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Posted by: David Welch on February 22, 2006

As if General Motors Corp.’s Pontiac brand didn’t have enough problems, now the company says the GTO is going away at the end of the year. On one hand, the car never really sold the way GM had hoped. Bringing the sporty Monaro to the U.S. from GM’s Australian Holden operation was a good idea on paper. But the styling was outdated. By the time GM imported the car here a couple years ago, its jelly bean profile screamed 1990s.

But here’s the bigger problem. Once GTO disappears from showrooms, GM’s so-called sporty division really will have just one car—the Solstice roadster—to back up its brand promise of “excitement.” By the end of the year, Saturn will have the Sky roadster, which is built off the same platform as Solstice. And the Aura sedan is arguably more boldly-styled that Pontiac’s G6. Hence, Saturn will be able to make the same promise. Add in the new G5 coupe—which is a Chevrolet Cobalt compact dressed as a Pontiac—and the disaster in complete. Pontiac’s attempt to be bold, expressive, or sporty will be a joke. That harsh truth is compounded by the fact that Chevrolet—with a slate of SS performance cars and 505-horsepower Corvette Z06—is emerging as GM’s real performance division.

It’s not surprising that GM is once again bungling a brand’s image. What is surprising is that it’s Pontiac that is being watered down, and that it’s happening with car czar Robert A. “Bob” Lutz riding herd. If Lutz knows anything, it’s cool cars for the gear head set. True, he brought us the Solstice and Sky. But the GTO is all his, too. He misfired with the car by assuming buyers would stump up more than $30,000 for it when Ford offers a brawny Mustang and Chrysler sells a Hemi-powered 300C in roughly the same price range but with much better styling.

Sources say Pontiac may get a rear-drive muscle car at the end of the decade. It could be built using the same hardware as the forthcoming Chevrolet Camaro, which could come as early as 2009. But for Pontiac that’s at best four years away, which is a long time to wait for a brand whose fortunes are fading fast.

Reader Comments


February 22, 2006 11:28 PM

The current GTO's styling might be a touch on the bland side but that car is no competition for any Mustang or 300C on the road. It will smoke both of those cars handily. The interior is great and has a quality feel. The engine has a wonderful growl and legendary GM powerplants in the 350 and now the 6.0 for 2005 known for putting in 200k miles without a hiccup.

The biggest killer has been the gas-guzzler tax on the automatic version. I considered buying one to replace my Mustang GT but loate to pay $1100 extra to the gov't when a Suburban doesn't even have a gas guzzler tax. A 5-speed in that car would be uncontrollable since it's so fast.

In short, the GTO is the best sleeper car on the market.


February 25, 2006 10:03 AM

GTO has been cancelled? This isn't exactly true.

The GTO never had more than a few years in the pipeline... Holden had planned all along to end-of-life the Monaro - the car the GTO is built from. The Monaro was extremely dated - it traces itself back to the same chassis used on the Caddy Catera, and the platform had serious and untenable safety issues (gas tank location required a re-engineering for US markets - and the result took away half the trunk and changed the CG point). In fact, GM pointed out at launch that the car would only survive three years.

So, we can at least understand that it wasn't cancelled, it had just reached the end of it's cycle. Whether the nameplate will be seen again on another platform is still TBD. As so many people have correctly pointed out, Camaros and GTOs won't save GM.

(automotive enthusiast website and blogs... with RSS feeds)


February 28, 2006 1:04 PM

The 2004 through 2006 GTO was the best bang-for-the-buck car available; the styling, while not cutting-edge, is still extremely attractive. The real beauty lay beneath the skin; terrific accomodations, great road-handling and a powerful V8 for less bucks than its foreign competitors. And lets face it, the Charger, which offers similar performance could be considered anything but attractive (4 doors... pheww!!). Pontiac is going to need a new halo car if the GTO goes away.

anthony becker

March 7, 2006 9:51 AM

i currently own an 05 gto and i think it is a terrific car an absolute blast to drive+a QUALITY CAR something long overdue from gm, it's a shame it is going away, and forget about the mustang gt no comparison.


March 22, 2006 2:16 PM

I own an 06 and love smoking the other import and that retro Mustang. Nothing like hearing high gear rubber at 140mph and going back to see two lines seven foot long. I do get respect at all redlights and love it.


April 13, 2006 6:45 PM

GTO Dead..........Good!!
A want-a-be retro that insulted the true GTO name.


May 17, 2006 4:12 PM

Retro, afraid not, get your head out of your
crack. A late model power house. If you don't
have one, how would you know? Jealous?


May 23, 2006 11:27 AM

While the Monaro was a great car it was not designed with Pontiac in mind. Conversion was done as cheaply as possible for a chassis close to the end of its cycle. All those that purchased the car have a great Holden to drive in the States.


