Chevrolet Volt Fatigue Setting In

Posted by: David Welch on July 30, 2010

The Chevrolet Volt may be wearing out its welcome. General Motors has been hyping the gasoline-electric car ever since the company showed it off to the public 1,300 days ago. The company has let countless reporters into its battery labs and given interviews with its engineers, all in a very credible attempt to show that GM has smart people with good ideas. And it has worked. GM has picked up some technological credibility and fostered goodwill with the environmental crowd.

Now that GM is finally, after three and a half years, getting close to selling one, the commentariat is taking shots at the Volt. In an editorial in the New York Times today, Truth About Cars Editor Edward Niedermeyer panned the car as “GM’s Electric Lemon.” He criticized the car for, among other things, having bland styling and because it will likely lose GM money. Before that, “Tonight Show” host Jay Leno, a well-known car buff, also took a shot at the Volt’s styling, telling the Detroit news that, “if you didn’t know, you might think it’s a Cobalt or a Camry.”

What gives? It could be a case of Volt fatigue. Sure, documenting the tale of the car’s development gave GM a great story to tell. But in the past few months the company has amped up the noise on a car that has been hyped for years. I count 14 press releases on the Volt since June, including an announcement today that GM will boost 2012 production from 30,000 to 45,000. Some of those releases were absolutely necessary, like vital information on pricing, warranty and ordering options. Others were less weighty, such as a release saying that the car can get water under the hood without the electronics going haywire. Another details a test that proves dust won’t get in the car or affect its vitals while driving. The Volt goes on sale in November. At this point, it’s probably time to just market the car to consumers.

Reader Comments

aobg

July 30, 2010 2:12 PM

"In an editorial in the New York Times today, Truth About Cars (TTAC) Editor Edward Niedermeyer canned the car "GM's Electric Lemon.""

Surely you know that TTAC has been anti domestic for years, has flaunted their love of anything Toyota over and over again.

They have 'ZERO' creditability in anything they post about GM, Ford or Chrysler. Niedermeyer and his predecessor Robert Farago are both closed minded one track trolls - I tried commenting on some of their posts several years ago - if I had proof that what they claimed was wrong, they would either not post my comment or delete their post. Why the NY Times would ever let someone of this low caliber put an editorial in their paper is beyond understanding.

Bruce

July 30, 2010 2:16 PM

The original concept was pretty hot looking. The revised version looks like a bland compact. The one constant has been the over the top cost. It's a ripoff! On the other hand we can have FREDDIE MAC lease the cars. Zero down,zero payments for all unqualified buyers. Using this formula GM will certainly move a ton of these vehicles.

Anon

July 30, 2010 2:25 PM

Yeah... Volt is over-priced. Plain and simple. Buy a cheap 1.8 to 2.2 liter 4-cylinder for a couple grand used and put $500 in to it and you can easily get 40mpg+ on the highway. Better to make the cars that are already on the road more efficient and wait for prices to drop and the bugs to get work out of these new models. I still don't understand why car manufacturers restrict airflow in and out of the engine so much from the factory. Last car I got, I literally removed 3+ feet of small plastic tubing leading to my air intake, and INSTANTLY got an extra 3mpg. Good job auto makers.

AleG

July 30, 2010 2:29 PM

So, to consolidate recent media reports: GM is going to produce 45,000 of these electrified turkeys at a cost of $41,000 each, with that number reduced to $31,300 via government subsidy (i.e., taxes robbed form us proles)? Forgetting for a moment the fact that Proles-R-Us is already on the hook for the cost of a 61% stake in GM, even after that $436,500,000 subsidy (@$9,700 per vehicle), GM is going to lose money on it? What an intelligent and talented group of engineers, designers, marketers, and managers they must be!

-AleG

Lincoln

July 30, 2010 2:29 PM

American cars suck in general.

Deedro

July 30, 2010 2:30 PM

Agreed on Edward Niedermeyer, he seems to care less about America, proabably has lots invested in foreign manufacturers. Until we Americans start supporting and buying US company cars and products we can't complain, this whole economic mess is our fault for buying foreign cars and supporting stores like Target and Wallmart.

Mike

July 30, 2010 2:30 PM

I think the biggest problem is not only is the styling bland (because it has to be for fuel economy) but it is such departure from the really sharp looking concept car introduced three years ago.

I really liked the concept and finally thought there would be a more 'normal', or dare to say, 'good' looking hybrid but it was all for naught with the 'final' design was introduced.

Ken Storm

July 30, 2010 2:31 PM

Forty miles to a charge. Hmmm! That is awfully poor mileage for a vehicle costing $41,000.00. The Volt is going to be another Corvair for GM.

chance

July 30, 2010 2:33 PM

GM is done! They've put to much weight on the companies success being wrapped around one car. The law of averages catches up with everyone at some point. If you don't believe me, ask Toyota. I just wish GM would give me Chevrolet before they drag it under too. GM will never be close to what it was. It will fail completely within 5 years. Do not invest in the upcoming IPO.

Mike Mike

July 30, 2010 2:33 PM

Leno's jab is correct, the design concept shold have been kept. It looks like garbage and if Tesla (pardon the example) can make an appealing body design in use, like Fisker too, then GM should have done the same. This thing looks like hell, as does the Prius. Porsche and Mercedes are showing electric models that look better. Look better = will sell better. What a waste.

volt

July 30, 2010 2:36 PM

you people kept on criticizing the company till it went bankrupt and i and countless others lost all of our investments in the company. now the company is back and coming out with a great car -which you have not seen- and you're already barking!

blah

July 30, 2010 2:38 PM

I agree with this piece. I'm tired of hearing about "Volt this" and "Tesla that". Action speaks louder than words. Release the darn things into the wild, and lets get on with it.

Roed Nielsen

July 30, 2010 2:42 PM

It's a hybrid with larger battery and smaller engine. BFD !! And a big price tag, and supported by US government tax credit. WOW !!

Vince

July 30, 2010 2:43 PM

I certainly hope this works out, I'd love to see Chevy succeed, and this their best shot at it until others catch up.

But having owned, and still owning one of their vehicles, this can't be just better than what they've put out before, it has to be a miracle car, relatively speaking.

mjb

July 30, 2010 2:44 PM

"the car can get water under the hood without the electronics going haywire. " - I can imagine this being very good response to damage control rumors that electric cars "just short out". So no, seems appropriate to me

John S.

July 30, 2010 2:44 PM

It's a good looking car with absolutely revolutionary technology. Just a bit too big, heavy, fancy. and expensive. Smaller, lighter, simpler, and cheaper, would be better. All these commentators are losers. This will undoubtedly be an overwhelming success for GM.

