has developed, it’s also unsurprising that Paul’s support has been steadily building up. Candidates like Rick Perry and Newt Gingrich, who were initially touted as staunch conservative alternatives to Romney, have been exposed as apostates on issues ranging from immigration and individual liberty (Perry) to health-care mandates, lobbying, and the government’s role in the housing market (Gingrich). Paul is the natural repository of support from voters frustrated by these revelations.

But influential as these voters are in determining who wins the caucuses, they’re only a sliver of the electorate - historically, about 3 to 5 percent of Iowa’s adult population. That may be why, as seriously as Iowans take their duty, the caucus winner rarely goes on to seize the nomination, and is more likely to spontaneously self-combust like that unfortunate Spinal Tap drummer.

Joshua Green writes a weekly column for the Boston Globe. Follow him on Twitter @JoshuaGreen.

Reader Comments

robert m. simon

December 29, 2011 11:48 AM

What garbage!If Romney wins the nomination,it's Obama 2.Mitt Romney has no appeal to Democrats or independents.Polls show Paul does.If he wins Iowa,then he can get momentum to winnow down Romney's lead among non-thinking New Hampshire voters.This is simply more Establishment nonsense from "journalists" who want another wasted election between 2 dullard candidates....

Eric Everett

December 29, 2011 12:01 PM

"racist newsletters that Paul published in the 1990s"

Totally false.

"Paul’s positions, such as his isolationism"

False again.

You are an embarrassment to journalism if you cannot do basic research instead of reporting false statements.

Paul's rise is due to the American people growing tired of a government that doesn't reflect the people, rather corporations. Paul is one of the very few politicians that actually weighs the constitution, which he pledged to uphold, when voting. Just because you morally disagree with something, doesn't give your government the right to pass laws pertaining to it if they have no legal authority. Don't like it? Then change the constitution by amendment, as it allows.

Thanks for adding to a smear campaign against the only honest candidate.

Jeff

December 29, 2011 12:02 PM

Love the Spinal Tap Reference, but you're wrong about Paul. He brings something new to the table that Romney does't: consistency, honesty, and a true plan to put this country back on track economically.

Go Ron Go!

Steve

December 29, 2011 12:09 PM

Ron Paul is an "Isolationist?" Please provide some evidence that this is true.

I imagine you won't because you can't.

This is weak journalism and unprofessional. Please grow up, or at least wake up.

garrison fink

December 29, 2011 12:09 PM

People are tired of business as usual and they have a right to be. If you want more of the same vote for Romney/Obama. If you want the freedom to make your own decisions and and a smaller government not telling you how to live vote for Ron Paul.

It's truly pathetic how bad you swill-guzzlers try to neglect a growing movement in our country.

Eddie

December 29, 2011 12:10 PM

Gee, another Paul hit-piece. This one wasn't even written well and offered nothing of substance, just in-your-face agenda (you guys don't even pretend to be objective. Keep trotting out anti-Paul propaganda like "isolationism" and maybe people will start to believe it.

The Bankers Are Scared

December 29, 2011 12:11 PM

This kind of propaganda sounds like it came right out of a state-owned newspaper from North Korea.

truth

December 29, 2011 12:13 PM

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. We're remembering names and faces, that you can actually count on. Names and faces folks, names and faces, sleep well....

TheAmerican

December 29, 2011 12:14 PM

Ronald Reagan spoke in support of Paul's foreign policy views in the early 1980's, stating "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Paul said, "There's nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today... we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the earth within hours. And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we're acting like such bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military and have no weapons."

TheAmerican

December 29, 2011 12:14 PM

Ronald Reagan spoke in support of Paul's foreign policy views in the early 1980's, stating "Ron Paul is one of the outstanding leaders fighting for a stronger national defense. As a former Air Force officer, he knows well the needs of our armed forces, and he always puts them first. We need to keep him fighting for our country."

Paul said, "There's nobody in this world that could possibly attack us today... we could defend this country with a few good submarines. If anybody dared touch us we could wipe any country off of the face of the earth within hours. And here we are, so intimidated and so insecure and we're acting like such bullies that we have to attack third-world nations that have no military and have no weapons."

Kat

December 29, 2011 12:16 PM

So tired of the media downplaying Ron Paul. I think he is the only candidate that actually offers tangible benefits to the American public and he is the ONLY Republican candidate I would consider voting for.

Opino1984

December 29, 2011 12:16 PM

Of course Romney will be nominated, he is the most like Obama and thus will continue the same policies that Obama has continued from Bush and as Bush continued from Clinton before him.

We just shuffle the deck, nothing really changes in DC.

Rayetta Croft

December 29, 2011 12:16 PM

I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ (Mormon) I don't smoke, drink, or do drugs. I don't hate Jews, Muslims or gay people, or anyone else, I'm well past my college days, and I do not support either Mormon in the race. I will vote for Ron Paul and no other.
He's honest, sincere in his love of liberty, consistent, moral, brilliant, incorruptible and has real answers to serious problems. I will be voting for Ron Paul because he is a true patriot and statesman with the courage to enact real change. We haven't seen one like him in a century.

Scott Berrian

December 29, 2011 12:17 PM

Yes Mr. Media Pundit, we get the message loud and clear...you choose the leaders, our votes don't count.

I just never thought y'all would get this obtuse about it to the point where you just come out and say it plainly.

BTW: I always figured the fix was in for Romney. It was the same deal as McCain had 4 years ago: He was chosen early, buried in the press for a while, and then in the meantime his competition was buried 1 hit piece at a time. And lo and behold, just in time for the primaries.

Yes, it's rigged. Thanks for reminding me Mr. Green.

Andrew

December 29, 2011 12:18 PM

This post is garbage, and here's an example of why: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1jdrpsNPtg

mickeywhite

December 29, 2011 12:18 PM

Let's see, Paul can't win, but Paul is going to win?
Ron Paul is not a Neocon like all the others and that is why the Media hate him.
Go Ron Paul!

Fred

December 29, 2011 12:18 PM

"Paul’s positions, such as his isolationism"

You journalists are DISGUSTING liars! Do articles get edited or fact checked before being published anymore? Its not hard, a child can do it. Ill give you a head start: GOOGLE IT.

If it were any other candidate winning in Iowa youd be on your knees and praising about how this candidate is going to snag the election, but just because its ron paul "it doesnt matter". did it not matter in any other previous election?

But keep spewing your misinformation, you only do it because Ron Paul has no dirt for you to dig up.

Ron P 2012!

Mike Lamb

December 29, 2011 12:19 PM

You gotta understand which news media is responsible for this article to understand why it is so anti and negative Ron Paul. The article has SMEAR written all over it!

btw--Bloomberg Business week is simply another "Elite/Establishment" news rag.

Michael-Deo Vindicabamur

Tony

December 29, 2011 12:19 PM

The majority of this article is copied from a similar one I read yesterday, literally word for word. The author was creative enough to at least add in a spinal tap reference.

If you journalists would take the 30 seconds to see why Paul votes the way he does, and actually include that point of view in your one-sided slam pieces, you'd earn a lot more credibility.

FYI, Paul said Congress has become a millionaires club, and if they want to bestow any awards on other celebrities it should be paid for out of the pockets of the congressmen themselves, not the taxpayer.

Christo Garcia

December 29, 2011 12:20 PM

I hate articles like this from political fortune tellers. We've seen how predictable this election season is. An Iowa win is huge, and if Dr. Paul wins it proves he his platform is working extremely well with the electorate. Please, quit giving us bogus predictions regarding Ron Paul. He keeps making you look ridiculous.

godsatheist

December 29, 2011 12:21 PM

The powers that be will never let Paul become president. He would bring home our troops and money and the war machine would go broke.

brettrix

December 29, 2011 12:21 PM

@joshua - did you really write this? is that how they teach you to write in journalism school these days? I never liked the journalism classes i took as my professor always made me stick to the truth and kept me unbiased.. it was too tough for me since i always take a side on an issue - too bad you didn't have my teacher, your skills would be greatly improved.

William Taylor

December 29, 2011 12:21 PM

This article is yet another attempt to implant the idea in peoples minds that Ron Paul can't win when he can! It is up to the voters not the press to decide. This is yellow journalism at it's worst. I see this as good news because the establishments sees Ron Paul as a real threat and American Voters are not as stupid as the establishment thinks they are. Ron Paul 2012!

soot

December 29, 2011 12:21 PM

C'mon, this argument is at least three weeks old now. You're just catching on? Maybe the headline should read "Why Joshua Green Doesn't Matter."

Ron Paul 2012

truthteller

December 29, 2011 12:23 PM

Jewish lies from Jewish writer Joshua Green with his Jewish agenda

basshawk

December 29, 2011 12:23 PM

Man Joshua, you guys are really squirming now. Just hold on, it's gonna get worse. Ron Paul 2012.

