How about a non-carbon global economy?

Right,
This is a very delicate question.
Please, ask www.mospay.com Shantanu Dash about this issue.
He has the US, Europe, India experience.

Global warming is psuedo science and equating with pollution is very clever way of mixing a very genuine concern with unproven global warming science and its effect on climate. Just some years back people were talking about iceage and Earth wobbling.today nobody talks about it.
global warming is taking place but it is due to carbon emissions is a big hoax .Global warming is taking place due to SUNS IRRADIANCE.Mars is getting heated up due to same reason and also in same proportion as earth.No humans and carbon emissions in Mars!!!
Also it was found by ISRO that glaciers in sikkim has grown fourfold from 21 to 84(during 2001 to 2007), a welcome thing for India.The recent extended coldweather and snowfall in himalayas is beneficial to India.
Sir, If global warming is realy a concern, then americans would have taken up the issue during the presidential debates.It is only for foolish browns like us and that is why it is not concerning americans and its leaders.If gore/Pachauri got their nobel, it is OK but let us be prudent.

First of all, we all need to get into habit of using less energy, as in recent years we have taken the energy generation for granted.

While lately more and more distribution and transmission issues are arising, we certainly look forward to great Engineering, Infrastructure and IT companies to put their brains together to optimize the generation, transmission & distribution of power and fuel.

We also need to look into why the costs of clean energy are so high. Every time subsidy or incentive should not be an answer to bringing the costs down. We must take a proper look at the value chain optimization for clean energy to bring down the costs.

We look forward to accomplished leaders like Mr. Nandan Nilekani to play more aggressive role in the global clean energy sector.

Thanks.

Geetanjali Patil Choori
Energy-Guru.com
Enable global adoption of renewable energy and energy efficiency.

Can India lead on Carbon capping? Lose the colonized dependent mindset.
Chithra Karunakaran, Feb 15, 2008

Nandan Nilekani's response about equitable carbon capping is excellent.

But I am going to mess with Nilekani's dependent mindset. Why is Nilekani being a crybaby and holding out quote, for a "GLOBAL CONSENSUS" on this issue? Are you saying Nilekani, that INDIA cannot act on its own to reduce its own carbon emissions with innovative public mass transit and other strategies? Why doesn't India LEAD (with action, not merely empty words from Infosys and TERI and others) in capping its own carbon? Why can't India, the world's largest democracy develop a model for carbon capping that is the envy of the world?

Why should India wait until everyone else agrees that carbon capping is a desirable strategy? Carbon capping is in the interest of India's own long-suffering masses who have to put up with India's own endlessly consuming elites with their excessive carbon emissions from their SUV's and AC's.

India has the knowhow, the resources and the public awareness to cap carbon NOW. Let India LEAD, let India's self-professed leaders lose their colonized, caste-hierarchical mindset and produce a benchmarked carbon capping model -- and then implement it.

India cannot afford to produce, much less dispose a paper cup and yet we are on a path of allegedly cheap (cheap for the environment?) private transport (the Nano is a no-no), mindless consumption following the US model of predatory capitalism, when India's historical model should be Gandhian innovative pro-poor, pro-public self-reliance.

Who's denying India and China the "right to develop" as you wrongly say? Nobody.
But what kind of developmentcan India afford?

I suggest Indian leaders like Nilekani,Tata and Pachauri use their positions of power, status and privilege in India and the world, to go ahead and show the world what India can do to cap carbon.

Nilakani, put your carbon capping solutions where your mouth and your profits are.

Dr. Chithra KarunaKaran
City University of New York
http://www.ethicaldemocracy.blogspot.com
www.calicutnet.com
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Sir,

Should we not worry about economic stability first and then may be of low-carbon economy!