Dick

July 30, 2010 2:45 PM

The Volt is the answer to a question nobody is asking. 40 grand, 40 miles, what a joke.

Pete

July 30, 2010 2:49 PM

Unless the government can force the price of gas to over $8.00 a gallon this is not a lemon, it is a tird. To bad GM and Chrysler were not give the chance to go into a real bankruptcy and exit without the anchor of the unions, they may have stood a chance. Just a matter of time until more bail-outs are asked for or they close the doors and the taxpayers take it in the shorts.

D

July 30, 2010 2:51 PM

NICE..., if only want to drive 50 miles and back...go Plugin Prius!

Don

July 30, 2010 2:53 PM

I'm tired of hearing about it already. 4 years of hype is ridiculous.

GLCSchaefer

July 30, 2010 2:59 PM

Don't try to church it up. You can't call this fatigue from advertising. This car is a loser. This article mentions the "bland styling" and "will lose the company money" as the main complaints in the Times article. What about the seating capacity of 4??? What about the range on a battery charge of 40 miles??? This POS is a BIG LOSER. Just another example of times with Obama. 'We will urinate down your leg and convince you it is rain.'

aron

July 30, 2010 3:01 PM

I was set to buy a Volt based on the concept car - it looked awesome. Now that pictures of the production version are out, the thing looks like any other car on the road, or worse - it looks like a Prius.

This car could have been GM/Chevy's saving grace. Too bad they F'd up yet again. They dropped Pontiac which was the only brand of cars they had with any decent styling. GM is DONE for good. No more bailouts, no more second chances. Done.

mike

July 30, 2010 3:04 PM

I still like the car, but not the price. I'm tired of $40K+ prices for plastic on wheels.

Honestly, I look for Tata Motors to make a killing if they can keep their price point realistic.

DK

July 30, 2010 3:08 PM

The NYT Op-Ed "GM Electric Lemon" was highly unfair. It made it appear that Volt is the only product GM makes and tries to link it all the federal investment etc.It faults GM for not selling Volt at a loss ( like early Prius). GM has so many other good products now that are leading it to recover. At 10 to 20,000 cars, Volt is not going to tilt the financial scales one way or another. But it is still the only product of its kind. It may succeed even. Unlike all-electric cars like Leaf and Tesla, it does not need massive investments in charging stations on highways, but could use them if they are avilable in the future.

Michael Scarborough

July 30, 2010 3:09 PM

I don't want styling. I want a car that allows me to visit the gas station less than once a month; if that. As long as it has an excellent electrical system (which is kind of important on a pluggable hybrid), I'm happy. If you want styling, get rich and buy a Tesla. Just don't forget to plug it in.

dbd1

July 30, 2010 3:12 PM

Surely you understand TTAC has been "anti domestic for years" for the simple reason our domestic car makers and their products have been pathetic examples of what a qualified car company should be.

jgoods

July 30, 2010 3:14 PM

As a daily car-blog writer, I have to agree with Aobg on Niedermeyer. He is indeed frequently biased and full of bombast. But he made some very valid points about the Volt, some of which echo things I said in www.cargurus.com/blog/2010/07/28/at-41000-volt-enters-cadillac-territory.

Unless you consider it a car without a real competitor, as GM would proclaim, the Volt is simply a lousy selling proposition--or at least will be so for most buyers.

Dan

July 30, 2010 3:18 PM

Is looking like a Camry or Cobalt a real problem? I generally find that on the road those boring, generic, and reliable sedans usually account for most of traffic. There is clearly a demand it's undeniable. The idea something has to be hip or styled to death just means next year no one will want it anymore.

Acid Burn

July 30, 2010 3:24 PM

Could be that it will retail for $41,000. Could also be that no one believes that GM really wants to produce eco-friendly cars.

brettrix

July 30, 2010 3:29 PM

Actually, i have heard that the car will catch fire and explode if it goes more than the 40 miles range - i read it on the internet so it has to be true.

Jordan

July 30, 2010 3:29 PM

GM has been talking about this vaporware for a heck of a long time. Early concept art was very exciting, and they end up putting out an ugly car like always. thanks GM.

Dr. Wrench

July 30, 2010 3:30 PM

The volt is a poor copy of the Prius at twice the price. Except for government entities that are used to overspending taxpayer dollars, to few will be sold to private individuals to make a profit. The Volt will prove to be the new [U.S.taxpayer owned] GM's Edsel.

jj

July 30, 2010 3:31 PM

I recently read an article documenting owner's experiences with the experimental electric Toyota RAV4 that was sold briefly in California - it seems that many loved it because:

1. Recharge @ home: They could drive all day, bypass the gas station and charge it at home.
2. No repair costs: Without an engine or transmission, there are no maintenance costs such as oil changes or tuneups or engine or transmission repairs - the only costs are for tires, brakes, etc.
3. Resale value: Some owners reported getting more money upon sale of their electric RAV4 than they paid for it - one owner sold his electric RAV4 for $70,000 on Ebay!

I think Chevy & Nissan (for the Leaf) are offering 100,000 mile warranties for the batteries rendering their durability a non-issue. These major auto company electric cars I hope will travel the same path as the Prius - initial skepticism and concern giving way to high sales and user satisfaction.

david wayne osedach

July 30, 2010 3:38 PM

I guess they think they are doing the right thing by pricing the Volt on the high end.

That will prove to be another GM mistake!

paul

July 30, 2010 3:39 PM

Voltes V is better known than Volt.
Anyway, let the sales number decide who is right in this issue.

JTM

July 30, 2010 3:39 PM

If the styling is not right, you can bet the engineering is not right. I would not buy one for at least 5 years. During this period, I would monitor the recall, warranty, and satifaction histories. This company basically has a terrible reputation which they worked very hard & consistantly to attain. I doubt they have the financial resources to commit to a quality innovative product. There are no Steve Jobs or Bill Gates in this company for innovation & leadership. I hope that I am wrong!

Rick Blaine

July 30, 2010 3:44 PM

@ Aobg

Regarding your comment "Why the NY Times would ever let someone of this low caliber..."...

Perhaps the NY Times isn't the standard for journalistic excellence that you seem to think it is.

LAM

July 30, 2010 3:44 PM

They gave it a French name - what do you want? if the Volt proves to be boring - it just works and works like a Camry -- I would submit that is a good thing, and the styling might be a clever GM marketing ploy to market what is still a somewhat experimental auto to the right type of consumer, one who will give them good technical feedback. After all, the first Prius was purposefully designed to look a bit geeky so that it would attract the right owners and their feedback.