Ryan Felton

December 29, 2011 12:23 PM

This "news article" is rife with false claims and half truths. Does this even qualify as journalism or can any maladroit write for Businessweek?

Patrick

December 29, 2011 12:23 PM

A vote for Romney (or any other candidate) is another vote for the status quo. Mainstream media is underestimating the number of disgruntled voters looking for a real change in governmental philosophy that Ron Paul provides.

snowflake

December 29, 2011 12:27 PM

typical corporate media hit piece

simon paul

December 29, 2011 12:27 PM

"Members of Congress and the national press view Paul as an amiable crank"
Congress approval rate is 11% and National Press is dominated by corporate presstitutes who are defending the corrupt system from which they are feeding.

"In times of universal deceipt telling the truth is a revolutionary act"

Ron Paul already won.

mike

December 29, 2011 12:28 PM

I feel so dirty reading this hit piece. Is this even considered journalism?
While the core of ron is trade, talking to countries like cuba ect this "journalist" calls him "isolationist". Sad how one can be sold for a paycheque. What happened to integrity, non-bias reporting?

Bob

December 29, 2011 12:28 PM

I love reading pieces like this ... it just proves that after Ron Paul wins in Iowa, there will me a tsunami of new money coming to help finance his winning campaign.

Joe

December 29, 2011 12:29 PM

RON PAUL IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR RON PAUL.

anonoped

December 29, 2011 12:29 PM

Joshua Green is practicing yellow journalism.

Every paragraph you wrote in this article completely mis-represents Ron Paul's positions.

Why does Joshua Green want a continuation of the wars and deficit spending? What does he stand to lose?

Mr. Anderson

December 29, 2011 12:30 PM

Wow...The media smearing continues. Hopefully people look into the truth, rather than your hate-filled, inaccurate article before they decide who they want leading their country.

jim

December 29, 2011 12:31 PM

this article is a disgrace. romney's flip-flopping on such fundamental (and even moral!) issues like abortion just to fit his campaign at the time is absolutely despicable. it undermines the entire election process, and romney seems to have no problem smiling while doing it. I just don't understand how people have no problem with a candidate changing his position on something like abortion. either you're pro life or pro choice, how can you be both?!?!

Roger

December 29, 2011 12:32 PM

I am a democrat, but am willing to vote for Paul. He will bring something new for the country and to the world. Most problems, I see, are created by some past leaders of the party.

Ohio Farmer

December 29, 2011 12:35 PM

Joshua Greene, like John McCain, Mitt Romney, Newt Gingrich, etc... doesn't even know the difference between isolationism and non-interventionism. Doing this country any favors he is not with journalistic tripe such as this.

Bill

December 29, 2011 12:37 PM

Everything old is new again:

The best and ONLY chance the Republicans have of beating Obama is to send up the one man with true conservative ideals. Ron Paul.

Independents will vote for him as will many of the change focused democrats that are frustrated with Obama's impotence.

I have listened to many comments made by voters in Iowa at these Romney Stump stops, and the prevailing comment is not about his policies or his belief's but just that "Romney looks like he has the best chance to beat Obama"

With Independent voters and moderate dem's for Ron Paul the real question is would the republicans actually vote for him.

Anne

December 29, 2011 12:40 PM

I have to say this is worse than the Boston Globe reporter who based his entire article on another article. Guess what? the media is not in charge and has no special pre-knowledge. A lot of people are no longer listening to your propoganda - more every day. The latest smear is so weak that it demonstrates the fact that you fools have nothing on Dr. Paul. Do some research before you declare dewey the winner.

rk3520

December 29, 2011 12:41 PM

I just hope the MSM keeps up the good work about bashing Ron Paul for the more they do it the more Ron will become the president. We are all tired of the MSM BS, is all they want us to do is follow everyone like sheep off the cliff.
Ron Paul 2012

thr1xp

December 29, 2011 12:41 PM

Not much of a Ron Paul fan. I admit he has a lot of extreme views some of which are simply insane. But despite that, it's amazing to me how the media has completely ignored and brushed him off throughout his campaign.

martyblueyes

December 29, 2011 12:42 PM

Is there any way I can get the last 5 minutes of my life back that I spent wasting my time reading this garbage?

Jodi

December 29, 2011 12:44 PM

Hey Josh, fail.....

Ron Paul 2012!!!

RonPaul2012

December 29, 2011 12:44 PM

Joshua Green and others like him are in my personal opinion paid by people to write news by people who own news websites, who are owned themselves by the (didn't earn it) rich, who are themselves owned by the ultra rich that also pay lobbyist to control washington DC.

Don't vote for Ron Paul if you want to contunie to spend our future money on useless wars and then we all get poor, then when we have no more middle class, the ultra rich that made money off these wars will move to the newest place to leech on and will be fine while the normal citizen will suffer because all our riches in america was spent on wars to line the pockets of the ultra rich

Larry Shelborn

December 29, 2011 12:46 PM

Ron Paul's "isolationism" decodes as wanting to stop spending trillions on Israel's behalf, which means he out as far as the media is concerned.

pirate4paul

December 29, 2011 12:48 PM

bloomberg? Joshua, you need another job.
due to the in-effeciency of this report, sales would not be in your interest. you should try digging or something that doesnt require you to think.

for freedom, liberty and the true american way, forget the rest and vote for the best, Dr. Paul 2012

desadiste

December 29, 2011 12:49 PM

“The most brilliant propagandist technique will yield no success unless one fundamental principle is borne in mind constantly and with unflagging attention. It must confine itself to a few points and repeat them over and over. Here, as so often in this world, persistence is the first and most important requirement for success.” "War Propaganda", in Volume 1, Chapter 6 of Mein Kampf (1925), by Adolf Hitler

Will

December 29, 2011 12:50 PM

What a joke, you corporate hoes will write anything you're told.

Turn Off Your TV

December 29, 2011 12:50 PM

If the media just keeps repeating false things about Ron Paul, the support just might go away.

This has always worked in the past, but the internet is a game-changer.

Suppressing truth is becoming more and more of a challenge for the the powers that be.

Gerald

December 29, 2011 12:50 PM

"Ron Paul is not a serious candidate, he can't win... If he does win, it doesn't matter... If it does matter it was because of an aberration in the weather. Please go back to work and continue to support our undeclared wars, banker bailouts, and Patriot Act." -Your Masters.

Mr. Wilkins

December 29, 2011 12:52 PM

"That may be why, as seriously as Iowans take their duty, the caucus winner rarely goes on to seize the nomination"

Iowa as a state is famous for choosing the president! When they choose Ron Paul, that's a great indication that the mass electorate will vote for him.

Please, just read a book. You know nothing about politics other than regurgitating what the main stream media tell you to think.

Andrew

December 29, 2011 12:55 PM

I wonder what Joshua's regards are to our comments. You've wrote an ignorant hit piece, and of course are hiding away now, refusing to defend your excuse for journalism.

It will be amusing when Paul wins Iowa and the MSM struggles as Paul's name will be spread to the nation.

Derrick

December 29, 2011 12:58 PM

Yellow journalism at it's finest!

paul

December 29, 2011 1:02 PM

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Artus

December 29, 2011 1:02 PM

If you can't be bothered to research words you don't understand, like "isolationism," perhaps you should stick to reporting on high school football games.

patrick

December 29, 2011 1:02 PM

ditto it's sickening how the media is trying their hardest to sway the voting conscience of Americans. how is it that if romney wins Iowa the Iowa caucus is legitimate, but if paul wins it's irrelevant? why can't we let the process take care of itself instead of the media making hand pick our candidates. their attemmpts to minimize paul are falling on deff ears. it's truly shameful and here is the worst. fox news has no problem touting Romney and omitting Pauls success, but has the nerve to complain about ABC and the rest of the liberal medias bias towards Obama on '08.

Joe Zrnchik

December 29, 2011 1:04 PM

Why can't you reporters understand that there is a big difference between isolationism and non-interventionism?

Ron Paul is the only candidate that understand­s the limits of military power and is able to discern when foreign policy dressed in reasonable sounding pronouncem­ents ends up being nothing more than the mass exterminat­ion of humans for corporate profit the other candidates laughingly refer to as peace.

War is the biggest centrally-planned and counter-productive government program ever devised. I have served as an officer in the military for 28 years and understand Army operations. These plans are always counter-productive and involve massively profound unintended consequences that sequence and branch into results that destroy the social fabric and pervert every democratic institution upon which civil society rests, not just of the country that is being attacked, but also of the country that is doing the attacking.

The house of cards the U.S. creates by installing puppet governments only remains standing so long as there is a never-ending commitment of U.S. foreign aid and American blood. The end result is that we fracture and atomize a society that eventually solidifies into one where the people are violently anti-American. Our hegmonic policies always eventually reach a point of diminishing returns regarding what advances American interests and begins to cultivate an anti-American movement that expands with exponential growth.