June 8, 2006 10:34 AM

I own a 2006 GTO, it is the fastest and one of the best I ever drove; last car a 2003 BMW-CI. GM dropped the ball on never marketing the car on their advertisements. It beats the "dime a dozen" Mustangs and those "4 door monster" Chargers. If you don't think so test drive one.


June 24, 2006 4:30 PM

Oh no, first the Aztec and now this. What will we do? Nice interior and hp (looked it up on eBay), looks wise I couldn't believe it wore a GTO badge.


June 25, 2006 8:00 AM

A bunch of four cylinders in the sport lineup, at least the luxury racer(70'gsx/my unicorn) that of Buick is coming around with some v8's.


June 28, 2006 2:17 PM

I keep seeing everyone write that the GTO was just a Monaro. True that was the design of the car and GM didn't spend much on a facelift, but it was Pontiac that squeezed a bigger engine in an already existing platform. Isn't that how GTO started in '64. An existing platform (maybe the best in the current GM parts bin with the exception of Corvette) and a big engine, what is more Muscle Car than that?


June 29, 2006 3:42 PM

GM really blew it. The GTO has all of the spec.s of a fun car - but stuffed it in that cheesy-looking Cavalier body. If the desigeners at GM would have got off of their lazy butts and built an '06 version of the 66-67 GTO body more people would have shelled their hard earned cash for the car.


July 2, 2006 11:17 AM

The 04-06 GTO actually has a great presence in person (i.e., pictures don't do it justice). I think the Mustang GT is a great looking car, as well. Overall, the GTO is a much better package and, for the price, the best car GM has produced. Also, you can buy a new GTO for under $30k (because dealers are trying to move the cars, asap). The interior is light years better than anything else in its class. The new age GTO is a very good, perhaps even great, car.


July 6, 2006 10:29 AM

I'm quite happy with my 05 GTO. 400HP, excellent quality, sophisticated IRS suspension and ergonomics, real rear legroom and superb interior styling. The GTO is a modern classic.

The author shows his ignorance by not mentioning Pontiac's 303HP Grand Prix GXP. It's a fine competitor for the Charger Hemi and is much more capable in four-season climates.


July 15, 2006 11:38 AM

Even though the 04-06 goat is an outstanding car for the money, I think if they [GM] also made some type of stripped version with just the Muscle car basics, it would not only lower the the price to perhaps less than 25-grand level [like the mustang GT]It would likely be a few hundred pounds lighter, performance would be even more outstanding,This relatively small drop in MSRP may drasticly increase sales figures.


July 17, 2006 9:19 AM

I agree that the GTO offered the best bang for the buck, as long as it was built. I liked the interior a lot, and the fact that you could get a Vette V8 for 2/3 of the price. But I believe it was exactly the V8 that caused the biggest problem selling the car. GM should have considered to offer a smaller engine for the car, just like Ford does with the Mustang. The way it stands, compared with the Mustang, GM tried to sell Mustang SVT Cobra's only, which make up only a small fraction of the Mustang's sales. A smaller engine to put the GTO head-to-head with the Mustang would have significantly increased its chances to survive.

I'm sad to see it go, as I liked its looks, and thought it was the right way for Pontiac to go. Just as mentioned in your article, I currently can't see a car bar the Solstice to live up to the company's sporty aspirations.


October 19, 2006 1:14 AM

the gto is ugly on the outside but the interior is nice and so is the 6pd trans. but the 33k sticker price is out of line. in 09 the camaro is returning and you can count on gm to mess it up. they are giving it a rear end tha looks like a corvette leftover. and i will bet anyone that they will over price ti so no one who really wants one will be able to affoard it.


November 4, 2006 1:46 AM



November 13, 2006 1:26 AM

i looked at a loaded 06 mustang gt price was 33,000. i bought the gto. the gto is built much better esp inside than the cheesy mustang. plus the gto will smoke the doors off the mustang w/o breaking a sweat. other posters that talk smack on the gto obviously have never driven 1 or cant afford 1


January 24, 2007 8:12 AM

The LS2 GTO is for sure a bad-a$$ car, but best bang for the buck? Sorry, I'd have to hand that to (gag) the SRT-4. Yes, the 4-banger neon on steroids is every bit as fast 0-60 and through the 1/4 mile as the Goat and cost 10 grand less. It's ugly as sin, but you can't argue with the performance it lays down. Besides, some would call the GTO's styling nothing more than a hopped-up Grand Prix.


January 25, 2007 3:13 PM

First, get over the times call for a new style of muscle car. If you want a '60s-'70s style Goat, look on eBay and get one. If you care about looks, and not performance, then don't go shopping for a muscle car. I'm 23, and I own a 06 GTO, and this car is truly is a monster. The best part is, people think it's some kind of fat cavelier or new grand am/grand prix, and they couldn't be more wrong. This car was designed for car enthusiasts, that truly understand what a muscle car is--not the most pretty, or with all the fancy doo-hickies and luxuries, BUT IT KICKS BUTT ON THE STREET/STRIP, WHERE IT COUNTS!! End of story.