John Barr

July 30, 2010 3:53 PM

As an owner of a 2010 Prius getting 50 m.p.g., with no daily mileage limit (I have driven it 25,000 miles in 6 months,) there is no way that a GM car costing $40K will appeal to me (or any other sensible car buyer.) Having driven only American 'company cars' in my career, and only Japanese cars in my retired life, I can say by personal experience that the difference is night-and-day in quality and value.

GIJon

July 30, 2010 3:54 PM

Its prototype model was much more stylish, the 'Volt Fans' community was devastated when Chevy decided to change it up and make it so darn bland. I still hope it works out though. Its not '40 miles for 40 Grand" its mpg is in the hundreds after the initial 40 miles on charge, which, incidently, should be plenty for average trips.
And to the poster, GLCS, you are a disgrace. PLEASE get over your hatred for the president. How you manage to connect this product, in development well before O got elected, to the president is beyond me. You are obsessed with him. You need help. You need a hug. Calm down.

Bart

July 30, 2010 3:57 PM

"Surely you know that TTAC has been anti domestic for years,..."

If true, it's only because the "truth about (domestic) cars" hasn't been favorable. Honestly, it's BECAUSE of pressure from organizations such as TTAC on GM and Ford (and Toyota and Honda) that progress in alternative vehicles is being made.

And I sense the 'truth' is that ALL of the automakers could be doing much better in designing engines with 3 times the fuel mileage they're now getting. Hopefully we're past the foot-dragging now...

J Barr

July 30, 2010 4:04 PM

As an owner of a 2010 Prius getting 50 m.p.g., with no daily mileage limit (I have driven it 25,000 miles in 6 months,) there is no way that a GM car costing $40K will appeal to me (or any other sensible car buyer.) Having driven only American 'company cars' in my career, and only Japanese cars in my retired life, I can say by personal experience that the difference is night-and-day in quality and value.

Old Disappointed GM Fan

July 30, 2010 4:05 PM

Volt’s design is fine. Especially in comparison to the volume of sales of some of the “refrigerator-box” designs people drive.

Where Volt sales growth will be troubling will be in its legacy of bad service with its vehicles in so many locations, for so long a time. A history of not fixing problems with paint, driveline, and electrical, etc. issues will stop current brand converts from going back anytime soon. Some of GM’s failed service history was nurtured by how little control they exercised over the various practices its dealer network would use to defray warranty rate repairs. These failed repairs left too many people with too many problems. From a user perspective, failed performance and unrepaired issues gave the imports a sales edge that they aren’t likely to loose for a long time.

Volt will struggle with a base price outside what most hybrid buyers believe is justifiable for a vehicle with so little electric-only range. GM’s offering of a Gas-powered approach that is way different than the proven Gas-hybrid, gas-engine/electric motor designs, offered in cars of the successful models from other brands, puts untested technology in consumer hands and circumstances for the first time.

GM’s Gas-Electric generator isn’t an alternate propulsion source. It is so new a design that it is bound to suffer a long series of failures. Repair issues from a low level of service competency will add issues to volt’s problem list during its service training transition.

GM needed to offer a smaller less expensive more conventional hybrid vehicle with less potential for problems so it could get more units into the field sooner. More sales help with model development, repair and training cost and get customer satisfied sooner. For dealers, more sales would motivate them to budget more service personnel training than we’ll see initially.

I suspect GM’s next model will be a more conservative and success model that will benefit from Volt’s legacy. Of course that depends upon them learning new lessons from their current situation, which they haven’t demonstrated yet.

Peter

July 30, 2010 4:10 PM

It's tragic that in order for GM to get the government to underwrite the union health plans (which we will pay for too!) they had to agree to build this "eco" car.

When does government ever do anything
right? This car will not sell. First, there are not enough rich eco-freaks to buy it at $35k and, secondly, it looks like the Chevy Cruze, coming out later this year. Powered by an gas engine the Cruze delivers pretty good mileage and sell for a lot less! Volt-DOA in my book. Maybe we should make the government car pools buy them!

And "green energy"? How's all that electricity going to be produced to drive these puppies when we have to hook them up for a charge? This government "green thing" is a joke too! Just a bad one! Why doesn't the government go "green" first and set the example instead of beratting us to do it! How 'bout it, Big O, leave AF1 at home a few times!

S. Ozol

July 30, 2010 4:14 PM

This makes sense. Considering the design; this car has almost a 4 year old styling. That is about how often cars get an upgrade, or get a total re-design. In November 2010 when this car goes to sale people will be buying a 3.5 year old car that is due-for a face-lift or a total re-design. Technology might be the latest, but that has to be seen on the looks as well.

wowlfie

July 30, 2010 4:15 PM

Well lets see, $41,000 price, then you add delivery, taxes, dealer prep, probably a battery disposal fee, and your looking at about a $45,000 for an economy car. That will set you back $700 a month even if you get a 7 year loan at 8% or so. Won't be too many buyers at that price point. Just the Hollywood types. Oh yeah, and those pricey doctors, laywers, ball players, CEO's, etc.

Curly

July 30, 2010 4:35 PM

I think GM like almost every one else has hopped on the green band wagon just get the lift and not to deliver anything.

bb

July 30, 2010 4:38 PM

I vowed never again to buy a GM car after my Blazer's transmission totally died after 70k miles (among other things). I'm hoping Ford comes out with something similar to the electric RAV4. I am loving my Mercury Mariner Hybrid and would buy a Gas-Electric version in a second.

rspierce

July 30, 2010 5:09 PM

I'd like go for a Volt, except for a few issues...

GM's track record with electric cars; anybody remember the EV-1 by GM? They tried, failed, gave up; not much learned there apparently. The volt is another overpriced and overweight car; but this time it's not even cool looking. I'd like to see GM make at least one EV product successfully before jumping in.

Volt is a car where the traction battery will need to be replaced each 5-10 years (at a huge cost). This makes it essentially a throw-away vehicle.

Volt is a car which if I drive less than 40 miles per day the gasoline will sit in the tank/engine and turn into tar, so the engine may not work when it's needed.

Volt costs twice as much as alternative options, and comes with a higher risk of problems than the established products already available.

Volt electric-only range "specification"; 40 miles is not 40 miles. When dealing with battery burn times there are several variables involved, all of which reduce the burn time. Drive aggressively, burn time goes down. As the battery ages, burn time goes down. Operate outside of optimal temperature range, burn time goes down. 40 miles is an optimistic goal, not a realistic expectation.

