Is China to Blame for India's Cyber Problems?

Posted by: Bruce Einhorn on May 6, 2008

The U.S. isn’t the only country victimized by cyber espionage that is blaming China. Something similar seems to be happening in India, too. American military and intelligence officials, as several of my BusinessWeek colleagues published in a cover story last month, argue that China “is the U.S.’s biggest cyber menace,” a charge that the Chinese government denies. (For the full text of the Chinese response to BusinessWeek, see here.) The Chinese argue that in many cases they are victims of hackers, fraudsters and others cyber criminals based in other countries who take advantage of gaps in the Chinese security network to hijack computers in the PRC.

Now people in India are pointing the finger at China. The Times of India yesterday reported unnamed Indian government officials alleging China has orchestrated a series of attacks on sensitive networks of Indian agencies. “China’s cyber warfare army is marching on, and India is suffering silently,” is the lead of the Times story. “Over the past one and a half years, officials said, China has mounted almost daily attacks on Indian computer networks, both government and private, showing its intent and capability.”

Hard to say what to make of this story, which relies on unnamed sources. Maybe there’s something to this. David Utter, who writes at Security Pro News (where I first read about the Times story) thinks so: “Publicly, blame for such attacks tends to be spread around by government types. Hackers of undisclosed origins stand at the end of the finger-pointing of guilt. Privately, everyone knows exactly who is to blame. In India, research into attacks routinely found their origins in China.”

But maybe there’s some convenient fear-mongering here, too. Whoever it is who talked to the Times has a pretty clear agenda – convince the powers that be to provide more funding to boost India’s cyber warfare capability. As the Times reports, “Dedicated teams of officials — all underpaid, of course — are involved in a daily deflection of attacks. But the real gap is that a retaliatory offensive system is yet to be created.” (Emphasis added.) What better way to convince the Indian public that hard-working civil servants need more money? Say they’re protecting the country against the Chinese.

Reader Comments

Steven

May 6, 2008 10:05 AM

Why not! We Chinese understand them. When they tested their nukes, it was because of China.
When they started reform, it was because of China.
When they began SEZ, it was because of China.
For security reasons, they could block the deals from Huawei, and ZTE.
Foe security reasons, they even blocked airbridge for their ariport and paid the double price from Europe.
When they do political attack on India communist party, they point to China.

I am wondering: Is China becoming the center ot Indians' political life?

On the contrary, China seldom mentions India. Has China blocked any business particularly from India?

vishal

May 6, 2008 1:57 PM

India is weak and easy to intimidate just like its people. China is evil hiding under a panda face, they are 21st century nazis. TY Good night

YinduAsan

May 6, 2008 2:59 PM

Another "Iraq has WDM" foulplay in the making!

vijai

May 6, 2008 5:18 PM

In India it's not that easy to raise public sector salaries. A pay commission examines this periodically and revising the salaries is an extensive exercise. Besides such figures are published in the publicly available reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General of India. Just because a news itesm appears in print doe not mean that public servants will suddenly find themselves heavily compensated.

Wing Fang

May 6, 2008 5:24 PM

No, no, no... China is peaceful rise people! We victim of attack forever the time. You people monger fear against happy friendly people!

YinduAsan

May 6, 2008 8:35 PM

Three world's most notoriously credit-deficient sources contributed this story:

1. US military
2. India Media
3. Business News writers

The summary of the three together==ZERO credibility

chenleilili

May 7, 2008 5:37 AM

well,i think U.S.and westerners are so good at using China as a good "reason" for their poor performance in the government management or ecomomy improvment or anything else such as rice shortage{do not forget China does not need import rice although there is the largeest population in China},now come to cyber espionage issue,blame your inability against cyber criminals to China,is it alwys useful to fool your citizens?

Vivek Menon

May 7, 2008 6:38 AM

Its been long time since china started itching us. The next day when Nehru told to consider chinese as our brothers they attacked us and took a part of himalayas. They also attacked Tibet(Where poor monks praying for world's properity). Now they are inching towards India(Arunachal Pradesh), Taiwan vietnam. They cant attck others physically and hence they are now irritating everyone through internetwork. I would say chinese Govt is most fearful one compared to terrorist and pakistan for india. Basically chinese are nuissance for everyone and it is the only country where the economy,imports,resources still opaque. Chinese Govt are the reasons for Bird flu and Agricultural diseases spread over India and rest of teh world.

Vivek Menon

May 7, 2008 6:44 AM

Since chinese people's acces to outside world and news is controlled by its Govt, they are not knowing about the Mischievnous causing by their Govt to the rest of the world.

