Will India Be a Big Winner in Google-China Fight?

Posted by: Bruce Einhorn on January 26, 2010

In case you missed it, check out the column by my colleague William Pesek Jr. on the spat between Google and China. He argues a big beneficiary could be India. Pesek writes, “China should be concerned about the most influential Internet tool bypassing its $4.3 trillion economy and 1.3 billion people — and the specter of other Silicon Valley giants following suit. Executives at multinational companies who dragged their feet on diversifying investments away from China may now expedite the process.” As for India, the country “has a track record of innovation and a stable of internationally competitive companies that China doesn’t. India also has far superior laws on intellectual property and corporate governance. And China’s willingness to blow off Google plays to India’s relative advantage in these areas.” India’s billionaires, he adds, “must be rubbing their hands together in glee as China’s leaders make an expensive miscalculation.” Read the whole thing here.

I’m not sure China would suffer badly from a Google exit, though. Pesek rightly points out that a world driven by knowledge flows, it is “vital to stay attuned to the latest developments in any field. Only then can innovators ride the latest waves in international business and finance and create the hundreds of millions of jobs needed to raise living standards.” Without Google.cn, will Chinese innovators be able to do that? I think so. Even if Google were to pull the plug on its Chinese-language site – which isn’t nearly as popular as Baidu’s anyway – the real Google site, the English-language one that so many of us depend on every day, would still be there. China’s unlikely to cut that off; censors would just continue to zap search results for taboo subjects like the Falun Gong and the Dalai Lama.

Pesek writes that China, unlike India, lacks “a growing roster of homegrown knowledge-based and technology outfits creating jobs, pushing the country up the value chain and inspiring young people to become the next Bill Gates.” He’s got a point. Despite years of effort, no Chinese company comes close to Indian software services powerhouses Infosys, TCS and Wipro. China does pretty well in other sectors, with companies like ZTE and Huawei globally competitive in handsets and telecom equipment, Shanda and Netease in online gaming and Alibaba in e-commerce. Lots of would-be entrepreneurs in China look for inspiration to Jack Ma, the former English teacher who founded Alibaba and in just over ten years has built it into a company with a market cap of $11.5 billion.

Reader Comments

Steven

January 26, 2010 10:16 PM

Businessweek's repuatation as a business mag largely damaged by authors like William Pesek Jr. and Gordon chang II, i.e, John Lee

A country like the size of China and India depends on their own companies. China has its own Baidu. India should count on its own similar company, not google.

World run great before the existance of Google. Also, the lifetimes of search engines usually don't last long. Yahoo is an example. Google is currently good at search engine, just like Yahoo several years ago, it does not have too much to brag as innovation. It currently has some advantages in internet resources, this could be gone quickly if a better search engine comes up ( I am pretty sure about this).

International investor

January 26, 2010 11:46 PM

William Pesek Jr. is a real jerk. It's obvious that this guy couldn't even spell China or India just a couple years ago but now pretends to be an expert in both, regurgitating what other biased American journalists have already said and believes in his own propaganda because his fellow American journalists are also saying it.

WTF

January 26, 2010 11:53 PM

Did you just post this blog to refute your colleague's article? You're making a biased point in a sneaky way. All the chinese companies you named at the end of your article have a LOCAL footprint. Forget global, they're not even international (except Huawei).

Junior

January 27, 2010 12:14 AM

Who is William Pesek Jr? Very impressive name. ;-)

roy

January 27, 2010 12:42 AM

This is such stupid article. China is building it's own google, it's own apple, its own national champions.

India is building nothing.

roy

January 27, 2010 12:42 AM

This is such stupid article. China is building it's own google, it's own apple, its own national champions.

India is building nothing.

Litcargork

January 27, 2010 1:22 AM

William Pesek Jr. said ” As for India, the country “has a track record of innovation and a stable of internationally competitive companies that China doesn’t."

Bruce, why do you even quote Pesek? It is obvious that this guy does not know what he is talking about. Outside of software outsourcing, Chinese innovation outpaces India in almost every field - from the number of patents filed to fundamental scientific research as indicated by the volume of research papers published in international scientific journals. Yet this myth that "India innovates but China doesn't" is repeated again and again in the Western media. How many "internationally competitive companies" can you name from India outside of those usual Infosys, Wipro or Tata? As for corporate governance, India has its own share of fraud like Satyam Computers.