So let's see; Volt has no economic advantages, no technical advantages, no style advantages, and is made by a company that just about went out of business recently. It makes it hard to find a reason to buy a Volt.

kuei

July 30, 2010 5:19 PM

A car that saves me gas will cost twice as much as a midrange car. I have to spend an extra $20k? Where is the savings?

Stefan Schreier

July 30, 2010 5:23 PM

The best comment is from Dick (see above). Since I could not say it better myself, I will just leave it at that.

Consumer Loomer

July 30, 2010 5:27 PM

For UDS $41,000 I'd want a friggin' jet pack, not an overblown RC car. Sorry, GM, you fail.

Kilgore Trout

July 30, 2010 5:29 PM

The Volt is the (yet to be IPOd) new GM's
cover for bailout money.

One word: Vaporware.

D.E. Mitchel

July 30, 2010 5:39 PM

My commute is 16 miles round trip. Mixing it up with semis and taxis, I don't want a small car. The Volt will let me bypass the gas station for everything but long distance trips. My night-time electricity which will recharge the car is almost 100% renewable (hydro and wind). When I replace the battery in five years the used battery will still have five more years service life as a UPS battery for my house, which will let me avoid daytime peak electricity consumption altogether. Looking forward to it.

Steven

July 30, 2010 5:45 PM

The Volt is Gm's first attempt to electrify the GM line and I like it. It has great character and fine lines. Besides, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. My buddy's wife looks like a Mac truck, but he refers to her as his hot, red-headed chunky, Vette. Go figure!

Begreen

July 30, 2010 5:49 PM

We also own a Prius, but am very willing to give the Volt a chance. Our 2006 Prius gets ~50mpg and will maybe go a mile on a full electric charge. On the downside, it has lousy rear vision and not so great seats. Most of it's controls including the heater are accessed via a damn touch screen which can't be seen in bright sun. There are a lot of things to like about the car, but there are also plenty of weaknesses.

90% of our driving is 25 miles or less. If Chevy has put together a car that is well made, comfortable, ergonometrically designed and gets 100% electric driving for most of our use, then it will have a winner. After all, that is 100's of mpg in comparison. Do a good job GM and we will strongly consider it to replace the Prius.

Dave W

July 30, 2010 5:53 PM

Anything American is going to get trashed by a lot of americans...it's been the "in thing" to do for a while now.

(I say who cares what these pigs think?....and Jay Leno has sucked for some time now anyway. Does anyone even watch his show?)

Realist

July 30, 2010 5:55 PM

GM would have been much better off upgrading the EV-1 that people tended to love, and was so applicable to most domestic usage situations that it could behoove Americans to consider one for local usage. The Volt doesn't even come close. EVERY other electric vehicle has a longer operating range than does the Volt, and at a much lower price. Nissan's Leaf alone is almost half the price, and with almost twice the range!

This latest GM ad campaign is thus little more than a media psy-op to sell us yet another GM pig-in-a-poke so that we the taxpayers (60% owners of GM) won't demand to see the books so we can learn where our stimulus money really went.

Russ

July 30, 2010 5:58 PM

I have to agree with the negative comments made concerning The Truth About Cars (TTAC)..... about the last place I would look for reasonably informed truth about cars is TTAC. That site is so anti-GM that I finally stopped reading either the blogs or comments. I mean what can you say about a web site that gleefully ran a "death knell" counting down the days till GM passed away. I'm not a big fan of GM but I hope they do well and survive, for the employees if no other reason. But TTAC?... not a place I would go to for factual information or reasonable opinion. I honestly thought that maybe the guy who runs TTAC must have been a former and badly treated employee of GM because his constant harping against them was so vehement.

As for the Chevy Volt...it's been in the news and in the pipeline for so long , I thought GM was on the second or third model year by now.

Albenit

July 30, 2010 5:59 PM

This is a fail-fail proposition. If it is a total failure, it will cost the taxpayers. If it sells well, it will also cost the taxpayers, because of the $7,500 government tax credit. The government needs to step aside and stop wasting our money. If a product can not sell on its own merits, it should be discontinued or never produced. Government must not try to alter market conditions. When have any government done anything right?. Think Fannie & Freddie at the heart of today's economic disaster as well as bailouts. Our Country is broke because of the Government. Stop looking for whom to blame.

RelPre

July 30, 2010 5:59 PM

Wow, the haters are out in full force on this one.
How have we gotten to the point where so many of you have declared this truly innovative vehicle to be a total failure before it has even sold is amazing.
The Volt has transcended the definition of what is a car. It is more a blend of computer and transportation device all in one. GM has forseen that solely electric powered cars cannot be widely distributed yet as there is no technology to quickly charge them to make it useable as the sole family car. By using an onboard generator-the Volt can be your only car, and if you want to drive cross country, go right ahead.
For most drivers 40 miles is the limit of their daily commute and therefore they will rarely even use the gas engine.
As far as temperature and the battery, GM has gone to great lengths to provide heating and cooling to the battery pack to both prolong battery life and range. All of this tech costs money, so those who are willing to condemn GM because of its past, here they are with a game changing technology.
Just give them a chance for petes sake!

RJ

July 30, 2010 6:05 PM

So much for green hype. Plug it in and use nuclear and coal powered electric to charge it back up. How about a windmill and solar panels at your house for $100,000 to charge it.

Cliff

July 30, 2010 6:06 PM

Alessandro Volta was Italian...

As to electric cars, until battery technology improves by at least one order of magnitude they are and will be toys.

And, if they ever do get there you can bet the Feds, state, and local governments will figure out a way to tax the electricity to recoup lost gasoline taxes--eventually even the operating cost "advantage" will go away...

releggneh

July 30, 2010 6:09 PM

Let me get this straight! A car that costs 41,000, it only runs on the battery for 40 miles & it takes a adapter to plug it in! Maybe when I see Oslima driving one & flying a electric plane. I would think about it! NOT!! Obama motors can take their electric cars & stick it!!

Dan McGinnis

July 30, 2010 6:15 PM

I was always a GM fan. I had Cheys, 2 Pontiacs and a truck. All were troublesome. The last Pontiac Grand Prix, top of the line, Supercharged. Great car until the sunroof leaked, the emissions control sensor in the gas filler neck, failed three times, both front wear bearing were toast at 70K miles at $500.00+ per side. I will never buy GM again. I have a Honda Civic Hybrid, 40+ MPG, service by the car diagnostics every 6-8 months, no problems at all 51K and counting. 40 grand for a 40 mile per charge GM product, good luck...

