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Why Jack Welch is Good for the Work-Life Debate

Posted by: Lauren Young on July 16

Does work-life balance exist?

By now, you’ve probably gleaned that former General Electric (GE) chairman Jack Welch doesn’t think so. On June 28, during a speech at the Society for Human Resource Management’s annual conference, Welch said, “There’s no such thing as work-life balance,” the Wall Street Journal reports. “There are work-life choices, and you make them, and they have consequences.” Welch also said those women who take time off for family could be passed over for promotions if “you’re not there in the clutch.”

The work-life debate has raged for decades, but Welch’s comments are making people focus on the ongoing discussion now because he is a corporate celebrity as well as a respected management guru. (Welch, who is currently in the hospital for a spinal infection, is also a BusinessWeek contributor.)

I also think the work-life topic is under intense scrutiny right now because of Supreme Court nominee Sonia Sotomayor’s workaholic ways.

I actually agree with Welch that we need to stop talking about balance and shift the conversation to another framework. So do many of the experts I know in this field. For example, Work+Life Fit’s Cali-Williams Yost says: “The quicker we stop thinking there is a right answer or “balance”, the quicker we will begin to see that every one of us has a different work+life fit at different times in our lives.”

As I’ve said before, work-life balance needs to be redefined. Unfortunately, it’s hard to change the conversation. The working public still prefers to describe the way they mesh out-of-office life with their jobs as “work-life balance.” Some 46% of respondents said they like the term “work-life balance” best in a 2008 poll conducted by the Sloan Work and Family Research Network, a research center for work and family issues at Boston College. The runner up? “Work-life integration” with 25% of the vote. (“Work-life juggle” came in third, with 8% of the vote.)

Enough about semantics.

What’s more important here is that Welch also raises the notion that women cannot get ahead unless they make sacrifices. Indeed, we know from research that the Motherhood Penalty exists. As the MamaBee notes, mothers earn 27% less than their equally qualified male counterparts. “While there are women who leave the workforce, that doesn’t explain why only 2.4% of Fortune 1000 companies have female CEOs; for the most part women in the running for those jobs are not taking significant time off,” she says.

Even so, Ann Carlsen, founder and CEO of Carlsen Resources, wrote on the Wall Street Journal’s Juggle blog that people who have espoused work-life balance, not to mention the rights of women in the workplace, should feel thankful for Jack Welch’s comments.

Welch and his peers are a fundamental reason why this country finds itself so in need of such balance. Old-school, war-is-hell corporate types like Welch often seem to long for the days in the American workplace so lovingly portrayed in “Mad Men;” when men were men, women were accessories, and work and play operated under the same basic principle: if it doesn’t hurt, you’re not doing it right. And now, with the recession challenging so many of our current, more enlightened beliefs, while at the same time threatening many of the advances we’ve made in the American workplace, I can’t help feel that Welch took the occasion to speak with impunity, and by doing so, exposed for us the dinosaur he is. It feels a little like Toto pulling back the curtain on the Wizard.

What do you think of Welch’s comments? Are you thankful that he is raising these issues now? Has it made an impact on the work-life balance debate?

UPDATE: After I posted this, a colleague pointed out that Jack’s wife Suzy said (via Twitter): Jack “certainly would NEVER say all/none. It’s a pity WSJ insisted on running story w/o Jack comment and over my objections.”

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Reader Comments

NC Mom

July 16, 2009 01:55 PM

I'm thrilled he made these comments. I agree...a work/life balance does not exist. You make decisions based on what your family needs and your choices have consequences. This hold true for both men and women.

I am hoping that his comments will start an actual discussion, rather than parents screaming about him being old-school and having no place in modern society. Yes, it's silly he said these choices just affect women, they are an issue for both parents. Regardless, it doesn't change the fact that more time at work equals less time at home.

It is time parents stopped looking at this as a personal struggle and start trying to actually change the corporate environment to make it a positive place for both working parents.

Caitlin Dean

July 16, 2009 03:26 PM

This is a topic near and dear to my heart. I truly believe we need a paradigm shift around this issue in order to really shed light on what's really going on.

I don't think shifting away from "balance" is the answer, but how so many of us have some to view "life" as "other than work".

Life is always a dance of priorities due to (essentially) the limits of time (168 hours a week is all you get folks). Each person has the power of choice about how to spend that time.

For a long while there has been the phrase "work/life balance" and I think that semantics are critical. We have colluded in validating an underlying belief that you are not really "living your life" while you are at work. I believe this comes from a feeling most people have that work time isn't their own, that they are often "enslaved" to their employers rather than merely exhanging their time and life energy for cash.