NAZI propaganda minister Paul Joseph Goebells once said that when you repeat a lie over and over again, people will believe it. It seems that American media isn't a whole lot better than German media of the 1930s era.

Hans

January 27, 2010 1:37 AM

Roy has nailed it. China has Baidu and Alibaba. India has a Rediff that sometimes even posts an ever so slight profit, apart from that is has absolutely nothing. It is the call center of the West. What IT development is there is on contract basis.

Bruce

January 27, 2010 1:49 AM

Agreed, Roy.
I have bought a dell laptop and it was poorly manufactured. Called Dell several times and every time my call was redirected to India...the result is, I will never buy dell products again!!!

Truth Hurts

January 27, 2010 6:08 AM

Quote "As for India, the country “has a track record of innovation and a stable of internationally competitive companies that China doesn’t" -- I am really excited to learn about the track record of what India has invented, except "0" (very innovative have to say), Buddah (basically saying "give up now, wait till the next life"), and Chess (which was invented by Chinese at BC 200 in fact).

Looking at multinationals of China(ZTE, Huawei) and India(Wipro, Infosys), I have to admit they almost mimic exactly what the there two countries are good at respectively: Doing, and Talking for which India must thank 200-year British rule largely for their linguistic heritage. Isn't that ironic?

AS

January 27, 2010 8:21 AM

Roy, Bruce,Hans - you are all jealous of India. Obviously you bought a Made inChina Dell laptop so you hadto call for help. Made in China translates to lowest level of quality!! I never buy anything from China. Also, you all seem to be quite ignorant about India - your jobs must have been outsourced to India :-))

Andrew

January 27, 2010 9:13 AM

It's google wanting a piece of China, not the other way around. Google cannot afford losing China and still calls it a global company. Google's share price is like a baloon that is floated by a lot of hot airs, like China's presence. Have you checked google's stock price lately?

All

January 27, 2010 9:14 AM

What Pesek and Bruce mean is increasingly in the future a country that has greater 'soft-power' will be regarded as a superpower. China is excellent in hard economic numbers, but India is light-years ahead in soft power. As an example check out the site (http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/13/influential-business-thinkers-leadership-thought-leaders-chart.html). China with nearly 25% of world's population (even Chinese in the US are nowwhere), does not have a single entry. The list shows the thought-leaders who influence generations of people (that's soft-power). Look at India's influence across SouthEast Asia (Thailand, Malaysia, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, Indonesia, Singapore, Korea, Japan), you'll know. And very importantly look at India's influence in China itself (forgot Buddhism). The religion (from India) has influenced Chinese language and culture. That's soft power. It is this softpower that makes China so insecure. Everytime China brags about its superiority (it clearly reflects its attempt to cover its insecurity and inferiority complex). What is difference between Infosys / TCS / Wipro and a Baidu. Well Baidu is China's local search engine, but it is not the world's first search engine. Whereas Infy/TCS/Wipro are the companies that pioneered offshore outsourcing (that China is trying to emulate and miserably failing). That's softpower. The world's only successful film industry other than Hollywood is Bollywood. Shah Rukh Khan is recognised by 3 billion people across the world ( more than twice the entire population of China). That's softpower. So China what you have achieved in great, but once you be number one, the only direction you can move is down (as USA is doing now). 30 years back if anyone said that China will overtake USA, the Americans would think the person is crazy. But isn't that how Chinese think today when someone tells them that in time India will overtake China? Karma, is the wheel of life. No one country will remain in any position perpetually. So enjoy the journey while you can, and make way when you must.

siva

January 27, 2010 10:30 AM

Guys, History teaches us that no Dictatorial government has ever lasted more than a century. And china is not going to break that rule. The Chinese dont even know what they are not allowed to see. Freedom of information and expression are vital for all innovative society. India has it and will be very successful in the long term. China on the other hand will pay a heavy price for this.

Peter

January 27, 2010 10:39 AM

India has arrested its dissents in the past using Google provided evidences. Just google it and you'll find it.

Google did what came to do and is paving the way for Hilary Clinton political fanfare per their dinner prior to Google's ridiculous annoucement. Now Google is returning to their business as usual.