January 30, 2007 2:23 PM

The 2005-2006 GTO is luxury GT car. It has the ride and feel of a Aston Martin. No joke. The interior boasts the MOST comfortable leather seats ever. The engine is amazing...the drivetrain is amazing (even the automatic). The exterior styling is a little muted....but everything else makes up for it WITHOUT A DOUBT.


February 12, 2007 10:19 PM

gto sucks. i got a magnum srt8 that eats c6 vettes and m5 bmws all day long and thats stock.ain't no gto gonna do that.they are nothing but noise.!!!!


February 18, 2007 8:43 PM

2005 GTO here, bring it on srt8 boy...


February 28, 2007 5:25 PM

Just want to say I am a PROUD owner of an 04 GTO. It is by far the fastest,funnest, most powerful car I have ever owned. I had considered getting a Mustang GT but one look at the interior and all I could think of was "cheap". The leather seats are the most comfortable car seats I have ever sat in. Long road trips are pure pleasure. If you want me to part with my GTO you'll have to pry my cold dead fingers from the steering wheel.


March 1, 2007 12:33 PM

The GTO is a car that has excellent power no doubt about but is their own crowd of GM critics that killed the sale. How? Fisrt, the hardcore Firebirds and Camaros owners will brag as saying..."the GTO is too heavy", "looks like a cavalier", "my Camaro or Firbird will beat it at the lights". Second, GM had sold the pony cars with more horsepower than Ford and the result was... not a whole lot of sales. Is the new Camaro going to kick Ford sales on the mustang? I doubt it.


March 13, 2007 8:31 PM

I have had the opportunity to be the proud owner of several Pontiac muscle cars...71 Trans Am, 73 Trans Am, 84 Trans Am, 96 Trans Am. I am now a proud owner of a 06 Phantom Black GTO, and this is by far the baddest bone stock factory Pontiac has rolled off their assembly line as of yet. This car is a thrill to drive to say the least. isn't the typical cosmetic GTO we remember from the days...But it still is the thrilling horsepower and sound from the past, and then some. As for cosmetics....neither the Mustang, Charger, EVO, WSX...have that true retro 70's look.


April 19, 2007 3:42 PM

dont buy into that srt8 crap i have 05 gto and i beat a srt8 hands down it was funny to see him try to catch up at 140mph and wut iz da top speed of a a stock goat


April 23, 2007 6:28 PM

06 GTO: 0-60= 4.6 sec.; 3700 lbs.

Magnum SRT-8: 0-60= around 5 flat, plus it weighs 4260 lbs.


April 25, 2007 5:25 PM

I own a Red '06 GTO. This car is unf'ing believable! The LS2 engine in my baby smokes every other sub-50k chump out there because of the incredibly consistant torque throughout the rpm range. Acceleration is truly like taking off at an airport! When I felt this, I had to buy it. SRT8 ain't nothin' but headlights in my rear-view mirror. And oh! BTW, someone wanted to know what the top speed of the GTO is. All I can say is on a closed track, and a very cool spring morning at sea level, mine hit 158.3mph with a tiny more to give (stock-no tuning). And the stock tires are rated to 168mph. Good luck Rust-angs!


April 28, 2007 12:46 AM

I just turned in a 2004 M3 and bought a 2006 silver/red GTO with the 6 speed and 18" wheels. This car was picked after test driving every other sports car in the 25k to 45k range. The GTO car may not handle as well as the M3 but it is a blast to drive hard and it would smoke the M3 FROM 0-60 in comfort.I have not lost a race and I could not be happier.

lloyd robinson

May 4, 2007 12:41 AM

if as you say the engineer at GM had a clue they would have used several gto platform but i would have choosen the 64-65 or the 1970-1972 gto platform. they had a great ideal in 1970 with the gt-37 but due to the gto whinner they drop the car. it was light cheap and hid from the insurance company light and it out performed the gto with the 400 engine, it was a clean sleek and beautiful car. but for to have a real gto get rid of the chevy motor. even thought gm sraped the casting for the pontiac motor there are company that can put to gether and all aluminum hugh C I engine with plenty of after market company waiting for the chance to help. Just think and all aluminum big block all pontiac gto. 200,000 plus seller if they would leave all the fancy crap off with rear whel drive and without the independent suspenion and keep it cheap.


May 14, 2007 12:05 AM

I have an 06 GTO and it is my 2nd Pontiac, and I have a 71 Firebird Formula. I wish that Pontiac would have put an aluminum 455 in the GTOs with fuel injection. I pretty sure with that motor in a new GTO would give a new Z06 a run for its money/tie, or just beat it completely. Just my 2 cents though.


