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Pure Web Video Brutality

Posted by: Jon Fine on January 31, 2008

At least it seems like that if you try to get through the entire thing. Ex Gawker-ite Choire Sicha and I, uhm “clash” on a new-ish and very rambling episode of

This next bit is a tad more . . . caloric, at least, as I attempt to articulate an argument that Bill Clinton's campaigning skills were forged in a different media climate and are thus slightly out of touch with today's environment:

The masochists in the audience can try to get through the entire seventy-minute semicatastrophe here.

We talked about an awful lot of stuff that's so far down the rabbit hole of bizarre non-in-jokes and stuff-of-interest-to-very-few-people, but I think I can actually agree with Choire on this following point, at least:

Reader Comments

mike mitchell

February 1, 2008 11:00 AM


Big of you to critique yr own blog. You missed the most important error you made though. Liza Minnelli is not from the "You Tube" generation nor is she from the Judy Garland generation. She came "from" Judy Garland herself, being her daughter, and is a living, possibly tech-savvy, member of the baby-boomer generation.

Jon Fine

February 1, 2008 4:02 PM

First of all, thanks for sitting through the video in the first place. Second of all, I agree with some of what you say: In my early morning haze, I mangled this phrase (and many others). I meant to say liza comes from the Judy Garland _tradition_--as in, very old-school Broadway. Not sure that kind of old-school showmanship (womanship? personship?) translates well to the younger generations of today.

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