We have truly seen the end results of American foreign policy on 9/11. The people who run American foreign policy can not accept nor ever face that fact. Ron Paul is also the only one who seems to understand that by doing more of the same we will end up with more terrorism, not less. Take this advice from someone who has studied history, economics and war for 28 years. If we maintain our present course we will end up destitute and living under an oppressive police state, but I surmise at this point I am stating the blantantly obvious.

John

December 29, 2011 1:05 PM

Are you writing these pieces to get a bump in traffic for yourself? Well it worked. To bad this article does not provide any new information nor is it accurate. Thanks for your opinion Mr. Green. Freedom of speech is nice.

RON PAUL 2012

RG

December 29, 2011 1:06 PM

I'm glad someones out there to tell us what Matters.(Especially to them) If you actually do know what Matter is please inform a Particle Physicist ASAP.

Ed. Perez

December 29, 2011 1:09 PM

I am a Mexican American and I support Ron Paul. Readers, please look at Dr. Paul's videos on you tube to get the real story. This article by Joshua Green does not have any information. It is just a piece of propaganda with no real news.

The real question is: How does businessweek have on staff such mediocre reporter?

Larry

December 29, 2011 1:10 PM

I remember my first biased article.

NotARonPaulFan

December 29, 2011 1:10 PM

I don't agree with many of Paul's view, but to consider this garbage "journalism" and not just another smear-campaign article is ridiculous. And that is why you will never be a successful journalist. Douche.

Frank

December 29, 2011 1:11 PM

What shoddy, lazy and biased journalism. Those who win Iowa rarely win the nomination? Um...of the last 5 Iowa caucuses, 4 of the last 5 got the republican nomination. But we all know the media doesn't care about fairness or even facts, just about psychologically controlling the general public. Look Joshua Green, you're industry is irrelevant and dying. The only time people pay attention to you is to point out case study of propaganda tactics and mind control. You've lost the general public.

TommyO

December 29, 2011 1:11 PM

I can't believe this hack! He by-lines the article with "JOSHUA GREEN" in huge bold font as if he's proud - but can't even get basic facts straight! What a schmuck - total hit piece yellow press propaganda - FAIL at best!
The media is currently working overtime to convince voters that the candidates like: Romney; Gingrich; Perry and Bachmann are significantly different than President Obama – this is definitely pure BS! All of the 2012 candidates (in both parties) polling significant numbers nationally are deep in the pocket of international banking and the military industrial complex EXCEPT RON PAUL! This corrupt system needs an on-going puppet in the White House to keep bailing out criminals and keep this bogus war on terror going and ramped up bombing and saber rattling all awhile the media keeping the American people placated with the “two party paradigm” allowing for global elites to steal American national wealth and sovereignty! Ron Paul is the only candidate significantly different than Obama and therefore the ONLY ONE capable of beating him on issues that the majority of Americans heavily support (like ending: illegal wars; torture and illegal detention; abolishing the Patriot Act as well as the infamous NDAA; ending the Federal Reserve; stopping the failed “war on drugs and the abuses of IRS and TSA as well as getting us out of treaty organizations that rob us of our sovereignty such as: NATO and NAFTA etc.)

Michael

December 29, 2011 1:11 PM

Hahahahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa..... You should consider writing science fiction for future employment. Ron Paul 2012

Edward Murrow

December 29, 2011 1:11 PM

You are a disgrace to the the profession Mr. Green.

TheTruthster

December 29, 2011 1:17 PM

Two things drive this propaganda.
First, Ron Paul threatens the U.S. Empire which the "humanitarian" imperialists (aka Obamabots) and the neocons both love.
Second, if the U.S. gets out of the empire business, then Israel will have to make peace with its neighbors and either give the Palestinians a state or else turn Israel into a secular two-nation state. Horror!
Which one of these motivates the author? Guess.

Michael

December 29, 2011 1:19 PM

Its articles like this that will keep me away from anything with a bloomberg name on it. Pure manure.

Sam

December 29, 2011 1:20 PM

If you don't understand the difference between non-interventionism and isolationism then you either have no intelligence or no integrity.

I have the feeling its the later.

In either case, you don't deserve to be a political reporter.

Patrick

December 29, 2011 1:21 PM

ditto it's sickening how the media is trying their hardest to sway the voting conscience of Americans. how is it that if romney wins Iowa the Iowa caucus is legitimate, but if paul wins it's irrelevant? why can't we let the process take care of itself instead of the media hand picking our candidates. their attemmpts to minimize paul are falling on deff ears. it's truly shameful and here is the worst. fox news has no problem touting Romney and omitting Pauls success, but has the nerve to complain about ABC and the rest of the liberal medias bias towards Obama in '08. since everyone "supports the troops," the majority of the U.S. military overwhelmingly supports paul, are they waisting their vote like iowans?

Justin

December 29, 2011 1:22 PM

I hope readers have read these comments and not just the article. I read a similar article in the WSJ. It is so tiresome. FYI, RP is *not* an isolationist. He believes in foreign policy based on diplomacy and *free trade*, not bombs and force. WTF do so many countries have a problem with the US but not Canada or Switzerland? oh, right, the world is "complicated" now which requires us to nation build and get involved in no fewer than three wars at once. Give me a break. Maybe the pre-WWII were correct -- only go to war reluctantly and when authorized by Congress. I could go on and on, but anyone who has more than a passing interest in liberty already knows that this article is crap.

Brooks

December 29, 2011 1:22 PM

"Hard to imagine a scenario" where Romney doesn't win, and therefore a Paul win in Iowa is irrelevant?

So...the Iowa caucuses only matter if Romney wins?

I doubt if Santorum or Bachmann were leading that this article would make such a claim.

TRANSLATION: If a counter-Establishment candidate takes Iowa, ignore it.

ciscokid

December 29, 2011 1:24 PM

MSM RUNNING SCARED!!!!!!!

Hahahah

RON PAUL BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

zadoc

December 29, 2011 1:24 PM

Iowa caucuses are coming back again, I see. These caucuses are really anti-American, anti-democracy, and promote extremists over reasonable candidates.

If you don't know what a caucus is or how it works, here's a really good article: http://www.wepolls.com/p/6839729

How anyone can agree with this system is beyond me.

D

December 29, 2011 1:25 PM

Ron Paul could win every caucus and every primary in every state and the clowns over at MSM would still call him unelectable, and he will still get 89 seconds standing in the corner at a "debate". The Newspeak propaganda isn't working anymore.

Dont tread on me

December 29, 2011 1:26 PM

LAUGHING AT YOUR IMBECILE ATTEMPTS TO STOP US. THE MEDIA HAS LOST IT'S GRASP ON REALITY. GO GET A REAL JOB LIKE FLIPPING BURGERS!!!

You guys are through. The more you try to hurt us and lie to us the more it strengthens our resolve.

Only through the government shutting down the internet and those who expose losers like you and your bought and paid for journalism you can shut us up. If/when that happens we will all know and again we will fight you with old fashion vocal chords. So unless you start pulling out our tongues you have lost.

David

December 29, 2011 1:26 PM

All it seems that the newspapers and talking heads can do with Ron Paul is to convince voters that he doesn't have a chance. The notion that "he doesn't have a chance so I won't vote for him" belongs to those who don't think. They simply vote along party lines regardless of what the candidate says. People who want Ron Paul, vote for Ron Paul because they know he is right and are committed to their own ideals. I can only hope - not the 2008 election kind of hope - that people will vote for who they feel is right and in line with their personal philosophical view.

Jeremy

December 29, 2011 1:27 PM

I truly don't understand why most mainstream media outlets seem so hell-bent on cramming Mitt Romney down our throats as the GOP nominee. It's pretty clear that while he collects shifting allegiances here and there, they're not permanent and he's obviously not appealing enough to anyone to truly support his bid.

All the while media outlets keep dismissing Ron Paul in a fashion that by now is essentially criminal. To say a candidate has no chance (particularly in the face of such obvious and widespread support) is blatantly attempting to deter voters. Worse to say that a state that he's clearly leading and may likely win is all of a sudden irrelevant in the overall race is ridiculous!

Or am I misunderstood in how democratic elections and our electoral system work...?

Ryan

December 29, 2011 1:30 PM

I hope you read the comments Mr. Green, it looks like you're right on the money with this post!