May 29, 2007 2:41 AM

I got an 2006 GTO with a Monaro Conversion i race SCCA in the western region i would die for my car it helped get me were i am for all of you that got something to say about the GTO/Monaro your ignorant. I havent lost a Race to any japanese or Euro that didnt have more more in its boosted motor than what i spent for my car.I also race 600cc and 1000 Sportbikes, so i know the differnce in speed sensation. Im pushing 615HP to my wheels fully tuned every day driving and race car. i spent 1200 bucks all motor, ported heads the usual. and i have a roll cage and im pushin a high ten on the quarter. whats any Wak RT, or Charger, or Mustang got to say about that. You think your car is fast or you think you can catch this so called ugly make over GTO. Come get it. This is the most beatiful car to me and wouldnt want a ferri or anything for it.


May 29, 2007 11:22 PM

I own a phantom black 06 GTO i can not believe pontiac did not put
any advertising into this car if there would have been more exposure and comparison to other cars in its class i truly believe
this would have been a hot seller. Looked at the 06 mustang gt and
in my opinion there is no comparison, riding in a gto is like riding in
a bmw or a benz the interior is about as prestigious as it gets and as far as performance this car is a monster the mustang did not even
compare .

love my Gto bring it back.

george giordano

July 5, 2007 5:30 PM

Hi I own a 2004 gto and its been great. It hasnt given me one problem so far. The cars a sleeping rocket. No one messes with me at a light. A Magnum hemi tried recently And I ate him up. I kinda felt bad for the guy .


July 13, 2007 5:32 PM

I have an impulse Blue 05 GTO, and a 1966 tri-powered 389 GTO. What I don't understand is, in the past, the market for the GTO was muscle- meaning GTO vs. mustang, charger, etc. Well, why did they decide to change that market to go towards BMW and Lexus? If they really wanted to GM could have changed the look of the GTO, put more advertising, and maybe even made a new Judge that had ram air or a supercharger of some sort. The people that care to buy the GTO most likely are the people that drove them when they were 16 back in 66'. Yes its got power, trust me I KNOW, I am surley impressed. But there aren't any options, not performance packages, not one commercial, and now they say its not making sales. Well Gee, GM lets think here, why the hell would there be sales. The majority of the public doesnt want a "New Age GTO". They want a good old fashioned GOAT that eats the hell out a mustangs like it always has. Not a Geee Thee Ohhhh that rides smoother than a BMW. For any GM employee thats reading this, Please do America a favor, get the engineers to redesign a new GTO that is slightly retro, or at least way muscley, with an engine that the rustang lovers cant even comprehend and put it on the market. Garunteed it will sell like wild fire. All of the GTO enthusiests well spend 45K on a GTO that reminded them of the past, (blowing the doors off of every mustang it encounters).


July 20, 2007 2:19 AM

i dont mind GTOs but i happened to race a corvette with the same ls2 motor with a dodge magnum srt-8,fully stock he took off well faster than me in fact it was at 75-80mph wen i cought up to him then passed him but my cars governor locks up at 145mph but he DIDNT win i slowed down so GTOs not tonite baby ....MOPAR OR NO CAR!!!


July 22, 2007 2:24 PM

Gto is a nice car...Pontiac tried to "sell" it"s 0-60 performance (4.8)xxx> real world( 5.1-5.3) reality the GTO is more of a top-end has rear drive with to much torque to get a really good 0-60 STi"s and Evo"s always smoke em at the race track ( seen it over and over) because of their AWD system...each car has its sweet spot....STi"s 0-60 (4.6) and qt mile 12.8- 13.00 .....GTO"s like to sit still and burn rubber....but once they get going and get traction...they are OK for top end. But who wants to go 100 mph plus....todays world is more about quickness 0-60....which the gto is not....but good top end Period.


July 22, 2007 9:43 PM

I have an 06 GTO and have been racing anything out there. Chargers, Mustangs, Wrx's ect. I haven't lost yet. These fools out here love lining my pockets with their cash. In fact i even let my wife do the honors. Undoubtedly the GTO is a BEAST!


August 21, 2007 9:27 PM

I've had a Torch Red 06 GTO for over a year now and have had 20k trouble-free miles. Interior is light-years ahead of North American made GMs and the seats fit like a glove. Besides, this is a replication of the original GTO formula: a big engine in a mid-size body, except that it has handling and brakes to match now!

As for the driving experience, the Goat is a true BEAST. At first, it was like trying to walk a pack of Rottweilers! Now, carving up highways or curvy roads is no sweat. I've even beaten supercharged Jags (S-Type R) that cost twice as much! SVT Cobras, Charger R/Ts or SRT8s, even Boxsters are no match for the Billy Goat. This is about the fastest car to EVER carry the Pontiac dagger.

