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Banning Smart Kids From Wall Street

Posted by: Cathy Arnst on October 19

Calvin Trillin, one of my favorite writers, has come up with perhaps the most spot-on analysis yet of the causes behind the recession. His New York Times Op-Ed piece, Wall Street Smarts, suggests that the roots of the financial meltdown go back to when the smartest kids in class stopped choosing careers in science, math and engineering, as they did in the 1960s and 1970s, and started choosing finance instead.

The theory is related by an imaginary investor that Trillin meets in a bar, a guy who was in college in the 1960s, and watched everything change in the 1980s:

Two things happened. One is that the amount of money that could be made on Wall Street with hedge fund and private equity operations became just mind-blowing. At the same time, college was getting so expensive that people from reasonably prosperous families were graduating with huge debts. So even the smart guys went to Wall Street, maybe telling themselves that in a few years they’d have so much money they could then become professors or legal-services lawyers or whatever they’d wanted to be in the first place. That’s when you started reading stories about the percentage of the graduating class of Harvard College who planned to go into the financial industry or go to business school so they could then go into the financial industry. That’s when you started reading about these geniuses from M.I.T. and Caltech who instead of going to graduate school in physics went to Wall Street to calculate arbitrage odds.

As a result, says the guy in the bar, the smart kids started inventing things like “derivatives” and “credit default swaps” that those of average intelligence could never have come up with. Everyone got filthy rich as a result, and no one bothered to figure out how to police these instruments of easy money.

Sounds as reasonable as any other explanation out there, perhaps more so. And it makes me wonder—will the smart kids continue to enter finance, now that its reputation has been besmirched? Judging by the size of the recent Goldman Sachs bonuses ($6.7 billion, more than half a million per employee), Wall Street is still the best place to get really really rich. The nation’s manufacturing base, meanwhile, just keeps withering away. As BusinessWeek Writer Pete Engardio recently wrote in Can The Future Be Built In America?:

The good news is that the U.S. is at or near the cutting edge in most of the emerging product areas. Indeed, the new wave of high-tech devices hitting the market is the payoff from billions of dollars in taxpayer-funded research at federal and university science labs stretching back to the 1960s, when the applications were but glimmers in the eyes of futurists. Now the bad news: Unless the U.S. can magically resurrect its manufacturing base, the good-paying jobs from these breakthroughs will be offshore.

So if your kid is one of the smartest in the class, what career would you like him or her to choose? Should they follow their dreams, or follow the money? And what if their dream is to make Goldman Sachs-style bonuses? Can they land on Wall Street and still maintain some of those old-fashioned values that used to keep greed at bay? Or can they be lured back to the sciences, despite the (relatively) paltry pay, in order to make the U.S. a world leader in producing goods, not services, again? In 20 years, how will their choices shape the nation and the economy?

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Reader Comments

rustbelt

October 19, 2009 11:52 AM

Why is it better to produce a good than a service? Doctors make significant money, in fact many people want their kids to be doctors for this reason. This is a service. Is this worse than someone assembling a car? Are people willing to pay x% more for a car to encourage these jobs?

disagree

October 19, 2009 02:00 PM

The derivatives and credit default swaps crashed and burned. They were unsustainable long term and truly brilliant investors like Warren Buffet predicted their collapse years ago. The problem is not that the people cooking them up were "TOO SMART" it was that they were not smart enough, or simply didn't care about the long term consequences.

O/siris

October 19, 2009 02:10 PM

I don't think the question is that one or the other (goods vs services) is better or worse than the other. As i see it, goods need a services industry to get to market and to be sold. But a services industry, likewise, suffers from a kind of inbreeding when it has no goods to unerpin itself, to provide a solid foundation, perhaps more like and infrastructure, from which those services run.

Heavily simplified, would derivatives and credit default swaps have been possible without the high-powered computers to calculate returns, risks, and rewards? That's not a simple yes/no question, I think. However, I think the core Yes or No response illustrates the point I'm making. The two walk hand in hand, or we lose a good deal of financial diversity and ability to adapt to future challenges.

Alice G.

October 19, 2009 03:42 PM

This article makes some valid points. I think the deeper significance of several generations brought up with "self" as the center of their moral compass instead of God's Word has been completely overlooked here. No one with half a brain will choose to be paid less for their talents unless they are following the greatest commandment of all, to "love your neighbor as yourself." I thought the selfishness of my mother's "free love" generation was terribly harmful but I am disheartened to see the generations that followed have in large part followed that path. I believe true patriotism can only be possible by putting country AND God above yourself. Saying you love your country is only lip service unless sacrifices are made for the greater whole of family, community and the country as a whole. Is that truly possible with a world view that includes accountability to only ones self?

Darren

October 19, 2009 03:59 PM

In response to disagree, October 19, 2009 02:00 PM, "truly brilliant investors like Warren Buffet" have derivative positions. Berkshire Hathaway sold put options on the S&P 500 and three foreign indices to collect $4.5 billion today in exchange for risking losing $36 billion.

siphandone

October 19, 2009 06:28 PM

Smart kids are not smart enough to see the future...

Frank

October 19, 2009 07:48 PM

The real problem is the "smart" kids let their greed get ahead of their "smarts" - also derivatives and CDSs performed quite well during the down-turn actually - some blew up but then so did many stocks, bonds etc. You can't just pin it on one asset class - the problem was we were all suckered. The real problem lies with S&P and Moodys rating worthless junk as AAA.

Mike

October 20, 2009 06:53 PM

What you leave out in the question, "follow your dreams or follow the money" is telling. Where's the question about pursuing either ethically? Are smart kids less ethical than average kids? I think what we're reaping today is the fruit of the 80s "me generation." And it just keeps gettin' better all the time ;-)

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