Horrific journalism. Bookmark deleted.

peacout

December 29, 2011 1:31 PM

So, if everyone is so certain Romney is going to win the nomination, why don't we just save everyone the time and money and just hand Romney the nomination now and get it over with? Since, it seems the people's vote doesn't matter, why are we pretending to go through this democratic exercise? The pundits have chosen and the people don't have a choice. Call me silly but, I thought that in a real democracy the people choose the winner not the media.

ym37tech

December 29, 2011 1:31 PM

BWAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! If Paul wins Romney wins! Paul might win because the wheather! He is a racist! He is an isolationist! Check your comment sections there Joshy, everyone knows your a DB! Nice defaced Ron Paul sign on your twitter page too, what to be an objective journalist. " Google Rick Santorum" really, Mr. Bomb all the brown people, reason be damned. You're and idiot kid! This just, Josh Green is going to get owned just like he did against Hilary, I'm sure you will write a hit piece about Paul win the election is over, no one will read that either. HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Loser!

Dan

December 29, 2011 1:34 PM

Mr. Green needs to look at his career choice and consider a change where he can provide something of value instead of stealing other lies to sell an artical or give his owners the crap they want to spread.
Do some research and think for yourself mister green. It's hard work but you will feel better about yourself in the end.

Diman

December 29, 2011 1:36 PM

Man what an embarrassing article for a journalist. I thought journalism was about presenting the truth in an unbiased manner. I don't think you got either of these points! First do your research on Ron Paul and then present it without making it obvious that you hate him, keep your opinions to yourself, then maybe this article would have some value!

Allie

December 29, 2011 1:36 PM

Right. Sort of like Iowa didn't matter in 2008 when a long-shot Senator from Illinois won.

Jake

December 29, 2011 1:37 PM

It's funny that before Iowa was a huuuuuuge deal. Everything was about how important Iowa was and now that Ron Paul might possibly win Iowa... now it doesn't matter and it's not important. I love these hit-pieces on Paul because they motivate all of his supporters. Go Get 'em Ronny!!

John

December 29, 2011 1:37 PM

Every time I read an article that disparages Ron Paul I only want to vote for him more. One of the biggest reasons he is so popular is because he does stick to his principles, and he doesn't represent the same old same old GOP. Vote for Mitt if you would like to get into more wars, business as usual.

IXLNXS

December 29, 2011 1:37 PM

Know what I like about Paul?

All you pundits and talking heads hate him. Left, Right, and Center.

The bought and paid for astroturfers on both sides of the aisle are busy little beavers declaring that Paul can't win.

Doesn't really matter one way or the other anyways. The puppet in the White House doesn't make the rules. They just glad hand and give speeches filled with feel good sound bites.

David

December 29, 2011 1:37 PM

The only reason I read Bloomberg is to keep up with what my opposition is up to. What ever they promote, I do just the opposite. It works.

garrett

December 29, 2011 1:40 PM

OK here it is... once and for all: Read Dr Paul's "Liberty Defined" best seller. It says, explains and defines the man. Then decide whether you can support him or not. But never the less there it is all laid out for you... all you gotta do is READ.

Josh

December 29, 2011 1:42 PM

"Paul also embodies the implacable extremities of the Tea Party, a fading movement inside the Beltway that last week lost the big fight it had provoked over the payroll tax, and has come to be regarded as slightly passe."

So...what you are saying is...the historic 2010 election didn't happen? That somehow people who don't feel that the government is the solution to all our problems have now seen the error of their ways and will ride off into the sunset?

What a hack. What a hack you are: Josh Green. Where in the hell did you get your degree?

"The best explanation could be that the diverging views of Ron Paul actually reflect different understandings of what a vote for him would signify."

How about this explaination: He is a champion of the Constitution. He has gone against almost every measure in Congress, which now has between 9 and 19 percent approval ratings. He fortold the real reasons of our economic collapse and the errors of foriegn intervention. The Tea Party folks couldn't gravitate toward a specific candidate because they've been divided by the media. Now they are starting to see through your spin, lies, and propaganda.

You, so called 'journalist', are soon to be out of a job. You wonder why your print media is dying, your ratings are dropping, you are losing revenue. It's because, although there used to be a free press, it has been turned into propaganda and has subverted the American political process. Josh Green, you are worse than Blagojevich.

I can't wait until Ron Paul takes the Republican nomination as well as the White House, despite your treasonous attempts to subvert it...and I can't wait until we take the Senate in 2012.

Slammy

December 29, 2011 1:42 PM

Ron Paul is the only one to vote for... unless you want more debt and more war!

erik

December 29, 2011 1:42 PM

This is a poorly written article, and clearly slanted. I think Ron Paul would make a fabulous president, regardless of his age. He also made a brilliant move choosing to side with a major party, rather than the vastly underrepresented Libertarian party. With the winner-take-all system, it's really his only shot.

EarthMan

December 29, 2011 1:45 PM

More yellow journalism to stoke the popcorn maker for the entire political circus - Ron Paul or no Ron Paul (something about his "integrity" is just too damn pat).

Doesn't matter anyways. This country is doomed regardless of who the president is.

It's hilarious and disgusting at the same time so excuse me while I laugh between pukes.

Doug

December 29, 2011 1:45 PM

People are sick of Dem vs. Repub. People are sick of spending tax dollars on futile and endless wars that only benefit those in position to secure government contracts. People are sick of not feeling like they are being represented by there leaders. Despite Rob Paul's personal beliefs he is the only GOP presidential candidate who I believe actually takes his oath to protect the constitution seriously. He is the lesser of the evils, the best change for reform we have.. Obama failed, this may be the change we need.

nader paul kucinich gravel mckinney baldwin ventura sheehan perot carter

December 29, 2011 1:45 PM

both parties are corrupt to the core

as is the criminal controlled media

Carl J Baldridge

December 29, 2011 1:45 PM

There is obviously a conspiracyng of power within the ranks of the 0.01% and David Rockefeller among others has admitted to it.The 99.99% must work together to counter this oligarcy; especially within the MSM.The differences within the 99.99% can be dealt with. Ron Paul 2012

Gary

December 29, 2011 1:46 PM

A better title for this piece would be "Why Business Week Doesn't Matter". Romney has everything it takes to be the GOP nominee, except the support of Republican voters. BTW, Ron Paul offered chip in to pay for the Mother Teresa medal out of his own pocket, and challenged his colleagues to do so as well. Typically, they chose to be generous with the public's money, but not their own.

Timy Tebow

December 29, 2011 1:47 PM

Ron Paul is actually not an isolationist. He is a non- interventionist. The difference being that he only supports war if congress actually declares it per article 1 section 8 of the US constitution. (remeber that?).

Banished Jester

December 29, 2011 1:49 PM

The strangest thing about this mess is that Ron Paul is doing it right. Other debate candidates spit opinions. Dr. Paul is quoting our intelligence agency. Why are any people refusing to look at the facts and cite sources we pay for good information? Why would people believe Romney or anyone else? Why not trust the intelligence we pay for through our tax dollars? What makes Romney, Perry, Gingrich or anyone else more of an expert than our intelligence apparatus? Dr. Paul is not above citing sources, why should anyone else be? Should reason govern this election the choice is already made. Ron Paul 2012, beginning of the re-emergence of American affluence.

William Malan

December 29, 2011 1:51 PM

Here's a possible scenario for you Mr. Green.

People are tired of undeclared and interminable wars that leave the "helped" countries in worse shape than before the war. Cost to US? Thousands of lives and a trillion or so dollars.

So, while hard core and establishment journalists and politicians of all stripes will demonize Ron Paul, people who are antiwar and pro-common sense may support him, even though they do not embrace his views.

There is simply nobody in the Democrat or Republican parties who is not "pro war". We don't need a third party; we need a second one - or at least a second perspective on the US role as protector and interloper of the world.

BongoMongo

December 29, 2011 1:51 PM

More yellowy buttered journalism for the popcorn fed political circus - Ron Paul or no Ron Paul (something about his "integrity" is just too pat for my tastes).

Doesn't really matter anyways who the next president is. This country(?) is doomed and has been doomed since it's inception.

It's hilarious and disgusting at the same time, so pardon me while I vomit between laughs.

DoYouGetPaidToWriteThisStuff

December 29, 2011 1:52 PM

The only thing this article has proven is that you know how to use a spell checker. There's no substance, fact or context.

You're giving college grads a bad name and making it harder for the ones that truly have an education.

kevin t

December 29, 2011 1:52 PM

Wow I really can't believe this @Joshua is a true journalist he deserves absolutely no credibility or respect and as you can see from the comments the people can see right through every lie you tell. Even if your lies were effective they wouldn't last long after someone did something like watch a Ron Paul interview or speech which. Check out Ron Paul and follow @JoshuaGreen on twitter only to laugh at the number of followers who consider his journalism credible. Sorry whoever payed Joshua to do this wer'e all still voting for Ron Paul.