A true muscle car it is. And it ROCKS!


September 14, 2007 4:50 PM

I have a 06 GTO spice red and it is amazing. Whoever says that the styling is cheesy, bland, etc is a retard. I get compliments on my car every day it seems like. The styling is awesome. If I wanted a GTO that looks like the old ones I would buy a old one. I am glad that it does not look like the old GTOs, because I would like to have a old GTO and I dont want my new one to look like the old ones. Its this day and age. The past cars are the past. Anyway, the car is awesome and the powerplant and styling is the best bang for the buck. If you dont believe me do some research and if you dont have one, you dont know how they drive, so dont no what they are capable of. Bring it.

Guy Beinthier

October 8, 2007 9:26 PM

GTO? oh really, yawn.
Hey! look at that new Mustang!

Lee James

November 4, 2007 5:58 PM

ha ha ha! mustang, the biggest piece of crap going and you fell for it. it sucked it the 60s and 70s and guess what, it sucks now! anything but the rustang.

Robert Rivera

November 16, 2007 9:21 AM

I have an 06 Torrid Red GTO. I love this car. I test drove the Mustang, and it failed by comparison with the GTO. There's nothing better than driving my car and people just staring at it. It's great.

mark d

January 1, 2008 4:29 AM

i've had a torrid red 06 GTO for a month. what a car! luxurious seats that cradle you in turns, solid roadworthyness. heads turn when i drive by slowly. the 400 hp motor combined w/ a 6speed manual is AWESOM! shut the door and you'll know it's well engineered


January 4, 2008 2:57 AM

i've got a '65 gto that i'm about to start restoring and was surfing for some how-to videos and accidently found this site. i've learned alot about the 04-06 gto's and what opponents they'll smoke. i kind of wish gm had made the car look retro too. it would have been a respectful salute to the car that started the muscle car era.(at least that's what most car enthusiasts\historians say)

Michaux tucker

January 15, 2008 11:02 AM

jon my 91 dodge dynasty would smoke your magnum srt8.. I have a 3.8l 392hp pushin 375ft/lbs of torque. Any way my mom has an 04 gto that she paid right at $20,000 for used with 6,000 miles on it. She has never been out ran by anything. she has raced supras srt4/6/8/10 corvettes.....
only mod she has is a borla eshaust!


January 29, 2008 2:18 PM

I have drove the 06 GTO and for one i love it.... the powers there and the handling i couldn't be more happier i am looking to buy one asap

Joshua Guidry

February 12, 2008 12:15 AM

I may only be 18 but i currently owe a 1990 GTA Trans-am, and recently i've been looking at an 06 GTO i found at a used car lot. I got to test drive it and i have to say that it is a BEAST and im going to do anything to get into it. oh and you idiots that sa y the GT got something on the GTO maybe you sould open your eyes cause i dont think you understand.

Dave Guillo

February 15, 2008 12:26 AM

I currently own a gto 05. The fastest stock car that i have owned. its a beast, also a nice tight ride, the car does is not even 2 years old and i already have 62,345 miles on her. and still a tight ride no squeeks, and as for the mustang it does not even compare, i beat them the charger srt-8 porsches and many other fast cars out there, and everybody says that the looks suck, then howcome i always get complimented on how nice she looks, key is to throw anice pair of rims on it, my advice is to get one or drive it and youll love it.


February 20, 2008 9:06 PM

I have a 06 gto , all the people that see the car always tell me thats a nice car! pretty color!(impulse blue) 6 speed


March 13, 2008 7:27 PM

Just bought an 06 automatic. What a car. I love the fact that it doesn't stand out. Rice burners and Mustangs are no match. LOVE IT!


March 20, 2008 12:41 PM

i have an 06 gto, and last week i beat an 08 vette with the Z51 package? i dont think any SRT can do that .... this is the best muscle car of the 2000s for the price.


June 17, 2008 8:09 PM

Its funny how alot of people compare a GTO to a Mustang GT and brag how its faster. Well no *%$#!!! Last time I checked it has a 400 hp engine compared to a 300hp. If one was to increase the hp on a Mustang GT to 400hp, who would be faster then? The Mustang GT is at least a couple of 100 pounds lighter. Maybe its better to compare a GTO to a car that is similar in hp and weight to be fair and not sound like ricers. And please dont whine the streets arent fair. I would like to see someone compare their GTO to a new corvette. Let me guess, someone is going to brag how they beat one. The truth is the person in the corvette didnt know how to drive!!!!With a 400hp motor and weighing about 3200 pounds, a corvette will smoke a GTO. This a more reasonable comparison then a 25,000 Mustang GT with 300hp.


July 2, 2008 7:14 PM

I raced an 06' GTO last weekend in my "rustang". I purchased my 07' for 27k and added the Whipple supercharger which brought the price of the car to 32k (GTO price?). The GTO looked like it was standing still when I took off...