For me, Global warming is more of an exaggerated hypothesis than facts. How much should you rely on the scientists who can't accurately predict the weather ahead of 24 hours, on something they talk of 10, 100 or 1000 years down. What if the Global warming is not there, or if the human contribution is only an ignorable percentage, or if it is another phase of evolution on earth? At the back of everything is what Darvin said; the fitter of you and I will withstand the environmental selection.

Economy is the backbone of human sustainability in the world. It gives us better odds in any kind of natural selection. There are bigger problems to solve in the world today. AIDS kills millions, so is Cancer and poverty. A stable economy can invest better on cancer research, poverty eradication and making AIDS medicines affordable for the hundreds of thousands who need it. An approach providing stable and sustainable economic conditions can save these millions.

You talk of reducing carbon footprints which is the driving force for economic growth. Any such reduction, without finding an alternative to fuel the economy, will have an adverse impact on growth potential of every country in the world. Finding renewable sources of energy is the need of the hour for sustainability and growth. Carbon foot-print reduction should not be at the cost of reversal of economic growth. Renewable sources of energy makes sense if it can lower the overall energy cost to the end customer. Similalrly any standards on emmission and carbon reduction should target heigher efficiency of fuel consumption at no heigher cost to the end user.

Infosys is one of the premier institutions in India. You get to hire the best intellectuals from India's universities. Also you mentioned that india and china are spearheading the economic growth in this century. Dont you think there is a responsibility that comes with the privilege you enjoy? Does it limit to asking your investors to use electonic media to paper based communication? How much of carbon footprint do you think this is going to reduce? You should rather spend on a paper recycling plant at infosys campus because that sounds a more responsible way of doing it. The 80K human capital that you own can make a lot more difference in India.

Dont you think infosys has enough economic potential to fund a

- A Non-profit Cancer research center in Bangalore. OR
- An organization to spread AIDS awareness in India and for rehabilitation of families affected.

Bill gates who has a lot more money than infosys does something like this. Probably he should do much more than that.

Sir,

Should we not worry about economic stability first and then may be of low-carbon economy!

For me, Global warming is more of an exaggerated hypothesis than facts. How much should you rely on the scientists who can't accurately predict the weather ahead of 24 hours, on something they talk of 10, 100 or 1000 years down. What if the Global warming is not there, or if the human contribution is only an ignorable percentage, or if it is another phase of evolution on earth? At the back of everything is what Darvin said; the fitter of you and I will withstand the environmental selection.

Economy is the backbone of human sustainability in the world. It gives us better odds in any kind of natural selection. There are bigger problems to solve in the world today. AIDS kills millions, so is Cancer and poverty. A stable economy can invest better on cancer research, poverty eradication and making AIDS medicines affordable for the hundreds of thousands who need it. An approach providing stable and sustainable economic conditions can save these millions.

You talk of reducing carbon footprints which is the driving force for economic growth. Any such reduction, without finding an alternative to fuel the economy, will have an adverse impact on growth potential of every country in the world. Finding renewable sources of energy is the need of the hour for sustainability and growth. Carbon foot-print reduction should not be at the cost of reversal of economic growth. Renewable sources of energy makes sense if it can lower the overall energy cost to the end customer. Similalrly any standards on emmission and carbon reduction should target heigher efficiency of fuel consumption at no heigher cost to the end user.

Infosys is one of the premier institutions in India. You get to hire the best intellectuals from India's universities. Also you mentioned that india and china are spearheading the economic growth in this century. Dont you think there is a responsibility that comes with the privilege you enjoy? Does it limit to asking your investors to use electonic media to paper based communication? How much of carbon footprint do you think this is going to reduce? You should rather spend on a paper recycling plant at infosys campus because that sounds a more responsible way of doing it. The 80K human capital that you own can make a lot more difference in India.

Dont you think infosys has enough economic potential to fund a

- A Non-profit Cancer research center in Bangalore. OR
- An organization to spread AIDS awareness in India and for rehabilitation of families affected.

Bill gates who has a lot more money than infosys does something like this. Probably he should do much more than that.

Hari