Nick

December 29, 2011 1:52 PM

I think it's hilarious how the media has already painted Romney as our candidate, even before the votes have been cast. It will be impossible to downplay Ron Paul's campaign throughout the whole election. Let's hope for a better future.
Ron Paul 2012

Forozio

December 29, 2011 1:52 PM

More yellowy buttered journalism for the popcorn fed political circus - Ron Paul or no Ron Paul (something about his "integrity" is just too pat for my support).

Doesn't really matter anyways who the next president is. This country(?) is doomed and has been doomed since it's inception.

It's hilarious and disgusting at the same time, so pardon me while I vomit between laughs.

Jack

December 29, 2011 1:53 PM

Ron Paul Slander Exposed!!

http://slander.revolutioni.st/

Post this link wherever you can! Together we can inform the public and stop the media propaganda in its tracks!

RON PAUL 2012!!!

Warren

December 29, 2011 1:54 PM

Compete garbage. It's so difficult for dems and repubs to understand Americans have had enough of the Obusha era. We're finished, regardless of how often you call Ron Paul "crazy" or "fringe." Accept the fact that Yale and Harvard produced the dynamic duo of debt. It's time for someone with basic math skills to balance this check book and put government in its place.

john

December 29, 2011 1:57 PM

Ron Paul is going to win in Iowa and gain traction in other states because the way the country views our problems have changed. Is the voice of reason in a sea of insanity.

julius

December 29, 2011 1:58 PM

you know what I love about morons like this who write garbage like this? It just made me go down to my closest election precinct and register to vote for Ron Paul in the Primary.
The more they blab, the more support Ron Paul gets.

fluidkarma

December 29, 2011 1:59 PM

If Ron Paul wins Iowa it makes the "mainstream" media irrelevant, because you liars don't dictate reality anymore!

Brad

December 29, 2011 1:59 PM

HAHAHA! I LOVE this!

Keep this kind of crap coming! The more you try to marginalize Ron Paul at this point, the more obvious it becomes how controlled everything is in this country, including the media.

In your desperation, you are shooting off your own toes, and I find it friggin' hilarious to watch! :D

The people aren't buying this crap.

danbeaulieu

December 29, 2011 2:02 PM

One thing is certain of Dr. Ron Paul, he is not a sound-bite candidate. That is, he often speaks over the heads of voters which causes a lack of understanding. It is in my personal opinion that Ron Paul cannot be understood in the 30 seconds allocated to him in debates. His ideas must be studied; however, once one does understand Dr. Paul, they often stick around.

For this reason I present to you my series: Understanding Ron Paul

http://danbeaulieu.blogspot.com/2011/11/understanding-ron-paul.html

Dave

December 29, 2011 2:03 PM

Mr.Green, a 60 year old blue collar guy who fixes air conditioners for a living here. Mr.Paul is not out of step with the Republican Party, the Party is out of step with the Constitution. We are sick of endless war and assaults on our liberties like the Patriot Act. The party establishment would do well to read their platform of 1936 and see what they once stood for. Look at Romney's and Paul's positions and tell me based on the the 1936 platform who is closest to what real Republican Conservatism represents.

Jaran

December 29, 2011 2:04 PM

Ya your right Ron Paul cant win cause what we need is more wars, more loaning to banks at 0% who then turn around and loan it back to govt for profit, more govt printing money and "spreading it around", more freedoms taken away - you know the usual.

We need the status quo people!

Pmac

December 29, 2011 2:14 PM

Like always, leave it up to the comments section to genuinely show the real opinions of real Americans. Sometimes I think it would just be better if they posted an empty article.

Mike

December 29, 2011 2:16 PM

Joshua Green have spoken a like a sore loser... or wait you are!


Michael Bruce

December 29, 2011 2:18 PM

(SIGH)
1. For the millionth time, Ron Paul is not an isolationist. Isolationism means you want to cut yourself off from the world. Non-interventionism (Paul's position)means that you don't go around the world starting fights for no good reason. Non-intervention is completely different from isolationism and is a good thing. War, on the other hand, is always destructive--even in the cases where it is necessary.
2. "These positions. . .would probably disqualify him were they better known."
They aren't his positions, they're what you're accusing him of. And everyone is well aware of the accusations. You're doing a good job of that!
3. You'll keep discounting Iowa until Paul wins, then it'll become Rhode Island that doesn't mean anything. Why won't you just accept that you have no control over this, and that it's the voters who will decide? It's obvious you're simply trying to cast doubt and influence the results.

Deanst

December 29, 2011 2:19 PM

Hey Green - I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public.

Report news, don't invent it...It's OUR election, we'll decide what matters and what doesn't. What happened to journalistic integrity?

At least attempt some originality in your story. Jeez, you just plagiarize the other scared clowns! C+ for effort, F for originality. You're supposed to jump on the bandwagon with a refined slickness - not leap off a tree and miss it! And get a better logo - Red/White/Blue? Try some yellow.

Neil Elliott

December 29, 2011 2:19 PM

hahahahahahahaha Love it.

Rey

December 29, 2011 2:19 PM

It's absolutely ridiculous the lengths that the media will go through to influence elections.

Amazedatallthis

December 29, 2011 2:20 PM

This is all ridiculous. Paul needs to take responsibility for the comments given the facts. His ardent supporters may be frustrated with the political status quo and see him as a breath of fresh air but he is unfit to be POTUS. Unfortunately for all of us there are no viable candidates. Obama is the best choice of the current field and will win. End of story.

Herbert

December 29, 2011 2:21 PM

I have found there to be an SECRET equation to this:

IF (author's name is Jewish)
ANDIF (author's subject matter)
AND (bad news)
THEN (subject matter)
EQUALS (opposite)

This means that Joshua Green's secret message is Ron Paul's Iowa win DOES matter. Thanks Josh...we have translated secret code.

But we shouldn't relax and rest on our laurels, we must continue our fight until November 2012.

Barry

December 29, 2011 2:33 PM

Excuse you, but the last two presidents won the Iowa caucuses: Barack Obama and George W. Bush. Let's be honest, the only reason why they are saying "Iowa doesn't matter" is because they are trying to destroy Ron Paul. This is totally outrageous. Even if you destroy him there will still be Rand and he WILL win! One way or the other, a Paul will go to the White House and this movement will be vindicated.

lynel

December 29, 2011 2:36 PM

Funny that the comments post are more accurate and more thought out than the author whole article... Disgrace

Colram

December 29, 2011 2:42 PM

"Paul has been written off because Washington observers assume that no one could survive such ugly revelations."

Joshua Green, are you amazingly uninformed, or are you just a terrible liar? The media has been struggling to write off Ron Paul since he first declared his candidacy, it has nothing to do with these current smear attempts.

vman2003

December 29, 2011 2:45 PM

"Why a Paul Win in Iowa Won't Matter" ? Coz Joshua Green says so... lol

thesauce

December 29, 2011 2:45 PM

Ron Paul 2012.


Last chance for non-violence.

Ryan

December 29, 2011 2:47 PM

And the brainwashing begins. The media is run by corporations, therefore a Ron Paul type president would be bad for them. THINK FOR YOURSELVES PEOPLE, DON'T LET THE MEDIA TELL YOU WHAT TO DO OR WE ARE ALL DOOMED.

TelltheTruth

December 29, 2011 2:51 PM

Hmm, is Joshua Green Jewish? Is this yet another attack on Ron Paul because he doesn't want to give our hard-earned tax money to Israel (which Netanyahu agrees with BTW)??? ...YES
(yawn)

KittenJuggler

December 29, 2011 2:57 PM

I don't know what I could possibly say that hasn't already been said about this "article". The Media totally supported Stalin, Hitler and all the other Fascists. This is just weird.

John LaGrua

December 29, 2011 3:59 PM

Nasty and shallow work, a desparate attempt to present a stream of misrepresentations of Paul as a man and a candidate who towers over Romney and will make short shrift of Obama.Kipling phrased it well in "IF" "To hear the truth you have spoken twisted by knaves to lay a trap for fools"Romney contiues to pander to the neo-con ,Isreal Lobby over Iran.More war ,INSANE !

Bert Taylor

December 29, 2011 4:06 PM

Dear Real Americans :

I just read a letter
Posted by: Joshua Green on December 29, 2011
In the last 40+ years I have been in 48 states, as a Driver I meet all kinds of people, Working Men and Women, young kids starting out in warehouses, factories, land fills, aerospace sites,mines, big business owners, struggling small new businessmen, and well to do successful business men who could buy and sell small countries. The reason that Ron Paul is so successful he has self respect and Honor. He doesn't try to impress people or Organizations with words and speeches, that sound fabulous re: "the Empire's new clothes" he speaks to the common man. That is what makes him SO popular!
Even people that can't read or don't understand big Government know his message, because Ron Paul keeps it simple and makes it easy to understand. He's doesn't try to impress anyone, except for what the Constitution says! All you pampas big wigs don't have the art of communication needed to sell the majority of the people on your latest scams.
Welcome to the "New American" God help us, and God bless Ron Paul !!!