July 3, 2008 7:39 PM

Hey Rustang-He was standing still, you beat a guy who wasn't racing. Good job.

I have an 04 Goat with the smaller 5.7 and still blow away mustangs all day, a cobra I raced hanged, but that was as close as he got. Its gonna be ugly when I bolt up that turbo... exotic killer for 15K used, plus 5k for the turbo set up...


July 10, 2008 11:13 AM

Yo, I own a 2006 gto m6 and love it. Very glad pontiac did not go retro with the car. The original gto was,from a styling point of view, nothing more than a lemans with a different grille,tailight and in later years bumpers. Always thought the chevelle ss and olds 442s were better looking. I also own a 2000 ws6 T/A. The gto is a far more solid car. GM north america should concentrate on engine development and let holden do the coach work. Vastly supperior product. Now for Rustang. Ever notice LS powererd GMs with head/cams swaps? Modern 3 valve stangns have to resort to forced induction to even get close to the numbers put out by these cars. And I do not have to remove my motor to do a head swap. I am not biased to GM either. My wife owns a 2004 cobra and it is an awesome car. Much better looking than `05-`08 mustangs.

06 Gto Owner

July 30, 2008 4:37 AM

OK SRT8 guys enough of your bull s*%t and Mustang guys really! If you have a SC 390hp Mustang you can kinda brag. The GTO will beat your SRT8s and your mustangs stock and to the guy with the SRT8 that says that he beats C6 Vetts dream on tard! a plain jane Vette has 400hp a Z51 has 430 a Z06 has 505 and the new ZR1 630 hp Good luck SRT8 barge owners and 300hp mustard stains! You need to go back to school it is power to weight ratio. R-tards!


August 2, 2008 9:10 PM

Glad to see this thread still active. I just don't get these guys saying they beat a Vette with their SRT8. Doesn't it dawn on them that maybe the Vette owner backed off. I've never raced an SRT8 but looking at the specs they'd be pretty closely matched and would depend on the driver. I just think Dodge products suck or I'd own one. The new Challanger looks pretty cool but until I come back to the US I won't have a first hand view of build quality. But as a Holden built body I'd have to say that the GTO is unfair to current GM offerings in build quality. I never had any interest in buying an American car becuase many of them are just cheap. Guess I never really needed a newer car as my pickup does me fine. And then one day I stopped at a local GM dealership to check out a newer truck. There she was all shiny black and 400hp. There went my new truck. But I've had a 68 GTO since 1990 (never driven as it needs restored) and stopped in Perth/Freo in 2003 and checked out what was to be the new GTO. Awesome but I had hoped for a 2008 model to offer a 40 yr span. Well since the 06 was the last yr (for now anyway) I broke down and got one. While I am looking forward to the new Camaro, I'm not sure if I want to sell my Goat for it. It just is a great car and a fantastic touring machine. While I know it's stupid to compare my GTO to the likes of the new Jaguar XKR or Maserati Granturismo, I'll take my car any day. I guess if they were giving the other ones away I'd take one but with a set of twin turbos and Pedder suspension they'd never catch me. All about bucks and whose got 'em. I don't have a ton of green so I'll just enjoy my 06. Cooler air getting to the engine helps our engines as heat soak just kills our hp.


August 3, 2008 6:09 PM

agree with 06 gto owner i have an 08 c6 and will wipe the floor with that cheap ass discontinued srt8 magnum bring it on


August 5, 2008 3:35 PM

In June 08, I sold my E430 Benz and went shopping. I was looking for a used M3 when I happened upon an 06 GTO M6 Silver/red intr. WOW! In 1987 I bought one of the last 87 GN's from my local Buick Dealer and sold it 3 years later. I can tell you they will have to pry the keys to my GTO from my cold dead hands. It's that good. Anyone who says the style isn't there is just wrong.The car runs like a beast and never fails to impress. I just added and SLP Loudmouth exhaust and KN cold air intake. My buddy was braging about his $70,000 Audi S4 and laughed at the GTO. I wasn't long before he was crying about his $70,000 mistake


August 11, 2008 10:17 AM

Wow, I am glad to see the argument continues! After a friend bought a new Vette in 2005, and then being reluctant to drive it regularly because of the huge investment, it struck me how ridiculous that was. A few weeks later, I learned about the 05 Goats having the same power plant, so I figured why not try one. One test drive is all it took. The car is built solid, very comfortable interior, handles great, and the motor is smoking hot. Not once did the 'not retro' thought enter my mind. Then or now. In fact I'm very glad it is not retro. Most of the Mustang guys I have raced (Roush and Shelby, not plain Jane GT), give me a thumbs up after they get spanked. Same for anything with a Chrysler brand except for Viper. Imports, bring em on. Yeah, I've had some upgrades done. But my total investment is still way shy of a Shelby Mustang or a Challenger SRT8 and I have smoked both. And after three years of hard driving, the car is still rock solid. Matter of fact, I got a ribbon in a 350 car show just this week, with lots of 'the other brands' ribbon-less... So apparently retro really just doesn't matter, now does it?
Unless you're hell bent on having what everybody else drives.