I would love an uncensored Internet in the world, but China, US, EU, and the rest of the world have their own laws restricting some and monitoring the rest on it.

Tim

January 27, 2010 10:45 AM

The majority of the work provided by Indian software services powerhouses Infosys, TCS and Wipro are low end programming work. It is the software equivalent of providing mechanics for the automobile industry. True innovation comes from automotive engineer, not automotive mechanics. To this day India does not have the human resource for software innovation. It may come in the future, but at least not now. Check this:

http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9134122/China_dominates_NSA_backed_coding_contest_

ash

January 27, 2010 10:46 AM

Ok, ok, this China-India spat is attracting its usual Han Jingoist. Bruce, however, has a point. As he states, he bought a poorly manufactured Dell, probably manufactured in China (as Roy puts it, India builds nothing). His problem, it appears, seems to be that his call was redirected to India. Or was that his real problem anyway?

ash

January 27, 2010 10:46 AM

Ok, ok, this China-India spat is attracting its usual Han Jingoist. Bruce, however, has a point. As he states, he bought a poorly manufactured Dell, probably manufactured in China (as Roy puts it, India builds nothing). His problem, it appears, seems to be that his call was redirected to India. Or was that his real problem anyway?

Tom

January 27, 2010 12:04 PM

I cannot believe that BusinessWeek does not know Google.com and Google.cn are different. Google.cn has only 1% share of search market in China. The rest comes from Google.com. Google does not tell the truth on the issue. For 1%, of course, it will threaten to pull out. But the very terrible thing is that Google uses hacking as an execuse. That is very bad and is it "no evil"? Please think about, readers.

krylov_subspace

January 27, 2010 12:29 PM

Hi

I live in Bangalore and have a PhD in EE. I have worked in 5 countries in the first world. I am no fan at all of Indian IT managers. I count many Chinese
profs and PhDs amongst my dear friends
and highly respect their professional
skills.

I have to say one thing in response. The number of patents filed out of India keeps rising every month as we speak. In the event in competitive disclosure shootouts I have seen my own students simply blow away 800 entries
from around the world. India has 150
year of Universities with deep
academic tradition.

The number of people in private and public universitys in EE and CS keeps rising. Yes in 2003 when I came back I would have dimissed Indian IT as a flash in the pan. Looking at the quality of my own students I really think statements like "India as a rediff
... sometimes profits". you are either highly opinionated with no professional understanding of Indian IT scenario
else you don't even read your own post.

The critical mass of engineers in this part of the world is VERY high. If you compare France , Germany etc. actually
they are a flash in the pan- without
any critical mass of grad students
or practicing engineers. Now there
is deep realization India has to do products and you might be unpleasantly
surprised at the sheer diversity of new
ideas one encounters esp. when dealing
with below 25 crowd which is most of
India's EECS workforce.

Let me tell you the U ot Toronto has a grad student strength of less than 100. With
that as critical mass Canadian universities simply will get overwhelmed
by the flood of new publications from
Bangalore or Shanghai. Whether India gains or not is upto the IT managers but
beware one thing innovation is no longer a monopoly of the West. Get real
most of the engineers there are due to
retire in 10 years time. Either way
technological development will move away
from Europe for sure. Pity researchers
in Germany are VERY good but in future
many of those will move to China
to work and learn Mandarin.

Marcos

January 27, 2010 12:40 PM

Right, like China needs investment from Google, or any other Silicon Valley companies for that matter... They are already staeting to EXPORT technology, and soon their companies will have presence all over the world. China is today where Japan was in the late '70s: just starting to turn the tables. Take for example BYD: while GM was so busy touting the Volt as the next big thing, Chinese BYD quietly developed and already started selling their own electric sedans, which may hit the U.S. streets before the Volt. Even though the Volt is in a different category (hybrid), the Chinese cars may have a big price advantage. In time: BYD's biggest investor is Warren Buffett...

marco

January 27, 2010 1:14 PM

No, Roy doesn't have it.

As much as I agree Google won't be missed in China, China certainly hasn't shown much for its efforts to make a new Google, IBM, or anything. Right now, innovation is still nonexistent in China. In India? It's inching along. China needs the help of foreign companies. It needs the help of foreign competitors because so far its shown that its own consumers aren't that tech savvy or wealthy and it's companies are much more deep into making working market rippoffs rather than doing anything.