Jeremy

December 29, 2011 4:09 PM

I disagree with this article completely, but I've also reconsidered my reply to this sort of article. I'm not gonna bag on the journalist for being unamerican or part of the system, because he too is an American. So Mr. Joshua Green, I'd like to extend to you the hand of AMERICA, it's amazing citizens and the growing feeling of "constitutional patriotism". I am inviting you to disregard anything youve written before or have been told to write. Stop following orders and follow yourself and the terms any true American would live by, the Constitution.

Daniel A P

December 29, 2011 4:32 PM

Joshua Green Sir, with all due respect Ron Paul winning the Iowa caucus is itself important. Interesting how the media is always so goo goo about Iowa then when Ron Paul is going to win then all of a sudden it is obsolete. Hello... We are all seeing right through this stuff now and it is over - the jig is up - enough said!

Kevin Alexanderman

December 29, 2011 4:35 PM

What a loser country. Americans chose the movies the critics approve of, and let the press tell them who to vote for.

Fran

December 29, 2011 4:38 PM

How much you get paid for this hit piece Joshy?

I hope it was worth it if Paul loses and our country goes even further down the drain...

What a poor, shameful excuse for journalism.

GMason1776

December 29, 2011 4:40 PM

"But most Republican caucus-goers in Iowa don’t have the same familiarity with Paul and still hold firm to the values that gave rise to the Tea Party."

Hear that Iowa. Lil' Josh Green doesn't think you're smart enough to understand Ron Paul's positions and also thinks you're passe for still believing in the principles that gave rise to the TEA Party. Voting your conscience and electing the only Constitutional conservative in the race (Ron Paul) will bring you only condescension from the elitists who demand that you support their choices for POTUS.

Fran

December 29, 2011 4:40 PM

How much you get paid for this hit piece Joshy?

I hope it was worth it if Paul loses and our country goes even further down the drain...

What a poor, shameful excuse for journalism.

Greg

December 29, 2011 4:44 PM

Until a few months ago I believed the media was, for the most part, unbiased and reported the news to me. I didn't care at all about Ron Paul, actually I had no opinion of him other than he was some old dude from Texas. But, after I saw the blackout and criminal treatment the media was giving this guy I had to find out what was going on. I learned of his message of liberty and peace. He represents all of the values I have. If not for the media coordinated effort to destroy this man I would never have found him. Thank you media, your corruption has opened my eyes to the first politician I will ever vote for in my life, Dr. Ron Paul.

Nathan Davis

December 29, 2011 4:46 PM

Nice try you establishment goons. Just because Ron Paul doesn't suck up to the neocons and the Zionazis who run this country. You ever notice nobody can go after him on the issues or voting record or overwhelming support from the troops, or... just keep orally defecating the same old "he can't win" argument. The people are rapidly waking up to the machine and they are getting nervous.

Dave P

December 29, 2011 5:04 PM

If Paul wasn't in the lead this article would never exist. The more the media hates on Paul, the more Liberal and Conservative Americans both love him. Terrible bias article, Josh please give up writing you are terrible at it.

JamesfromAus

December 29, 2011 5:38 PM

I'm an Australian, living in London, who has been following Ron Paul for a few years now. I read almost every article on him each day, and it's so amazing to see you guys realising and denouncing the absolute CRAP your mainstream media outlets produce. When Ron Paul gets elected, the U.S can set an incredible example of how a country should be run. Good luck Ron, and fellow commentators, PLEASE keep spreading the name Ron Paul.

Ryan

December 29, 2011 5:39 PM

Way to deligitimize legitimate American voters. This author is anti-democratic.

Secondly, this is a recycled piece from other MSM outlets. Thus the journalistic value of this article is zero.

Third, America knows that Bloomberg stands to lose a lot of money if Ron Paul wins.

This author has succeeded in confirming what we already knew. We need Ron Paul in 2012.

Thank you kind sir.

Ryan

December 29, 2011 5:41 PM

Way to deligitimize legitimate American voters. This author is anti-democratic.

Secondly, this is a recycled piece from other MSM outlets. Thus the journalistic value of this article is zero.

Third, America knows that Bloomberg stands to lose a lot of money if Ron Paul wins.

This author has succeeded in confirming what we already knew. We need Ron Paul in 2012.

Thank you kind sir.

John

December 29, 2011 6:42 PM

Shoddy work.If you believe Paul is loser why resort to slander and deceit.Just let the man soldier on in fantasy until he takes the oath of office on Inaurguration Day 2013.Romney will pander ,Bloomberg will emerge and spend but Paul is the man for the times and will leave them in the dust

Carrie Dodson

December 29, 2011 6:55 PM

Last election cycle my husband and I wrote in Ron Paul's name because he was the only candidate with a proven record voting our principals. Just as we admire Ron Paul for voting his principals, not for what he thinks will win, we too must vote our principals and we will finally have the leadership we deserve.

Adam O

December 29, 2011 7:37 PM

This article should be titled "Why the mainstream media won't matter". Ron Paul is going to win, and in the process he will expose all the corruption and corporate influence in the media. Freedom shall prevail!!

Brandon

December 29, 2011 8:43 PM

And my classmate's ex-wife makes $77 hourly on the computer. She has been unemployed for 7 months but last month her paycheck was $8154 just working on the computer for a few hours. Here's the site to read more...MakeCash18.com

Kurt O

December 29, 2011 8:55 PM

The only chance of change for the better is Ron Paul. You can only ignore and belittle the truth for so long. I am from Michigan and many if not most of the individuals I speak with are dedicated Ron Paul supporter. The Main stream media is just that, relevant only to the main stream 1%. The other 99% are rapidly joining Ron Paul.

kezza

December 29, 2011 9:36 PM

Here we go again, another story about how if Iwoa vote Ron Paul then it doesn't count. Comon mate, this is a rubbish story, I am an Aussie and this kinda crap coming from the US media, is so transparent that the real people in charge are running scared. Ron Paul's message is not just reaching Americans but all of us around the world. Who decided that America should police the world, and decide which countries should be destoyed. You have proven your agenda of the elite with the WMD's of Iraq, propagand a that would have made hitler proud. I love people, and I would love a peaceful world, and I would love a free America. Ron Paul offers probably the last chance for all these. We are all heading into a world of corperation law, and if you dont vote Ron Paul it wont be long until we are all slaves to the system. I am not even politically motivated, but I dont want to wake up one morning and be a slave. Ron paul has woken me and many others to the agenda of the few. Vote Ron Paul 2012!!! Australians for Ron Paul!!!

kezza

December 29, 2011 9:37 PM

Here we go again, another story about how if Iwoa vote Ron Paul then it doesn't count. Comon mate, this is a rubbish story, I am an Aussie and this kinda crap coming from the US media, is so transparent that the real people in charge are running scared. Ron Paul's message is not just reaching Americans but all of us around the world. Who decided that America should police the world, and decide which countries should be destoyed. You have proven your agenda of the elite with the WMD's of Iraq, propagand a that would have made hitler proud. I love people, and I would love a peaceful world, and I would love a free America. Ron Paul offers probably the last chance for all these. We are all heading into a world of corperation law, and if you dont vote Ron Paul it wont be long until we are all slaves to the system. I am not even politically motivated, but I dont want to wake up one morning and be a slave. Ron paul has woken me and many others to the agenda of the few. Vote Ron Paul 2012!!! Australians for Ron Paul!!!

kezza

December 29, 2011 9:38 PM

Here we go again, another story about how if Iwoa vote Ron Paul then it doesn't count. Comon mate, this is a rubbish story, I am an Aussie and this kinda crap coming from the US media, is so transparent that the real people in charge are running scared. Ron Paul's message is not just reaching Americans but all of us around the world. Who decided that America should police the world, and decide which countries should be destoyed. You have proven your agenda of the elite with the WMD's of Iraq, propagand a that would have made hitler proud. I love people, and I would love a peaceful world, and I would love a free America. Ron Paul offers probably the last chance for all these. We are all heading into a world of corperation law, and if you dont vote Ron Paul it wont be long until we are all slaves to the system. I am not even politically motivated, but I dont want to wake up one morning and be a slave. Ron paul has woken me and many others to the agenda of the few. Vote Ron Paul 2012!!! Australians for Ron Paul!!!

BManilow

December 29, 2011 9:53 PM

Sad. Ron Paul's an honest man. He doesn't play ball like the rest of Washington. JFK tried to end the Federal Reserve... look where he is now. Our Government/media is corrupt.

barney

December 29, 2011 10:11 PM

Soooo...this is what the Hah-vahd Skool of Joy-nawl-ism cranks out, huh? Well, Hitler had some PHD's on his payroll, too!