August 16, 2008 3:26 PM

In the price range of the 06 gto, the only car that keeps up is a supercharged svt cobra 03 or 04ish. Unfortunately for all of you who have spent 50,000 on an srt8 or a bmw m3, or a supercharged pernelli jones mustang, the loud nothing but noise gto will smoke you hands down. The argument as to whether or not the mustang or charger are cooler than the gto, will go on for ever. So it all comes down to facts. Speculate all you want, but the bottom line is the gto is the cutting edge for its price range.
Having owned a cobra myself, I can now say how nice it is to be able to smoke every pimply faced kid driving his moms mustang gt. That satisfaction is derived from how effortless the transition from cruise to smoke really is. Fyi, you are looking at a 130,000 porche to outrun the gto at the drag strip. None of their less expensive models will hang.

04 Goat

August 22, 2008 6:09 PM

I love how my gto is such a sleeper if only the rustang owners knew what was under the hood.


September 25, 2008 2:57 PM

I have to just shake my head and smile every time i stomp the pedal in my 04 GTO, amazing how they can put such a refined car behind that much torque. My Mustang GT just sits in the garage, i'm going to get a cover for it so it dosn't collect to much dust, might give it to my son cause he'll never get the GTO.

A. Walsh

December 12, 2008 1:22 PM

in the last 4 years, i have owned a 2000 trans am convertible, and 04 GTO, and now own an 06 GTO. I get so annoyed at all these haters. Everywhere i go i gotta argue with some idiot about my "cavalier" lol all i do is point out the LS2 and they dont say anything. i NEVER wanted a retro car...if i want a 1972 looking GTO, ill go buy one and restore it. Besides it so much better built than Rustangs. they are cheap. I have driven my goat cross country without even getting uncomfortable or bored for that matter. people are just cheap and didnt wanna spend the extra money on goat. I think the whole retro look is so blah looking. you can spend thousands of dollars on mustang upgrades, but no matter what you so they will never turn a head. everywhere i drive i see them all around me. when i drive my brazen-orange goat with volant CAI, flowmaster exh, pacesetter LT's...people just stop in awe...

Goat Lover

January 12, 2009 2:59 AM

I've driven nearly every late-model muscle car there is. The GTO's drivetrain is unmistakealbly the best. The LS2 will just not quit, it pulls like a freight train. The interior.... you want a better one you need to go holler at mercedes Benz or BMW and have about 50 grand or more to shell out on it. Exterior, all you people calling it a cavalier... I don't know what cavaliers look like where you live but here they look similar to 95 eclipses. I could understand saying it looks like a 97-04 grand prix gt or somethin like that. it looks like that because it's more of a sports-luxury car. notice how it resembles bmw 3 series and audi and volvo coupes. and that long back window, that's for legroom in the backseat that is as good as any mid-size sedan. overall I give GTO 10/10. deny it if you want to, that's just the way it is dumbasses.


March 2, 2009 12:07 AM

Anyone who thinks this is not a true GTO is highly mistaken. This car is exactly what the old GTO was, a regular car that GM said lets put the biggest motor we have into this car. All any doubters have to do is take one spin in this great car and they will understand what a fantastic car it really is. This car is like a sawed-off shotgun in a trenchcoat. The best part of owning is car is that you dont see many on the road like you do with the rustangs. I will never give up my 06 brazen orange GTO.


March 16, 2009 1:54 AM

everyone rags on the 04+ gto because it is "nothing like the origional"... what if it was called something else?

Then what would you have to say about this 400hp rwd leather clad sports car?

Open your eyes.

J Funk

March 27, 2009 1:28 AM

I own an 06 Impulse Blue GTO with 4000 miles on the odom.It has the dealer installed SLP Bobcat 455 package- puts the HP at 455. What an unbelievable ride. Was working on an 07 Vette today and the difference in the interior quaility really struck me. The Vette felt cheap inside (plastics and leather). The GTO interior has a much more quality feel. I too like the design of this incarnation of GTO but hey I also think the 95-99 Monte Carlo Z34's look nice. Just my preference. Oh and I have yet to find anyone to beat me...