Raaj

January 27, 2010 2:21 PM

Roy, et al.

Baidu came after Google, so did all cheap Apple-imitations. Name one significant invention besides cheap socks and all the walmart crap that come from China.

Call center mentality has given India a bad name but don't overlook the R&D and innovation that is happening. Most of the largest IT applications and even technology tools are built there, same goes with pharma and biotech innovation, and then agricultural products... hey I even heard that Reliance Oil is exporting oil too.

To me all these account for much more than creating a baidu or cheap solar panels. Now you can go buy some chinese stocks and even visit that country to eat some dog or cat meat... but Indian Economy will keep advancing.

Bruce - Dell should establish quality. I can say the same with the bmw models built in the US - but I blame BMW and not the american worker.

My two pennies.

Aj

January 27, 2010 2:38 PM

Lol at the nationalist trolls leaving such unbiased comments!

Sacramento

January 27, 2010 5:31 PM

The way the Western media makes it China will collapse if Google leaves China. If so why haven't they done so earlier if it is so easy to knock out a country that many see as a threat? Or is this just another case of Westerners thinking how everyone can't live without them?

Observant

January 27, 2010 9:48 PM

Whatever it is China has its own Google (Baidu), eBay (Taobao), QQ (instant messaging) , etc. What does India have as its own? Indian web entrepreneurship is hardly existent.The Indians just use other people stuff and unable to come out with their own. Indian companies like InfoSys has been around for ages but they are just software coolies for the West; try to name one indigenous Indian branded software?

Fact is India should be the last country trying to knock China about lack of brands, etc. India has hardly any brands to begin with be it in hardware or software. Fact is Indian industry is monopolised by a few rich families like the Tatas, Ambanis, etc who dip their fingers in every industry sector and actually dampen new entrepreneurship. Fact is the Indians are passive and as a whole lacking in entrepreneurship; you just don't find in India the prolific entreprenuership that abounds in China in every sector (e.g. car manufacturing).

C. H. Ng

January 27, 2010 9:59 PM

It's not surprising after centuries of western's domination of this world, a growing powerful China is a major concern to all westerners & their governments. This is natural as there are also frequent cases of friction going on between nations of the same race or culture & speaking the same language, whatmore now it's between a western culture & a Chinese culture and both don't speak the same language.

The way I see it, most westerners are either envy, jealous or fearful of China's growing influences...but not really on economically but more on politically. Because they know they need China (and the rest of BRIC) to pull them out of the financial mess they are in at the moment. But it's a dilemma for them as on one hand they need her help but on the other hand they fear her growing political influences. This is inevitable as in most cases, a "richer" person tends to talk "louder" than others.

Try as they might, I don't think they can stop an ascending China (and India). Though the western powers might be still dominating but it won't be total anymore.

Steven

January 27, 2010 10:20 PM

Huawei, as a Chinese company, files more patents than whole India as a country. Patent application in India has been decreasing for years. But some mouths are still talking about Indian innovation.

YYD

January 27, 2010 11:09 PM

Apparently, before Google entered China market, China was in stone age with no knowledge flow what so ever. So if Google leaves, then China will be plunged back into the darkness. BTW, just curious, how is unblocking pornography or FLG sites will increase knowledge flow?

ketaki

January 27, 2010 11:53 PM

It can never stop laughing when I read this line about Infosys, Wipro etc., doing "low end coding work". Maybe that's a good thing after all, to be underestimated. Infosys runs the world's largest employee education center in Mysore, training >25,000 employees at a time from 6 continents and >60 countries - including China. Indian consulting firms compete for the same pot of food as IBM, Accenture, Cap Gemini etc., and run full fledged consulting ops in the US going against the likes of McKinsey, Bain and Booz. Founder of Infosys, Narayanamurthy is a trustee of Cornell University - not bad for a low end coder right?

jim

January 28, 2010 10:30 AM

Popular music in the past sometimes provides lot of wisdom, lyrics such as '...if u want to leave, take good care, hope u meet lots of friends out there...', or advertisements such as 'u ask for it,u got it, Toyota'. Now, if Google wants to leave, go ahead, no one asked Google to go to China, no one is going to ask them to stay either, Google must have done its pre-market analysis first, right? What about the past 60 years of PRC history? A reader previously pointed out, Google just have a small market share, no big deal! Internet, Chinese foreign students, Chinese university graduates and lots of foreign reserve provide China a big cushion, they don't need us, not that much, we need them (to buy our American treasurys). Clear enough?