Jake TJ

December 29, 2011 10:20 PM

This column contains the precise combination of patronizing condescension and limited grasp of the facts that the public finds so infuriating about corporate media pundits in general.

"Paul has been written off because Washington observers assume that no one could survive such ugly revelations," opines Joshua Green. "But most Republican caucus-goers in Iowa don’t have the same familiarity with Paul..."

Really.

The other Republican candidates blithely discuss bombing Iran as if it's an option they would feel comfortable choosing out of a hat. After our $4 trillion debacle in Iraq, if that's not an "ugly revelation," I don't know what is. Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican candidate who says that, no, World War III is not something that he plans on starting. But this is fringe thinking, according to Joshua Green.

The reality is this: the Republican platform is completely crazy. Ron Paul is less crazy. The media, including Joshua Green, need to catch up to reality.

Jake TJ

December 29, 2011 10:21 PM

This column contains the precise combination of patronizing condescension and limited grasp of the facts that the public finds so infuriating about corporate media pundits in general.

"Paul has been written off because Washington observers assume that no one could survive such ugly revelations," opines Joshua Green. "But most Republican caucus-goers in Iowa don’t have the same familiarity with Paul..."

Really.

The other Republican candidates blithely discuss bombing Iran as if it's an option they would feel comfortable choosing out of a hat. After our $4 trillion debacle in Iraq, if that's not an "ugly revelation," I don't know what is. Ron Paul is the ONLY Republican candidate who says that, no, World War III is not something that he plans on starting. But this is fringe thinking, according to Joshua Green.

The reality is this: the Republican platform is completely crazy. Ron Paul is less crazy. The media, including Joshua Green, need to catch up to reality.

Mark

December 29, 2011 11:14 PM

They ignored him until he became a threat. The fact that he has done so well is good evidence that the American people are tired of puppet leaders who only care about corporate and defense welfare.

Ron Paul is not an isolationist. It only appears that way because Americans have become so accustomed to policing the world and all the fear mongering propaganda. Ron Paul is not anti-war. He feels that there should be a legal declaration, followed by a concise plan that prevents us from engaging in endless wars.

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December 29, 2011 11:30 PM

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December 30, 2011 12:58 AM

Be flattered, Ron Paul supporters.

See the stream of misrepresentation now being funnelled towards Paul?

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December 30, 2011 1:19 AM

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December 30, 2011 2:51 AM

Ron Paul and Buddy Roemer are the only ones even qualified to be running.

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December 30, 2011 3:31 AM

Americans seem oblivious to the perceptions the rest of the world has of them. Ron Paul is aware. It seems as an Aussie, following the man, that everything he says just makes so much common sense. Sound money. Diplomacy and trade rather than overseas bases and unconstitutional invasions. Individuals being responsible for them selves rather than relying on handouts. Oppurtunities that exist in a true free market. He has been so consistant for so many years. Although the media will contrive otherwise, he is surely the most principled, honest candidate. As an American ally and fan (I travelled there in the seventies) I pray for Ron Pauls success.

Soundscape

December 30, 2011 3:52 AM

If Romney has "the money, experience, and staff the other candidates lack, and enough dull appeal to remain competitive throughout" then why didn't that work in 2008? The way to win the Presidency in 2012 is with Ron Paul. He has the draw to win the general election. The Neoconservatives will take him over Obama, Independents will mostly take him over Obama, and real Conservatives will completely take him over Obama. Party line Democrats are obviously taking Obama, but that was a given. The less party line will sometimes take Ron Paul over Obama. The press talks about electability as an issue for Ron Paul, then they mention how his support seems to be heavy with Independents. Who decides elections? Independents. Romney is McCain II. If you want four more years of Obama, support Romney.

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December 30, 2011 4:52 AM

Hahaha pathetic .. biz weekly propaganda

MM

December 30, 2011 4:58 AM

congress and the national press would think he is a crank....both those institutions have contempt for the people and are run by the international warmongers society. Sick, peculiar world

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December 30, 2011 6:01 AM

What a joke. Mr. Green is dumber than a sack of hammers! Go Ron Paul, our nation needs you!

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December 30, 2011 7:50 AM

This article is poorly written from a journalistic viewpoint. This article loses credibility and becomes false. Report honest, researched, and thought-provoking news. Ron Paul has been surprisingly interesting and informative to research and listen to. I personally believe in him as our future Republican nominee.

Firozali A.Mulla DBA

December 30, 2011 10:27 AM

Joshua Green on December 29, 2011 I on Friday, 30 December 2011 Thursday the funeral and the son has already said he is going to follow the footsteps of the father. North Korea has warned South Korea and its allies the communist nation will not change course following the death of leader Kim Jong-il. On 10th anniversary, euro takes blame for economy Obama is quite on the issue of the Iran and the closure of the, if at all, Strait of Hormuze. Gee I feel we will have a black Christmas. I have no sick comment but I do feel very dizzy. One state is home to 11 of the 79 stores scheduled to be shuttered so far. Several game-changing events lay ahead in the coming year, but the end of the world isn't one of them Rick Tocchet pleads guilty to charges after failing to declare a large sum on his way back to the U.S. The underground complement to the World Trade Center memorial won't open in 2012 as expected The NBA legend makes this Christmas a memorable one as he proposes to his 32-year-old girlfriend A nagging scandal prompts the Spanish royal family to make an unprecedented public gesture Do not lie in a ditch and say, God help me; use the lawful tools He hath lent thee. George Chapman Wandering in a vast forest at night, I have only a faint light to guide me. A stranger appears and says to me: 'My friend, you should blow out your candle in order to find your way more clearly.' The stranger is a theologian. -Denis Diderot, philosopher (1713-1784) I thank You Firozali A.Mulla DBA

stovepipe johnson

December 30, 2011 11:27 AM

it matters to me if dr paul wins, thats all that counts. anything that comes out of " rat city " new york city is garbage.

Emilie Eggleston

December 30, 2011 5:01 PM

I just got an offer in the mail to subscribe to this magazine, so, naturally, I decided to come and see if any of the recent articles caught my eye.

Yep, this one. And guess what? You're not getting my money.

What a poor article. tsk tsk tsk

Bill Dixon

December 30, 2011 5:08 PM

Lets look at it this way Mr. Green. As a nation we are flat out broke. We are about to face some very very hard times. If we keep Obama or god forbid get Romney status quo then that will be the end of us for sure. If Iowa goes for Dr. Paul they will have done this nation a great service and we all should beholding to them.

Pete7630

December 30, 2011 5:57 PM

I don't see a lot of comments supporting your story, Josh.

We can't wait for your take Wednesday morning ....

joe

December 30, 2011 10:15 PM

this is journalism?

Stan Lippmann

December 31, 2011 12:47 AM

"the caucus winner rarely goes on to seize the nomination, and is more likely to spontaneously self-combust like that unfortunate Spinal Tap drummer."
Pure BS, just the opposite is true, Who is this "journolist"? Green graduated from Connecticut College in 1994 and earned a graduate degree from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism in 1998. That figures, a "Chicago-style" scribbler.

Democrats

January 3, 2008 – Barack Obama (38%), John Edwards (30%), Hillary Clinton (29%), Bill Richardson (2%), Joe Biden (1%)[15]
January 19, 2004 – John Kerry (38%), John Edwards (32%), Howard Dean (18%), Dick Gephardt (11%), and Dennis Kucinich (1%)
January 24, 2000 – Al Gore (63%) and Bill Bradley (37%)
February 12, 1996 – Bill Clinton (unopposed)
February 10, 1992 – Tom Harkin (76%), "Uncommitted" (12%), Paul Tsongas (4%), Bill Clinton (3%), Bob Kerrey (2%), and Jerry Brown (2%)
February 8, 1988 – Dick Gephardt (31%), Paul Simon (27%), Michael Dukakis (22%), and Bruce Babbitt (6%)
February 20, 1984 – Walter Mondale (49%), Gary Hart (17%), George McGovern (10%), Alan Cranston (7%), John Glenn (4%), Reubin Askew (3%), and Jesse Jackson (2%)
January 21, 1980 – Jimmy Carter (59%) and Ted Kennedy (31%)
January 19, 1976 – "Uncommitted" (37%), Jimmy Carter (28%) Birch Bayh (13%), Fred R. Harris (10%), Morris Udall (6%), Sargent Shriver (3%), and Henry M. Jackson (1%)
January 24, 1972 – "Uncommitted" (36%), Edmund Muskie (36%), George McGovern (23%), Hubert Humphrey (2%), Eugene McCarthy (1%), Shirley Chisholm (1%), and Henry M. Jackson (1%)[16]

[edit] Republicans

2008 – Mike Huckabee (34%), Mitt Romney (25%), Fred Thompson (13%), John McCain (13%), Ron Paul (10%), Rudy Giuliani (4%), and Duncan Hunter (1%)
2004 – George W. Bush (unopposed)
2000 – George W. Bush (41%), Steve Forbes (31%), Alan Keyes (14%), Gary Bauer (9%), John McCain (5%), and Orrin Hatch (1%)
1996 – Bob Dole (26%), Pat Buchanan (23%), Lamar Alexander (18%), Steve Forbes (10%), Phil Gramm (9%), Alan Keyes (7%), Richard Lugar (4%), and Morry Taylor (1%)
1992 – George H. W. Bush (unopposed)
1988 – Bob Dole (37%), Pat Robertson (25%), George H. W. Bush (19%), Jack Kemp (11%), and Pierre DuPont (7%)
1984 – Ronald Reagan (unopposed)
1980 – George H. W. Bush (32%), Ronald Reagan (30%), Howard Baker (15%), John Connally (9%), Phil Crane (7%), John B. Anderson (4%), and Bob Dole (2%)
1976 – Gerald Ford and Ronald Reagan

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December 31, 2011 10:08 AM

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December 31, 2011 5:19 PM

The fact that BusinessWeek has hired this shrill globalist cunt, a castoff from the Atlantic, has inspired me to cancel my subscription. Bye-bye Bloomie!