George

July 30, 2010 6:16 PM

America builds junk for vehicles, and has for at least 40 years thanks to overpaid, underworked union parasites. Their wrecks limp out of the factory, and break almost immediately. Do yourself a favor and buy a German or Japanese vehicle, your wallet will thank you.

Arlo

July 30, 2010 6:19 PM

GM could not build a reliable car with time-proven, conventional technology. What credibility does it have with regard to a car built with technology that's current, and, in the case of batteries not yet on the scene? GM was supposed to produce this car one year ago. Sales to discerning customers (and they will not be the traditional Chevy/Buick/Pontiac buyer) are not just about styling, they are about substance and I don't see much of the latter. Having participated in paying $50 billion for GM as a US citizen, and therefore a part-owner of GM, I have the right to state that I have apprehensions about the appropriateness of this vehicle in their product lineup.

bob

July 30, 2010 6:20 PM

so, for forty one grand I can drive all the way to work (which is 27 miles away) then plug it in there and call my wife for a ride home and back to work the next day ...... that ought to clean the air up. What a pathetic joke this car is! I'm just embarrassed its an American product.

Donald Hyatt

July 30, 2010 6:22 PM

As an early owner of a 2004 Prius, I to am waiting for the plug in Prius. I have enjoyed its fuel economy and performance for almost 7 years (almost 80,000 miles,) and with my driving habits the plug in will be even better. I drive short trips around the city, and really long trips on the road. My present 2004 Prius is the best car I have ever owned (I am 68 yoa.) I am not going to change and spend much more money for an unproven car.

Arlo

July 30, 2010 6:24 PM

Over the past 25 years, GM could not build a reliable car using time-proven, conventional technology. What credibility does it have with regard to a car built with technology that's cutting-edge, and, in the case of batteries not yet on the scene? GM was supposed to produce this car one year ago. Sales to discerning customers (and they will not be the traditional Chevy/Buick/Pontiac buyer) are not just about styling, they are about substance and I don't see enough of the latter. Having participated in paying $50 billion for GM as a US citizen, and therefore being a part-owner of GM, I have the right to state that I have apprehensions about the appropriateness of this vehicle in their product lineup.

obama sux

July 30, 2010 6:27 PM

so if you look up the price of a prius, i can go to my local toyota dealer and buy one for 23k and get an average of 50 mpg.
with an 10-11 gallon gas tank i can go 500 to 550 miles on one tank.
again 23k sticker.

the volt hasnt hit the floor yet but cost is STARTING 41k, not including upgrades and delivery.

so you get 7500 back from the government, so now we are at 33,500.

on a charge you get 40 miles. THEN you use gas for the next 260. so how are we supposed to get away from gas?

tesla motors is offering a 300 mile a charge car for 54k. will tesla get the 7500 cash back? cause then it would be 46500, i would spend the extra 13000 for the better car.

with out obama would this car even make it to market?
face it, it will bust harder than the economy.
i owned a dodge, and the quality of dodge is horrid. never been a fan of gm and once obama decided to back the unions and screw the common worker, i will NEVER buy a car from a union company. toyota doesnt support unions and i will buy from them.
GM has a double negative with the union and bailout so they will never get a dime from me.
i MIGHT bend the rules for ford, they didnt take bailout and they have come out strong, but they have union.

GM i was excited about this volt, but now looking at it, finding out it takes "less than 12 gallon" gas tank to go 300 miles in an electric car. there is nothing you provide me to want to go and buy this car or any product you make.

oh yea,
obama sux

John

July 30, 2010 6:28 PM

It seems to me the Volt will just be another back door to funnel tax payer dollars to the union bosses at GM. A $40K price tag for the G(overnment) Motors version of a Toyota Prius ($22K MSRP) seems like a ploy to grab a bigger bite of the 'tax credits'. If only we could apply the same $12K tax credit toward a $22K prius ...

Bobaloo

July 30, 2010 6:42 PM

So many posts, so little facts. The Volt, like a Prius, or Honda Insight is styled for low drag coefficient. Concept car was not. The car drives 40 miles gas-free then a gas powered generator kicks in and you can drive another 340 miles to the next gas station. The genset kicks on every month to keep gas from gunking up. 75% of people drive less than 40 miles a day. Recharge is overnight via standard wall plug. Electricty costs 2/3 less than gas. Volt warranty is 8 years, 100k. Leaf has matched it. Volt lease is $350/mo 36 mo, 2,5k down. Volt is a transition vehicle to help get us off the oil-teat. The Volt comes tricked out with almost everything including 5 yr free Onstar. It handles like a sports car and is heaven to drive.

Autoplaybook

July 30, 2010 8:11 PM

The Volt costs little more than the Nissan Leaf, which will leave you stranded if it runs out of juice. It also requires that you take out a separate lease for the battery pack.

The Volt won't. It's got a fantastic warranty. It'll allow the 78% of drivers who commute less than 40 miles per day to NEVER use fuel again.

But, if they want to go on a trip, they'll be able to. The Volt will drive cross-country just as fast as any other vehicle...except the Leaf. Which will need 8 hours of charging every 100 miles you drive (in ideal conditions).

The Prius goes 0 miles on electricity alone. The Fords won't even go 1 mile.

The Lithium-ion battery pack, which no one else has, except Nissan (who makes you lease it separately) is what's causing this car to cost more...for now.

While I agree that GM overexposed the vehicle too early, it is a technological masterpiece.

Anyone who can't see that is either ignorant of the facts or too blinded by dislike for GM to see the facts.

GM has changed. A totally new set of people are running the show. They're hiring workers back, scaling the quality and reliability charts, and building safe cars again.

Get over the past.

Larry

July 30, 2010 8:38 PM

Oh, c'mon guys. No, it's not going to win any awards on style but it's nowhere near as ugly as a Prius, either. I don't give GM much credit for anything, but I do give them credit for trying something different. Volt won't be a runaway success, but I think it will attract a few fans, city folks who want to go electric but need more range occasionally and don't have the space or don't want the hassle of owning 2 cars.

Ancient

July 30, 2010 9:29 PM

For all those who would like to see a domestic eco friendly car, buy a Toyota and stay away from GM, Ford, and Chrysler.. but ESPECIALLY GM.

All the "foreign" companies all have factories in the U.S. producing their cars, and employ more American auto workers than all of our so called 'domestic' companies combined.

Remember Flint, Michigan and GM's exodus to Mexico and now China.