Howard

January 28, 2010 11:43 AM

Calm down everybody. IMHO, India gain in this will be close to nil. Why?
There are some reason why there isn't a R&D center in india today, even most indian claim that they are IT superpower. Google control over 80% of india search market as of today without a local R&D office. That is indian biggest disadvantage, why would Google want to do reasrch in india if they are already so dominant there. The existence of baidu remind Google that they need a local workforce to understand Chinese market and the fact that chinese company constantly outsmart foreign competitor fascinate Google. There are lesson and knowledge to be learn from local talent. On the other hand, No local IT companies from india can really standup to foreign competition. That tell google there is nothing new to learn from india.

Second, India lack talent(sorry that would anger lot of indian). Google tried to hire local engineers several year ago, but they cannot find enough good one to fill in. (don't believe me, just google it :-) The lack of high level talent drive the salary of IT persona to the roof.

peace4all1

January 28, 2010 1:54 PM

Before making any haste conclusion about the recent spat between Google and China abut cyberattacks, here is some interesting facts reported on today's NYTimes, http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/02/us/29cyber.html?hp.

Some key points: 1. China along with USA and Russia are three most vulnerable countries to cyberattacks.
2. The United States was identified most frequently as a potential source of cyberattacks.
3. In a survey of IT executives done by Center for Stragic and Internal Studies,http://csis.org/homepage, 36 percent named the United States and 33 percent China as the potential sources of cyberattacks.
4. China’s security measures also came in for praise from the executives.

Too bad, Mrs. Clinton opened her mouth about Internet Freedom before she got a chance to read this survey. Now let's hope that she could manage to get a clouser on this issue.

C. H. Ng

January 29, 2010 12:44 AM

Lets hope Google will really leave China and set up in India. And then we shall see how well they will do there and how much India can gain from China's loss.

New report from PriceWaterhouseCoopers predicts China will overtake USA as the world's largest economy by as early as 2020. Goldman Sachs in 2003 first made such waves by suggesting China will match US's economy by 2041; only to revise it to 2027 five years later. Please take note they were all predicted by western financial analysts, not by the Chinese themselves.

Some Indian loudmouths here claimed India can do the same and overtake China in 30 years time. I won't say it's impossible but to make a claim by yourself is tantamount to open bragging.
It's like claiming you are the best cook in the world but nobody has ever tried or tasted it. Anyway whatever it is, I doubt I will live that long enough to witness your claims. In a way I will say I am "lucky" as I will hate to see that day...if it really came true.

Henry L.

January 29, 2010 8:26 AM

I don't think India or China need Google. I have read posts regarding China and India and what I don't understand is why we in the West tend to fool ourselves that without us and our large coporations, China and India cannot progress. We tend to think that we are suprior in every way and thant thinking is enforced by people like Mr. Einhorn and friends.

sudh

January 29, 2010 11:08 AM

Tim, You forgot one thing most of the silicon valley startups started by indains those are from iit. Even Intel pentium chip invented by indain.
If you take any 500 fortune company there will be many indains in the top management.I am not comparing Chinese,US,Indai But saying indians also part of that (True innovation comes from automotive engineer)

Billboard

January 29, 2010 5:50 PM

I will respect Google if it does really pull out of China. Otherwise, it is just a nasty fat baby believing that the Earth would stop spinning without Google.
By the way, I have switched to bing and find out bing is pretty good. Tried some tricks from "Google Hacks", by Rael Dornfest; Paul Bausch; Tara Calishain on Bing, surprisedly, a bunch of them works with small change.

Low

January 29, 2010 9:26 PM

What Pesek and Bruce mean is increasingly in the future a country that has greater 'soft-power' will be regarded as a superpower. China is excellent in hard economic numbers, but India is light-years ahead in soft power. As an example check out the site (http://www.forbes.com/2009/10/13/influential-business-thinkers-leadership-thought-leaders-chart.html). China with nearly 25% of world's population (even Chinese in the US are nowwhere), does not have a single entry.


