E.BIZ Q&A
BY ARLENE WEINTRAUB
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July 13, 2000
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Q&A with eToys' CEO Toby Lenk
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"You can't make money discounting"
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A year ago, eToys CEO Toby Lenk, 38, had a huge hit on his hands. Sales were exceeding expectations, the stock was through the roof, and it seemed he could do no wrong. Now with the stock at an all-time low and investors anxious that last Christmas season's fulfillment problems could resurface this December, Lenk is working hard to whip eToys into shape before the holiday rush. Correspondent Arlene Weintraub caught up with him recently in Los Angeles to talk about his efforts. Here are edited excerpts of their conversation:
Q: With the failure of such toy sites as ToyTime.com, Disney's Toysmart.com, and Viacom's Red Rocket, who do you consider to be your biggest competitors now?
A: Our primary competitor is Toysrus.com. Beyond that, Walmart.com and Amazon. But for kids and families, it's Toys 'R' Us. Still, the Web is the Web, and I haven't seen a correlation between having a good Web site and having good offline stores.
Q: Why do you believe many companies have struggled in the online toy space?
A: Last holiday season we saw companies carpet-bombing coupons for free shipping and 30% off Barbie, as if they all had one playbook: discount because they didn't have every product we had. We thought hard about whether we should match the craziness. But you can't make money discounting.
Q: You're expanding into providing hobby and party supplies. Why is that important from a competitive standpoint?
A: What we're seeing in the current environment is a lot of narrowly defined companies rapidly going away. On the Web, it's very hard to be a one-channel company. Our great advantage is that we already have this huge customer database and a strong brand, so we can add channels very efficiently. The market potential is huge -- party supplies alone is a $5 billion industry. And that's not an optional product: For kids 10 and under, birthday parties are required. Plus the margins on those products are higher than in mass-market toys. But strategically we have to stay focused on children and families. We won't be selling wine or adult party favors on the party site.
Q: Further down the line, how do you plan to enhance the site?
A: The most impactful levers have yet to be pulled. Over time we hope to do some unique things with personalization, such as delivering parenting content to a customer as her children age up, or personalizing product pitches for, say, a four-year old or a six-year old. And there will be seamless integration between all the eToys channels.
Q: How do you anticipate e-tailing in general will change over time?
A: As broadband becomes widespread and with added functionality, service, and features, we can't even imagine what the online-shopping experience is going to be like in three or four years. Today the Web is the Model T compared to what it will become.
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