Anthony Bruno

July 30, 2010 10:00 PM

Imagine if you had "someone" looking over your shoulder while you worked. Think you can perform at your best?
Well, the Obama Admin. has taken a page from the process used in former Soviet satellites, which brought the Yugo!
When GM is allowed to build cars that meet the public desires rather than the narrow minded bureaucrats the cars the build will be competitive.
ajbruno14@gmail.com

Darren

July 30, 2010 10:51 PM

"$40,000 for 40 miles", yeah, maybe you should read a little about the technology before you make such a comment. For anyone who commutes 40 miles to work and 40 miles home (or less) every day, 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year, they will never use a cent worth of gasoline. And it costs about $1 per charge in power (and many work employers will have no problem letting you plug in for a $1 a day). Over the last 5 years, I've averaged $4000 per year on gas just going to work and back, plus shopping on weekends. In 5 yrs, that's $20,000 savings in gas. HUGE!! It goes 40 miles on a charge. Then the 1 litre motor kicks in and just charges the battery (does not propel the car). The car then averages 65 mpg (10-15 mpg better than pruis). Yeah, the car is old news and may not have breakthrough styling, but the technology can not be argued with. With a 8 year warranty on the battery (and subsequent batteries if you have to replace one, have the same 8 yr warranty), the odds are GM will be paying for replacement batteries, not the consumer (since it will likely need replacement under the warranty period). This car is a first of its kind and every dollar of the millions and millions it cost to develop it came from GM (unlike the Prius whose R&D and testing was all paid for by the Japanese government); the technology was there before the bailouts and Government money. So good on GM for bringing a potential game-changer to the market. Yes it will be pricey, but I remember plasma tv's selling for $15,000 when they first came out -- and people bought them!

kimboslice

July 31, 2010 12:55 AM

GM wanted to make big cars and trucks, which are more profitable. The White House telling GM which vehicles to make is a recipe for failure. The Soviets tried central planning with bad results.

rgrantham

July 31, 2010 2:27 AM

I find it funny to see all of these (pro) foreign car advocates taunting a vehicle they haven't even driven yet. I even listened to you foreign car advocates and bought an 09 Toyota Camry only to have it accelerate and almost cause a nasty accident. luckily, i got the car under control and stopped. If seems as though you people want all of our domestic industry flushed down the toilet so our country can join the ranks of 3rd world status. do me a favor, when China attacks us and we need to retaliate to defend ourselves, please don't forget to ask China to send us repair parts for the weapons they built for us so we can attack them back.

Commie Stooge

July 31, 2010 6:11 AM

The economics of this car simply don't make sense.

Worse, the US taxpayer is subsidizing every one!

It's an ethanol refinery on wheels!

Every buyer should get a FREE copy of the DVD: "Who Killed The Electric Car."

I'm NOT kidding!

Alan

July 31, 2010 9:12 AM

How can anyone say that the Volt has been 'over-hyped' when there are still morons out there who think that the thing has only a 40 mile range? Obviously GM hasn't gotten the message out there to those with really short attention spans.

dc

July 31, 2010 12:04 PM

I read the most movie the readers responses here and noticed a few things
1. Some of the posting very political in nature. If you're a republican and you hate obama it seems that you are likely to dislike the volt. These readers and their posts are unlikely to reflect the merits and flaws of the car accurately
2. Gm as a car company is actually doing quite well. The majority of their cars have gun critical acclaim and they're selling well in most other markets. I can understand past disgruntled customers being skeptical.

dc

July 31, 2010 12:17 PM

I read the most movie the readers responses here and noticed a few things
1. Some of the posting very political in nature. If you're a republican and you hate obama it seems that you are likely to dislike the volt. These readers and their posts are unlikely to reflect the merits and flaws of the car accurately
2. Gm as a car company is actually doing quite well. The majority of their cars have gun critical acclaim and they're selling well in most other markets. I can understand past disgruntled customers being skeptical but others should stop politicizing this.
3. I am also sure that Marketing companies ford gm and some of its competitors have readers post comments on this board. It's called positive negative branding.
4. The volt will cost somewhere in the mid thirties after a tax rebate. This is slightly more expensive than the nissan leaf which also is eligible for the same tax breaks.

In the end the volt will succeed or fail on its own merits.

ottoteller

July 31, 2010 2:51 PM

Some days, I think GM is starting to get with the program. Several of its new cars are eye catching and smartly functional. I have no doubt that they have made serious progress in addressing quality.

And then there are days like these when they take a sound and innovative concept and turn it into an over-priced cure for insomnia, as they have done with this car.

Tomas

July 31, 2010 3:54 PM

The comments from Dick and Rspierce sum it up very well. Additionally, all electric performance will substantially degrade in cold weather or hilly terrain. You won't be able to heat the car or even keep the windows defrosted!!! Federal DOT parking lotin D.C. is full of Toyota and Honda...some Ford, few GM.....

Tomas

July 31, 2010 4:09 PM

The comments from Dick and Rspierce sum it up very well. Additionally, all electric performance will substantially degrade in cold weather or hilly terrain. You won't be able to heat the car or even keep the windows defrosted!!! Federal DOT parking lotin D.C. is full of Toyota and Honda...some Ford, few GM.....

Angry Voter

July 31, 2010 9:07 PM

GM has too many managers and not enough engineers.

The Prius has better performance at half the price.

Ray

August 1, 2010 1:05 AM

To all the anal-perfectionists who post such whiny comments dissing the Chevy Volt, I hope all of you put your money where your mouth is. None of you should ever buy any car over $12k that gets less than 400 miles on a charge or less than 50 MPG and doesn't look like a Lamborghini or a Lexus. Otherwise you're just a bunch of hypocrites.

mmalc

August 1, 2010 3:32 AM

The level of animosity here is exceeded only by the level of ignorance.

First, for those -- like Rush Limbaugh -- who can't even get the most basic facts right: If you charge the Volt directly, you should typically get a range of about 40 miles *before it starts using the gas engine to charge the battery*. Thereafter, it continues to use the gas engine to charge the battery (and recoups energy during braking). Its range is therefore "only as limited" as that of any other car you drive today. When you run out of gas, look for a gas station.

Re RSPierce's asinine comment: "Volt is a car which if I drive less than 40 miles per day the gasoline will sit in the tank/engine and turn into tar, so the engine may not work when it's needed."
This is simply not true. The vehicle monitors the gas usage, and will periodically run the gas engine even if it's not required for electricity generation precisely to avoid this problem.

40 miles is a reasonable expectation for average driving in average conditions. Chevrolet is not trying to hide the fact that this will vary, indeed the company is up front about it. Nevertheless, 40 miles is still almost 40% more than the 29 miles a day the average American drives, so even allowing for less than optimal conditions, many are still likely not to need to use gas on a daily basis.