Estrella Eguino

January 1, 2012 3:34 AM

]Why Ron Paul' this and that headlines sound fabricated for the intention of brainwashing. This article is a joke. Either you people don't know nor care what America thinks - which put you in a rather ugly, pompous view in my humble opinion or your boss gets to pick for publications the articles that suit his pockets. Either way your stupidity is going to cost you.

Estrella Eguino

January 1, 2012 3:36 AM

]Why Ron Paul' this and that headlines sound fabricated for the intention of brainwashing. This article is a joke. Either you people don't know nor care what America thinks - which put you in a rather ugly, pompous view in my humble opinion or your boss gets to pick for publications the articles that suit his pockets. Either way your stupidity is going to cost you.

James Turk

January 1, 2012 6:51 AM

"Why a Ron Paul win in Iowa want matter" More good propaganda. By the way who made you god. How do you know what matters? How do you know what all Americans are thinking? This kind of crap really needs to be ignored.

Ty Price

January 1, 2012 12:37 PM

Ron Paul will be elected in one of the largest landslides in history against Obama precisely because he is exactly the opposite of Obama. This is a clear case between Capitalism vs. Socialism, Freedom vs. Slavery, and life vs. death! All other republican candidates are to a much greater extent socialist especially Romney! That is why Paul is dominating. Right now. If you understand how ideas drive history you can clearly see that it is all of the freedom-oriented candidates vs. the complete socialist Romney. The only reason Gingrich surged is because people thought he was not a socialist too, but when they found out he plummeted. For voters Its just a matter of finding out what Paul really said and his true ideas and waking up to the understanding of liberty, freedom, capitalism, and individualism for the first time and you have the unstoppable phenomena that is sweeping Paul into the Presidency of the United States!!

You have witnessed Ron Paul’s campaign organization accomplish the waking up of Iowa voters! He did that in spite of the media and the neocon socialist republican leadership establishment. His campaign effectively marginalized them! When he moves into the next state New Hampshire it is just repeat process! He is now and Romney is all ready plummeting and Paul is rapidly rising!!! Obviously when all the other semi freedom candidates drop when Paul wins in Iowa their supporters will be added to Paul!. It is going to be one of the biggest landslide victories in republican primary history. It could be as high as 75% Paul to 25% Romney!

You are getting passed by...by logic, reason and ideas! People don’t just like Ron Paul they like Ron Paul because they are discovering the ideas of liberty, freedom, capitalism and individualism for the first time! Don’t you think it’s time to wake up yourself???? If you really want to understand read this booklist in order! http://66.147.244.196/~theinvio/?page_id=1388 The blog is not well written but the booklist is right on!

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January 1, 2012 2:07 PM


Ron Paul on reversing bailouts:
Good quote:
"We owe, like, $1.6 trillion because the Federal Reserve bought that debt, so we have to work hard to pay the interest to the Federal Reserve," Paul said. "We don't, I mean, they're nobody; why do we have to pay them off?
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Since this quote, the limited Fed audit showed it to be a $16 trillion dollar bailout ..... So far.....(10x the earlier estimate). That is Approx. $130,000 per US taxpaying household!

Won't see Romney, Obomney (same guy, different suit), or any of the others suggesting this......why.....because they are bought and paid for, just like mainstream media.

End the fed! Ron Paul Revolution!!!!

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Romney recieved 90% of his donations from corporations, largest contributor being Goldman Sachs. Why won't Romney disclose his financials? Maybe he owns some of the bailout banks?

Obama just nominated a former bush guy and one of Tim Geithner's  advisors to the federal reserve board........these guys don't care about us people, they care about only themselves

Time for a Ron Paul Revolution!!!!

A vote for Ron Paul is a vote for freedom for all people.'a vote for any other, is a vote for your greedy criminal captors that will leave us all destitute and under fascist rule....wake up and see the thievery!!!

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January 1, 2012 2:17 PM

If Ron Paul doesn't win it all by an overwhelming landslide, something is very wrong with our country

sasha lemure

January 2, 2012 1:54 AM

Is it just a coincidence or is every hit piece on Dr.Paul written by a Jewish author?

John M

January 2, 2012 2:53 AM

"many of Paul’s positions, such as his isolationism..."
And you call yourself a journalist? This article is garbage, just as you are at your job. Slander and businessweek propaganda from a horrible post.

Avoided.

Oran Mills

January 2, 2012 11:07 AM

You call yourself a journalist?
This isnt journalism, this is propaganda garbage!
Ron Paul is the only logical choice period,
No other person has the skill, ability, and direction that Presidential Nominee Ron Paul can bring!
RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT 2012 !

jJunglemutt

January 2, 2012 2:43 PM

I thought all the pseudo-journalists worked for the NYT, and that Business Week hired professionals. Josh, you are an exception, have you considered the NYT, because with you misstatement of facts and other misinformations, you´d fit right in at NYT.

Ron Paul is perceived as a threat against the conventional political machines, both the GOP and the Party of the Poor, hence, the constant attack pieces.

jdogg

January 3, 2012 1:23 PM

Paul is not isolationist, idiot. He is a NON-INTERVENTIONALIST. there is a significant difference. he believes in cleaning our own house is more important than cleaning others'. wake up and please write more informatively.

mer44

January 3, 2012 5:04 PM

Isolationist is a term being used because Paul refuses to attack Iran,and wants to get out of Afghanistan. I don't feel the least bit threatened by Iran (nor Iraq either). So who really wants to vote for a candidate who wants to lead us into another Middle East war? Perry? Romney? Bachman? Gingrich? These are all candidated who are ready to go to war with Iran.

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January 3, 2012 8:45 PM

I love it! All people like you do is motivate me even more to go out and vote for Ron Paul!!

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When I read The Economist of August 6th to 12th 2011, “Finding Britain’s Bill Gates”, Page 23-25I wonder why this article was written at this time. No I am not pessimist, but the sarcasm stays. Why did he leave for USA, built the empire and forgot UK. The government can help, be able to, is an enormous word. Why not now, when Indians working hard in UK, took the Silicon Valley to Bangalore, India. History does not give another chance, you have it or you lose, it. Crying over the spilt milk has no way to write say, hear of this. The first idea that the child must acquire is that of the difference between good and evil.
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I thank you Firozali A.Mulla DBA

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January 5, 2012 12:38 AM

My dear (sigh), fellow-American self-professed journalist, please read the comments you have received and learn from them, learn well, for you will need them for future success.

shawn

January 5, 2012 2:01 PM

america is up and ready to answer the bell...you've kicked the liberty beast, you think you can pull my teeth and declaw this animal.....step up mr. rothschild...this time......no sleep til london!!!!! We've had it. ron paul 2012...cia and all the brainwashed morons taking orders from the cfr...you touch our RON PAUL and all will be settled...watch this also....youtube NYPD POLICE TRANSMISSION MURAL VAN MOSSAD.

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January 17, 2012 5:53 PM

Ron Paul will win! your brain washing trying to stop the majority from voting for him in fear of wasting a vote shall not work the people are awake.I would rather waste a vote on Ron Paul if you cheat and rig the election than waste it on one of unfit candidates you Corporate media conglomerates tries to brain wash on electing.

Thrand

January 17, 2012 5:54 PM

Ron Paul will win! your brain washing trying to stop the majority from voting for him in fear of wasting a vote shall not work the people are awake.I would rather waste a vote on Ron Paul if you cheat and rig the election than waste it on one of unfit candidates you Corporate media conglomerates tries to brain wash on electing.

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