When you are spending your 168 hours a week exactly in accordance with your own personal values you will never feel out of balance. How you allocate that time is completely within your control. I also believe if you are rock solid about your choices you are essentially free: free from fear about what your "consequences" are, free from comparing yourself to coworkers who choose to allocate more time to work - or less time, and free to enjoy time at - and away from - work.

When you know what is TRULY right for you, and you do not compromise this, you are free, empowered...and "balanced". I suspect part of the misunderstanding with someone like Jack is that I would bet he is 100% happy with the way he allocates his time, and may not understand that so many people do not feel empowered to make the choices that are right for them (they are, even if they don't feel it).

Live from NC

July 16, 2009 05:07 PM

Jack Welch is like EF Hutton. When he talks, people listen. While I agree with Mr. Welch that the term Work-Life Balance is a misnomer, I also believe that it is short-sighted to believe that working mothers should be penalized in terms of advancement. Men don’t have to make the same difficult choices that women have to. All the research available supports this fact.

In addition, it is short-sighted to consider work-life to be an issue specific to parents. While they have been the catalyst for lots of the progress that has been made in addressing the needs of employees, it is vital to remember that work-life is just as important to an employee obtaining an advanced degree as it is to a person dealing with eldercare issues. All choices come with consequences. That’s where integration comes into play. We are not all Jack Welch and that really is the point to work-life; addressing the needs of all employees at every stage of life.

Live from NC

July 16, 2009 05:07 PM

Jack Welch is like EF Hutton. When he talks, people listen. While I agree with Mr. Welch that the term Work-Life Balance is a misnomer, I also believe that it is short-sighted to believe that working mothers should be penalized in terms of advancement. Men don’t have to make the same difficult choices that women have to. All the research available supports this fact.

In addition, it is short-sighted to consider work-life to be an issue specific to parents. While they have been the catalyst for lots of the progress that has been made in addressing the needs of employees, it is vital to remember that work-life is just as important to an employee obtaining an advanced degree as it is to a person dealing with eldercare issues. All choices come with consequences. That’s where integration comes into play. We are not all Jack Welch and that really is the point to work-life; addressing the needs of all employees at every stage of life.

Wayne Tarken

July 16, 2009 05:37 PM

Jack's comment are sincere, important and based upon his life experiences. But they are not everyone's experiences. To become CEO of GE takes certain skills, sacrifies, etc that he discussed. So go ahead and sacrifice if that's right for you.

But I coach my female clients to find the place that's right for them based upon their skills, interests and priorities. Many have succeeded on their own terms and in the place of their choosing. They have strong relationships at home and at work. They set boundaries for both.

It's not a perfect world, but I think more women would feel more successful if they found the right place for them versus trying to fit in.

As companies struggle in a tough business environment and the life-span of CEOs declines, more and more women will continue to make it on their own terms

Wayne Tarken

July 16, 2009 05:37 PM

Jack's comment are sincere, important and based upon his life experiences. But they are not everyone's experiences. To become CEO of GE takes certain skills, sacrifies, etc that he discussed. So go ahead and sacrifice if that's right for you.

But I coach my female clients to find the place that's right for them based upon their skills, interests and priorities. Many have succeeded on their own terms and in the place of their choosing. They have strong relationships at home and at work. They set boundaries for both.

It's not a perfect world, but I think more women would feel more successful if they found the right place for them versus trying to fit in.

As companies struggle in a tough business environment and the life-span of CEOs declines, more and more women will continue to make it on their own terms

Vee

July 16, 2009 07:27 PM

I dont admire Jack welch at all, he is the poineer for laying off Americans and shifting jobs to India and other countries, according to me such CEO's are impotent idiots.

Diane

August 22, 2009 12:32 AM

I agree with Jack. We all make choices, and those choices have consequences. That doesn't mean you can't succeed as a working parent but it does mean you have to be flexible and creative in making sure that you make the kind of contributions that will both enhance your career and protect precious time with your children that can never be earned back.

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In this blog, BusinessWeek’s Lauren Young, Cathy Arnst, Diane Brady, Karyn McCormack, Anne Newman, Mauro Vaisman, Lourdes L. Valeriano, and Joy Katz, Mark Hyman, along with freelance writer Savita Iyer-Ahrestani, lead a broad discussion of the issues and day-to-day concerns of working parents, offering up interviews with work/life experts, examinations of relevant research, and their personal accounts of bouncing between separate, sometimes conflicting worlds.

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