Re 5-10 year battery life: You seem not to have noticed that Chevrolet offer an 8 year warranty...

Re Peter's sadly uninformed question about where the electricity will come from: The "longer tailpipe" myth was debunked years ago. Indeed, ironically, it was propagated by car companies desperate not to sell electric cars. The nation has more than enough off-peak electricity to charge millions of vehicles overnight without impacting the grid at all. And study after study has shown that the well-to-wheel efficiency of electric vehicles far exceeds that of gas vehicles.

Perhaps I'll address the other pessimists later...

BuckarooTwo

August 1, 2010 7:47 AM

I won't buy GM or Chrysler, period. The dealers got sandbagged who donated to Hilliary or McCain in markets competing with Obama supporters. The bond holders got sandbagged in favor of the unions' pensions. Who do you suppose owned the bonds...that's right 401k little guys trying to protect their families pensions.

Jose Gonzalez

August 1, 2010 9:49 AM

40,000.00 - Driving range - 40 miles. HELLO!

Outr8ged

August 1, 2010 4:14 PM

The reality is that GM had a limited number of newsworthy products to overshadow their financial crisis. They had to oversaturate the media with the Volt even though its obvious that the product was not ready for release. Bad case of over promising and under delivering. Although there is a simple solution: Introduce the Cadillac and Buick/Opel versions of the Volt to make the program profitable. And take a note from Toyota and not leak the story until you are within six months of releasing the product.

Matt

August 1, 2010 10:44 PM

I'm a test engineer for the volt. I got a ticket going 80 MPH. I have the ticket to prove it!

paul mcgraw

August 1, 2010 11:48 PM

I think that paying $41,000 for a car the size of a Corolla and with less room makes no sense at all. It doesn't matter if it's electric. If I want to spend $41,000, I'll buy two Priuses. Ridiculous.

mr

August 2, 2010 6:36 AM

GM is forever 'futureama' PR and little show!
interior design of new Regal is very tight and view restrictive. same as with Malibu. Volt, too. car prices are too high as with Volt.
that which would sway buyer to GM is inferior to off-shore brands. GM still does not 'get it'!
what market needs is a lighter car, large cabin, more fuel efficient gasoline or diesel engine and more public transport!

mr

August 2, 2010 6:36 AM

GM is forever 'futureama' PR and little show!
interior design of new Regal is very tight and view restrictive. same as with Malibu. Volt, too. car prices are too high as with Volt.
that which would sway buyer to GM is inferior to off-shore brands. GM still does not 'get it'!
what market needs is a lighter car, large cabin, more fuel efficient gasoline or diesel engine and more public transport!

Husin O'Bama

August 2, 2010 7:55 AM

It is too short on electric range to excite me, if at all.

Buster

August 2, 2010 9:23 AM

GM has a LONG history of intorducing electric cars in a way they are sure to fail. See the movie "Who killed the electric car". When that car succeded GM killed it.

At $40k (when a prius is selling at $20-$25k this car will die to.

Nothing new here - in a year they will be saying "we made it but no one wants it". Back to fossil fuel.

Dave56

August 2, 2010 9:38 AM

Early users of new tech pay dearly for being guinea pigs of that tech. Having said that, the Volt makes good business sense for the average commuter who goes the 22 mile commute to work. At $350 a month lease with a few thousand up front, it is price competively. If the thing can hold up after a few years, GM has a potential success to build a entire line of cars on, with shrinking manufacturing costs as sales number ramp up.

Jolomi

August 2, 2010 11:10 AM

I don't understand why there is all this hype about the Volt doing 40 miles on a charge. GM had an electric vehicle in 1999, the EV1 that did 80 - 100 miles with a lead-acid battery and 100 - 140 miles with a Nickel-metal hydride battery. One would think at this time GM should have an electric vehicle doing 150-200 miles.

Nick

August 2, 2010 11:37 AM

This article is idiotic. The Volt is a high-tech, quality car, that will finally give us a way to reduce oil imports!

GM put a huge effort into developing the Volt. I'd buy one with my eyes closed.

Gary

August 2, 2010 12:34 PM

I don't think that electric cars or hybrids are the answer. The answer is to drive less. If we could convince families to give up at least one event/activity in their child's life, like soccer, then we could reduce the amount of oil and gas we consumer each year by millions of gallons.
My sister sometimes drives her SUV up to 30 miles to take her kids to a soccer match. That's 60 miles round trip which means about 3 gallons of gas.
The only way to solve our long-term energy problems is for everyone to sacrafice a little.
Kids don't need soccer anyway. How many kids will end up becoming professional soccer players anyway?

terryreport com

August 2, 2010 12:45 PM

Virtually every car that comes out of Detroit is so heavily compromised by the time it hits the streets that the original vision is unrecognizable and the dream, whatever it was, is shattered. There are two many people, too many divisions, too many committees saying "You gotta do this....", "You gotta do that..."

GM is still stuck in the mode of making cars for, literally, middle America, for places between Pennsylvania in the east and Kansas in the west. That's their strong suit: cars that sell well in Ohio or Minnesota. So, the Executive Director of Bland Styling has to get his hands on the car before it's style in finalized. To whit: The Volt and just about every other car GM has made in the last, what?,fifty years?

Also, consider this: to make a good electric car, GM has to throw away the engineering and skills of thousands of workers, and the executives, who have trained their entire lives on internal combustion engines. They tried to throw out old, bad practices when they created Saturn and we all know how that turned out. Did any company that once made manual typewriters survive to make PCs? Please send me the name.

The most telling information on the Truth About Cars web site is that GM, itself, has planned only a small run of the first generation Volt and is banking on the next gen for success.

By the way, the car has been criticized not because it will lose money, but because it is being sold at too high a price. The website said GM should have priced it to lose money so that it could establish the brand and economies of scale that would later make it a success, like the Prius.

I believe you price at small, four passenger, short range car at 41,000 dollars because you don't want it to sell. You want to make back as much of your development costs as possible from the earlier adapters and to hell with everyone else. This is not a car that it is intended to be mainstream. It is a rolling experiment that circumstances have forced on a gasoline car company and GM is placing off-setting bets against itself by pricing it out of range for reasonable use.

Doug Terry

big g

August 2, 2010 3:50 PM

GM is well known for crap electronics. enough said.