Scott Funk

April 13, 2009 1:33 AM

I have to say, I am a Ford fan. But I recently went out and purchased a 2002 Chevy Silverado to get overy my Ford bias. All that truck did was break. I am 19, so I don't have money for a payment and repairs. So I gave up hope on GM. Then last week I traded it in for an 06 GTO six speed... Well worth the $$! My favorite car is a 67 Mustang Shelby GT500, you know what ties? ... The GTO. And all of this coming from a Ford fan lol. By the way, of course it smokes the Mustang, you are taking a 6.0 and racing it against a known problematic 4.6L. Yay, you are so cool now. It's like bragging that your Grand Prix GTP beat a four cylinder Grand Am. I will agree as well on the interior. The Ford interior seems cheap. My GTO even has Suede tripped lower dash panels. I give GM an A+


August 3, 2009 9:20 PM

I own a 2006 Spice red GTO, I freakin love this car, I have 17k on it and it is in flawless condition. I have catback exaust and the flowmasters just make it sound superb. I do not really hate on other cars but i had my pick from mustang to trans am's to chargers and challenger, but this one sold me on style and interior plus the power is the shit i dont know if i ever want to part from this vehicle.


September 8, 2009 4:16 AM

Gto kills price tag alone zooooom


September 8, 2009 4:16 AM

Gto kills price tag alone zooooom

the truth!

September 28, 2009 4:26 PM

I have to say you guys are smoking crack. I have a 06 gto with a 6 liter and a 05 mustang gt with a with a 4.6l both are pretty much stock with a few bolt-ons both. And i can tell you in a race on street and at the strip. That the mustang is faster off the line hands down. Now im not a ford fan just a realist and i can tell you that the gto is quicker in the middle and top end acceluration go figure a 6 liter. But with the price tag of the gto.I would of been better buying the mustang and saving some money. the mustang quicker off the line with 3.55 gears and live rear end,handles way better and weights about seven hundred pounds less then the gto. Dont get me wrong i love my gto. But performance wise and money wise i would have better off saving the money from the gto and just spent 6 grand on a kenne bell for the stang. Now thats the truth! Or you can just talk about racing stories about how you smoke mustangs. well i've got news for you for what you paid for the gto you should be able to beat a mustang . I only paid 25,000 for my mustang gt fully equipt. GTO 36,000 still like it. but the smarter money is with the mustang. maybe gm should have a meeting with ford because there on to somthing.

the truth!

September 28, 2009 4:26 PM

I have to say you guys are smoking crack. I have a 06 gto with a 6 liter and a 05 mustang gt with a with a 4.6l both are pretty much stock with a few bolt-ons both. And i can tell you in a race on street and at the strip. That the mustang is faster off the line hands down. Now im not a ford fan just a realist and i can tell you that the gto is quicker in the middle and top end acceluration go figure a 6 liter. But with the price tag of the gto.I would of been better buying the mustang and saving some money. the mustang quicker off the line with 3.55 gears and live rear end,handles way better and weights about seven hundred pounds less then the gto. Dont get me wrong i love my gto. But performance wise and money wise i would have better off saving the money from the gto and just spent 6 grand on a kenne bell for the stang. Now thats the truth! Or you can just talk about racing stories about how you smoke mustangs. well i've got news for you for what you paid for the gto you should be able to beat a mustang . I only paid 25,000 for my mustang gt fully equipt. GTO 36,000 still like it. but the smarter money is with the mustang. maybe gm should have a meeting with ford becuase there on to somthing.


December 28, 2009 4:38 AM

Well, as was stated earlier, the GTO was only a 3 year deal from the get go. Also as stated, it was kinda expensive when new, BUT YOU GOT WHAT YOU PAYED FOR. And last but not least, just ask ANYONE who's driven one or owns one....I DOUBT THERE'S A MORE LOYAL AND SATISFIED OWNER BASE! PERIOD!

I have yet to meet a single "New GOAT" owner who is talking of getting rid of their GTO.

I was saving for 2 years for a new Camaro and now that it's out there's no way in H#LL I'd trade it in! lol in fact I bought TWO! Both 05's. and without a limiter she'll do 171+mph. oh, and as far as traction of the line, learn to drive! The original GTO was notorious for no traction back in the day too, never mind it was just a LeMans with hood scoops and the biggest engine in it...hmmm sounds like the new GTO IS RETRO AFTERALL!! lol

And one last thing, if you have a so called "sports car" that doesn't suffer from traction issues and isn't AWD, YOU AIN'T MAKIN ENOUGH HORSE POWER! LOL


March 7, 2010 8:49 PM

Mustangs on every corner. GTO is the real performer. I laugh at the person that says he can smoke c6 vettes and goats in his srt8 magnum. My GTO will beat on your magnum period. As far as c6 vettes they will beat on me so you are dreaming fantastic dreams.


September 23, 2010 11:18 PM

LOL your all bragging and trying to explain how your gtos are better then there pieces of junk just stop posting and go out and race em let someone laugh at me in my jet balck 2005 gto pushen 495 rwhp they will be crying by the end of the race

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