So Chinese are not on the list and hence there are no strategic or influential thinkers in China? India has so many ‘thinkers’ and ‘talkers’, what you need is more ‘workers. Yah, we are drones with no strategic thinking, yet America is falling to the knees begging us. Have you ever thought that maybe, this was planned all along?

Red

January 30, 2010 1:58 PM

The author's intention is to put quarrel between China & India. Because if China & India come together businesswise or politically then, it will be tough for the rest of the world...
(The white man is using again the Divide & Rule policy)--BEWARE PEOPLE!!

rob

January 31, 2010 8:13 PM

Sure China can try to make its own version of Google, Apple etc ..the trouble is they will be of such poor quality that no one will buy them.
China tries to make its own version of everything..including its own version of Honda SUVs (named HONGDA)... they sure look a lot like Hondas but fare worse than tin cans in crash tests.

@Howard

February 1, 2010 4:43 AM

This Economist article sums it up

The engineering gap
India’s tech workers are not as good as the country hopes and America fears

only 4.2% of India’s engineers are fit to work in a software product firm, and just 17.8% are employable by an IT services company, even with up to six months’ training.

http://www.economist.com/businessfinance/displayStory.cfm?story_id=15393732&source=hptextfeature

All

February 1, 2010 8:53 PM

Chinese obsession to GDP figures is foolish. I am sure lot of Chinese are waiting for the day when they Japan to become the world's second largest economy and of course the day when they would eventually overtake USA to be largest. This will give them reasons to brag even further. Very soon GDP itself will become an obsolete measure. Read http://www.time.com/time/business/article/0,8599,1957746,00.html. When this happens (West will make sure it happens sooner rather than later), China will again fall back to a below 50th position. I am sure the Communist Party comrades are already sweating. China would be most welcome to bark about its GDP achievement, while the world (the caravan) would move on. Go China! the GDP world is yours.

C. H. Ng

February 1, 2010 9:26 PM

Rob....sure China produces many cheap but poor quality products. So does your country, India, as well as my country, Malaysia. But still people will buy them because they are CHEAP.

You talked about China's Hongda which fare worse than tin can in crash test. How well is your country's Tata Nano? Or my country's Proton Saga car? Will they fare better? I doubt so. But they all can sell because of the price.

One thing for sure...Tata Nano is very cheap. China's Hongda is reasonable. Our Proton cars are not cheap & yet they are still the best sellers in our country not because they are very good but because our government taxed all other imported cars too high beyond most ordinary citizen's means.

Cheap imitations or what, many of us will still buy them. Like for example, nice handphone models sell about USD500 in my country whereas you can easily buy an average China made one for around USD70. Both can work fairly well except the latter is not branded. But for that kind of price, who cares?
So my friend...whether you will buy cheap Chinese products or not is your own business. But please don't try to speak on our behalf..!

@CH Ng

February 2, 2010 8:36 PM

You seem to lose no opportunity in defending / praising China. The reason you can criticize and still stay in Malaysia (perhaps even continue to have your Malaysian Passport), is because despite its negative points, Malaysia still has some semblance of democracy. Government criticism to some extent is tolerated. If you were in China, and praised the Dalai Lama or Rebiya Kadir, the Chinese communist party members would lose no time in tracking you down and putting you behind bars for treason against the state. If the Chinese can call a Chinese actress as 'traitor' for marrying a foreign actor, then your crime is even more grave. The Chinese are like Muslims. If Muslims are minority in a country, they demand and expect a secular state. If Muslims are a majority, they accept only an Islamic state.

Bloomberg

February 2, 2010 9:37 PM

I am Bloomberg user, I know this Pesek guy. He is a perpetual China bear. I don't think he likes India that much, he just tries to use it a thron to irritate China.

prady

February 4, 2010 10:10 AM

Most here would'nt know this. But the entire Google search engine technology and parallel processing architecture including Google Scholar was developed by a Computer Science Graduate student of IIT. He is now based in California.

Also check out how much of the US high tech industry has CEOs or CTO's of Indian origin. These are people with strong linkages to India and almost all these companies have Offices in India too. Texas Instruments, Nokia, IBM, Intel all have their biggest R&D centers outside US in India.