Richard

August 3, 2010 10:27 AM

Instead of calling it the Volt. Why not the Citation...name it after that other GM engineering marvel! I will never own an electric P.O.S. death trap car.

greg

August 3, 2010 10:31 AM

GM creates and retains jobs in the US.Unfortunately we have a number of people who are bent on destroying the Volt before it has even come off the production line.It is important that manufacturing is retained within the US.
Each new car manufactured supports other smaller firms and communities further down the line.What most people do not understand is that once manufacturing ceases in the US, the cost to start it up again would be almost impossible.The problem is that goods produced in the economic miracle from the east look ok but are sub standard in quality.Support your manufacturers.

jose

August 3, 2010 12:31 PM

The ignorance is DEAFENING!

Look how many ill-informed comments there are already on this story. You guys are really making yourselves look foolish by repeating the 40-mile range myth, which is just FLAT OUT WRONG.

Dick, GLCSchaefer, Brettrix: How must it feel to - quite literally - have no idea what you're talking about?

Albert

August 3, 2010 12:44 PM

No one would be fatigued of the concept had they picked a more exciting name. "Volt" just sounds like the 2011 version of the Cavalier. Woo what a marvelous concept that was.

Give us a car we'd want to own at $41,000

bart

August 3, 2010 1:22 PM

oil will be $150 by 2015. that is based on supply growing at .5% per year and demand going at 1.5%. they may be just a bit early to the gas crunch doming.

also, with the credit of $7500 it will not be overprices in a few years.

full electrics are not in the future without an increase in generation capacity.

Sw

August 3, 2010 5:00 PM

So let me get this straight... you want a drop-dead gorgeous (completely arbitrary), hi-mileage vehicle with cutting-edge technology, little to no limit on range, all for bargain-basement prices? Yeah, those types of products hit the market all the time right? Just from foreign manufacturers? Name one.
If this vehicle fails, blame a large portion of it on the fact that gasoline came down to semi-rational prices.
40 miles on electric only may not be that great, but 300+ on the generator beats the heck out of any electric-only vehicle out there. Don't go to far on your plug-in Prius; you'll be stuck.

Soothsayer

August 3, 2010 7:15 PM

The electric car is analagous to the steam at the turn of the 20th century. A good idea but doomed to obsolescense. There simply is not enough Lithium in the World for widespread usage in electric automobiles. Unless some alternative battery technology can be found, the electric car will find itself on the trash-heap of history. I'd put my money on hydrogen--easy to produce (electrolysis with CSP solar), pollution-free, AND can be used in the car you now have.

Tag Pillay

August 4, 2010 1:39 PM

Anything to do with Unions is not organic, not sustainable and unreal.

republican for Obama

August 4, 2010 4:55 PM

GLCSchaefer for you to blame this on Obama is so lame. Obam has done more good in 2 years than Bush did in 8. The repubs handed the depression to Obama and now you are trying to convince the simple minds its all obama's fault. This kind of Palin routine is shallow and digracing. I am switching parties thanks to whiny republicans that blame everything even their own actions on Obama. Suck it up

cotreq

August 4, 2010 6:14 PM

Regardless of what you read...Americans don't want small cars, and small electric cars even less. At $40k we'll see a rush out the door of all the rich eco-nuts, after that these things are going to sit on lots all over the country, the discounts they are going to have to give to move these things will probably drive GM into a proper bankruptcy.

JGF

August 5, 2010 10:14 AM

I think some of you should do a little research before making your silly arced comments. The Volt answers a very basic question for a lot of folks. How far do you commute for work? If you drive less than 40 miles which some 70% of Americans do, you will never use a drop of gas on your daily commute. No worries if you have a few errands to run after work, if the battery charge runs low the low emmisions engine/generator starts on its own and maintains the battery. The engine will continue to maintain the battery at optimum levels so you can go as far as 7 gallons of gas will take you. Estimated at approx, 300mi not counting the first 40. The engine has no physical connection to the wheels it simply maintains the battery. Cant say any of this about the Nissan Loaf, that thing will never be anyones primary car, you just cant go far enough if you need to. The only reason the Volt costs what it does is because of the $10k battery that why theres a $7,500 tax credit, to spur the technoligy. The OEM battery is warrentied for 10 years/100k miles. Thats pretty good peace of mind when you consider what the battery might cost in ten years. Think about what your first lap top cost? How much can you buy one for today? Unless you own a Prius I think you get the picture.

chevy one

August 5, 2010 1:23 PM

did i read 40 miles, that cant be right.

wowlfie

August 5, 2010 5:20 PM

Jeeze for another $10 grand you would be able to buy the new Tesla sedan with a 300 mile range. Who is going to buy this hunk of junk Volt? It's a dead end because it's too costly. The Nissan Leaf is a much much better buy--especially when you consider the battery is supposed to be the most expensive component and theirs is good for 100 miles so that means your getting 2.5X's as much battery for less money than the Volt. I once wanted a Volt but not now I was assuming they could get the price down in the $33K to $35K price range but $41K is ridiculous. They seem hell bent on gettng the government to pay most of the tab with the $7500 rebates and pricing it $7500 to high just for that reason. Even after the rebate with shipping, taxes, etc your going to be paying $36 to $37K for this car. That's way too much. Sorry Chevy but will trade in my Avalanche on a new Nissan Leaf and you can stick your company back to the taxpayers when it goes belly up within 24 months.

John A.

August 5, 2010 9:35 PM

STRANGE......where are the pre-orders for the Volt? It's going on sales in November? Should be pre-orders someplace....Toyota had 200,000 pre-orders for the 2010 Prius. Why aren't there any pre-orders for the Chevy Volt?

Ogden Lafaye

September 1, 2010 6:54 PM

The VOLT? The VOLT is actually a bomb and the losses GM will suffer will make that upcoming IPO an "on time" infusion of all the moeny the VOLT is going to lose.

Their drive train is archaic technology and a dead-end in the electric car field. 40 miles? Laughter

MARK MY WORD

TomShea

November 26, 2010 2:39 PM

THE LAST WORD (hopefully):

Battery electric cars lost the technology race to the internal combustion engine about 100 years ago.

So in closing,
electric cars offer a splendid, pleasurable and carefree mode of travel. PROVIDED you live at the golf course.

Jeff Conforti

December 25, 2010 12:45 AM

The VOLT is the best all-around vehicle their is. If you commute a reasonable distance you will never use gas. If you take long trips, you will never get stuck. As fuel prices climb, and they will, the VOLT makes more sense every day. The BEST thing that could be done in my opinion, is to use a FRUGAL DIESEL instead of the gas engine and it would be perfect. City driving=electric, long distance=diesel.

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