Aditya

May 7, 2008 6:47 AM

People, take a few minutes to read the Chinese response to Business Week story. Wang Baodong (nice name, eh?) of the Chinese Embassy repeats what is by now the most cliched (and the most dubious) diplomatic-speak of all time - "China follows a path of peaceful development, and unswervingly adopts a national defense policy which is defensive in nature". Really? Is China's shameless occupation of Tibet a manifestation of their "peaceful, defensive" policy? How about funding genocidal and corrupt regimes in Africa and elsewhere? And what exactly is the peaceful Chinese way off handling protest or dissent? Kill the protesters...jail them, torture them, isolate them, indocritinate them. The Official mouth-pieces (Xinhua etc.) of the autocratic administration in China constantly carp about the "lowliness and tawdriness" of the Tibetan culture but insist Tibet is a part of China. Yep, they are insects, but our insects. Nice!

pakimula

May 7, 2008 9:54 AM

The chinese communistsare a threat to world security, china needs to be invaded and it's people set free.

jcage

May 7, 2008 12:47 PM

Whenever Bruce Einhorn need to deflect criticism on himself because of his garbage articles passing as educated opinion, then Bruce Einhorn would try on of his tried and true "India vs China".
Bruce knows very well that it is "cue" for his India fan to attack China!
They are so obedient lackey! Like a parrot repeating "freedom", "democracy" and other slogan.
Good job Bruce, you got your minion well trained and they are good lackey to bark at the Chinese in general!

joke

May 8, 2008 1:25 PM

wondering why Chinese press never mention India ? because they know india is a joke, not to be taken seriously.

Why indian press always full of china, china ? because they are paranoid and they know they can't handle China in any aspects.

Katie Leung

May 8, 2008 1:42 PM

Dear Vivek Menon

Bird Flu started from South East Asia , why is China blamed now ? And if I am not wrong, India has one of the lowest sanitation level in Asia, the people's lifestyle, the rivers (that Holy river with dead bodies carcasses, animal eating dead body, millions people wash, bathe in that river), people peeing and pooing on the streets, litters on every corners of the streets, massive slums right in the centres of the cities, very outdated sewage systems in big cities, cattles and stray dogs on the streets fouling anywhere they want.

And I got all this information from a friend who just returned to Hong Kong from his 1 month long holiday trip to Indian cities, New Delhi, Bombaby and Hyderabad.

Rahul

May 9, 2008 9:58 PM

Hey "Joke",

The Chinese press is controlled by the government. Their main objective is to stir nationalism and Chinese-pride. How can they do that if they write negative stories regarding India's uprising?

Vivek Menon

May 15, 2008 4:00 AM

Dear Katie Leung,

First let me tell you that Even though India is not that clean as u say, it was the least affected among all countries(Including China), only because the way of Indians preparing food is different. See I blamed china because as per World Health organisation's(If am not wrong - Some General Body), It was mentioned as a mistake from chinese sceintists; and the statement proved itself as the worst affected place was china. And FYI Bird Flu is not due to "lowest sanitation level". It was a new desease being found recently.In history there is no such thing ever reported. May they(Chinese Scient) might have tried for some Bio-Weapon system. Gosh, who knows..!!

ansonceo

June 12, 2008 9:52 AM

Is China to Blame for India's Cyber Problems? : no

Ramanathan

July 24, 2008 1:37 PM

Vivek Menon could i speak more to u?
let me know.

Jet Li

December 31, 2008 10:02 PM

Indians as usual barking like scared dogs LOL!!

India is history's laughing stock.

Jeff

January 5, 2009 3:55 AM

Any media news from india is a copy cat sensationalising on popular trends.

Forget about India. What ever Steven has said from above is very true. For the past 20 years, whatever mentioned by India is always base on trend. When countries like US or China done it or the world talk about it rising the trend; the indian media and govt will after some time follow up on the same thing but this time its about india...givin its ppl some bollywood feel, the feel good element. if they can do it they will do it, but if they cant then they will hoha about it and its ALWAYS after the trend dies down where nobody talks about it no more.

Such a behaviour is like a "follower" of trend but never a trend starter. With such a mentality and unresponsible behaviour (it does not matter its a good thing to follow or just simply a blame game to fool their ppl to get some attention regardless of responsiblity) how do you expect india to lead? To set example and to inspire?

All the bad things the indian media always follow such as the blame game, the bashing but nv the good things. That why india nv learn and untill today it has become a tool/topic for western media like our BW friend here to play around and laugh at. Objective is to stir up the emotions and ego knowing well how these ppl behave.

Wat a pathetic state of affairs.

Like the saying goes "You are your own worse enemy"

Shyam

April 21, 2010 3:05 AM

i think India is Jealous of China development. Those People who are bashing against China are those who had never been to China. All those stuff such as freedom, domocrazy, press fredom etc is bullshit. And world knows democracy is failed in south asia.

If u point finger to others than all other fingers will point at you...... remember that.

LOL

September 21, 2010 1:09 PM

India is the biggest joke on the planet.

The famous Chinese proverb once said:
"Empty vessels make the loudest noise."

India is all big talk, but empty on action, content, and congruency.

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