@Prady

February 10, 2010 12:01 PM

@ Prady,

I thought Google's search engine technology was developed by the Google's founder, Sergei and Larry. If the Indian guy developed the entire search engine technology like you said, how come the Indian guy is not the Google founder, if not one of the founders?

Is this one of the case of the well-known trait of the Indian people propensity of claiming credit?

Rupesh Kumar

February 19, 2010 12:22 PM

India has achieved all the name and fame because of the Indian and not because of the British, who took all the resources to fuel its colonial motives.
India was one of the first few countries who can boast of having international universities around the time of Budha. China has its own strength and it can fight on the basis of that. It does not need any Google or so for its survival.

C. H. Ng

February 26, 2010 9:00 PM

To the writer who attentioned me but didn't put down his/her own name:-

Think what you like or criticise whatever comment I raised here; I am only defending what I think it's correct. I am not trying to say everything about China & her people are perfect. Likewise I can't possibly say my country's made cars are good when they are in fact poor in quality. But I know my limit...for I too can be easily charged under ISA (internal security act) if I say bad about my government. Same like in Singapore or Thailand if you ever say something bad about her revered king. So what's the difference in this so-called democracy thing?

To say the Chinese are like Muslim people is totally ridiculous. There are many countries in this world where the Chinese are the minority but can you please tell me/us in which country the minority Chinese ever asked or demanded secular state?

Btw I just came back from a 2 weeks holiday in northern China. I didn't enjoy my trip this time due to the cold weather & the huge crowds as expected due the Lunar New Year celebration in China. And for your infor, I had quarrels & arguments with my host as well as local Chinese friends over my criticism on the local habits such as the way they simply spit on the floor / street, the way they bring up their single child like spoilt little emperor or princess, the oily & salty foods.. etc etc. I thought among good friends I can talk about such subjects but I was wrong. So my friend, whoever you are, nothing & nobody is perfect in this world. Here in this blog I am only defending what I think is right when the Chinese are concerned.

Zysha

March 20, 2010 3:44 PM

I guess China might be infront of India in many ways but it is just a bit of technology stuff.. Firstly , China just makes products that are crappy and would never work.. they are made with low quality.. secondly I feel google is the best and if it leaves china then china would suffer alot no offence it had many other offices in china and we know chinese economy can go back.. and as one of u were saying ''what has india invented'' Firstly we have got Noble prizes in many fields and We even have one of the most intelligent people india has the highest GMT score in the whole world.. its a beautiful place i mean it had like all 4 Seasons, It has Glaciers,Beaches,Deserts soo much and china is nothing.. its just trying to snatch Land from india.. google india's achievements we have alot of them and we have also invented.. so use ur brain and do something... OMG does china has famous leaders like Mahatma Gandhi whom the whole world from Hollywood to bollywood adore? Does China has a successful Film Industry?? NO :) Chinese Movies are Super crap.. Every Aspect of china is like EW :)

samuel welsh

April 6, 2010 3:59 AM

India do not do it

Bruised lee

April 26, 2010 9:43 AM

@Zysha
You are just making yourself a fool and even embarassed your own country men.
How could China be the No. 1 export country in 2009 if their products are crappy and would not work.
How do you explain why India import the most from China instead of US, Germany or Japan in 2009.
The obvious answer is China made products are value for money.
75% of the Chinese used Baidu instead of Google. Google has more to loose when she left China. Overnight, the Google stock price is below Baidu in the NASDAQ. Even then Google did not leave China entirely. It's R & D is still operating in China because they realised China produces a large pool of high quality IT engineers.
Don,t believe check this out on 2009 NSA OPEN COMPETITION FOR IT PROGRAMMER.
The Chinese dominated with 20 finalist follow by 10 from Russia. None from India and the champion is a 18 yrs old student from Shanghai.
Talking about IQ, Indian average IQ is 86 compared to Chinese 106. For the last 10 years Chinese students dominated the International Maths & Science; whereas Indian students are not even in the top 10 position.
China is now rank NO.4 most popular country to visit because of it's diverse culture and numerous world famous scenic spots. India is not even rank the top 15.
For goodness sake, please do some home work before you blow your own trumphet.

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September 18, 2010 3:57 AM

I love Google...

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