"Buy American Is The Last Reason To Buy GM"

Posted by: David Kiley on January 10, 2006

General Motors sales and marketing chief Mark LaNeve says he has considered an ad that would say “Buy American” is the last reason you should buy a GM car.

LaNeve, who announced a new pricing scheme for GM vehicles that cuts out a lot of the rebates in favor of lower sticker prices, says he got the idea when listening to a speech by Ford Americas president Mark Fields at the LA Auto Show about how Ford embodied American values and how Toyota was “desperately trying to act American.”
“We can compete on any level with the Japanese and Koreans and Europeans without talking about buying American,” says LaNeve.

I asked Honda President and CEO Takeo Fukui whether he felt Honda should walk softly these days as GM and Ford go through such financial pains. Through an interpreter, he said, No, and elaborated. “Contrary to what some executives are saying, there is more content from U.S. based suppliers in some of our vehicles than there is in many of the vehicles from Detroit.”

Reader Comments

Mike Driehorst

January 11, 2006 12:05 PM

Mr. Fukui is absolutely right. While the it hold true for several industries, "buy American" certainly doesn't fly with the automotive industry.

It depends on how you define "American." Are Hondas made in Marysville, Ohio, any less American than a Ford made in Canada or other country but sold in the U.S.?

My first car was a Tempo -- made in Canada. At the time, my dad drove a Honda Civic, made in Ohio. To me, his was more "American."

Most of today's automotive consumers are not hung up on the "made in America" label because we know how global the automotive industry is.

Mike

Philip Tursi

January 22, 2006 10:22 PM

As one who has been in the auto repair business for over 15 years now, I see the reasons why people are fleeing from american cars everyday. The main reason? I wiil single out GM cars, but all the big three suffers from the same problem. The problem is their failure to improve designs of high failure rate components such as fuel pumps or injectors on vortec engines just to name a few. These items are high priced repairs that frequently fail, but they keep a steady stream of income to my shop. People remember when the time comes for a new car how much they had to spend repairing their american car & get disgusted. They end up buying the asian import & love it from the start with very little repairs usually needed. The big three philosophy is basically the same, they all know the problem areas of their cars & ignore any improvements or redesigning. Instead they just ship more of those high prices parts to their dealers, and blame it on the owners lack of preventive maintenance. The big three needs to stop passing the buck, fire ALL their engineers & start from scratch. Thats the only way they will ever gain consumer confidence.

Debbie Howard

January 28, 2006 2:02 AM

The government should put high taxes on any vehicles that are to be shipped from overseas.
There for more people would buy American, and
more companies would want to keep there companies US based. Always buy American write whatever you
have to.

Jim

February 11, 2006 1:10 AM

"...buy American" certainly doesn't fly with the automotive industry." I have never heard a bigger line of baloney, even from a business writer. As even the foreign automakers are admitting, themselves, the difference in quality among autos and trucks sold in America is almost inconsequestial. The real reason to buy a vehicle from the "Big Three" is that American dollars, spent in America, on products produced by American companies are supporting thousands of American retirees. If the pensions of these retirees go unfunded, and they default to the Federal government, the pensioners will receive "pennies on the dollar". This new group wil be on the public dole and will draw on federal funds. Add these newly impoverished pensioners to medicaid and medicare, food stamp programs and there will be further draining of federal and state funds. Now consider the spending into the economy which will be eliminated if the pension funds dry up. So with the latest budget submitted to the congress as the largest ever, Americans would do well to support their country, their car makers and their own social systems by "Buying American"--including GM, Ford and Chrysler.

Tony Hernandez

March 14, 2006 1:20 PM

After eight years of repairs to my ford winstar meaning all kind of repairs,I am on the market for a new car and let me tell you is not an easy task, most american cars are ugly boxes and there is a trend like they'er going back to old designs, it seems that that designers for american cars lack vision. The one that captured my attention was the hummer3 and in the inside is just 222 horse power truck, even like that i try to get one but I could not get a Straight qoute from the saleman, a hour later I left the dealer after the sales manager at Royal Hummer in New Jersey Embarrassed the heck of my wife and me with an unnecessary comment just because I asked to see the car dealer invoice for the hummer we liked.

Big Jim

March 24, 2006 7:24 AM

I bought a 2001 Pontiac Grand Am brand new five years ago, all the while ignoring the little voice in my head that said "Don't do it". But I decided to go down the "Don't knock it till you've tried it" route. Well, I tried it, and I'm knocking it. Talk about a terminal P.O.S. Prior to owning this car, I had a 1993 Ford Probe GT with a MAZDA engine, a MAZDA transmission, and MAZDA mechanicals, and well as a MAZDA interior. Supposedly the exterior body on the Ford Probe was the one thing that was designed by Americans, but I think the loose translation of that means that Ford hired a Japanese guy to come over and work for them temporarily just long enough to design a body style that wouldn't be an eyesore, and thus what they ended up with was a helluva good looking car that ran perfectly as it was all Japanese in the first place, including the so-called "American" styled exterior-----HA!

During the eight years I had the Ford Probe GT with it's Japanese components---I HAD NO PROBLEMS, AND RAN THE MILEAGE UP TO 164,000 MILES! Yet at 60,000 miles, the Grand Am starting going to hell. $850 for a coolant intake gasket, replaced a bad blower motor, replaced a leaking power steering pump, a problem with the turn signals, the ceiling light fell out due to it's cheap design, and the traction control shuts down the power COMPLETELY---not partially, so if you get stuck on a slick surface, forget about getting out of it unless you manually shut off the traction control, which is the only saving grace of the P.O.S. And then there's the poor gas mileage. I get about 15 in the city, and 22 on the highway. Far below what the advertised mileage on the car was. When bought brand new it got 19 in the city, and 28 on the highway, and even after a tune up and engine analysis, it still gets that raggedy old mid 70's mileage. Kinda funny---General Motors still thinks it's the 70's. Guess again!--After owning a Japanese vehicle (Ford Probe GT thinly disguised as being an--"ahem"---American vehicle),then owning a brand new American vehicle and watching it's American components fall apart, I'm going back to Japanese. Intersting how a '93 Japanese designed American vehicle is far more technologically advanced than a 2001 American vehicle. Which leads me to say this.... Toyota/Mazda/Honda/Nissan--Here I come!

Mike Driehorst

March 25, 2006 10:57 PM

Chrysler is American? Not anymore, and it hasn't been since it was bought by DaimlerBenz. Make no mistake. That was no merger. It was an acquisition: 55%vs.45%.
There is no "Big Three." Just a "Big Two," and those two are shrinking. Their lunch is being eaten by Toyota and Honda, plus a few others up-and-comers.

Mike

Allen

March 26, 2006 12:16 PM

"If the pensions of these retirees go unfunded, and they default to the Federal government, the pensioners will receive "pennies on the dollar". I could give a damn about these retirees. Who else in this country gets as sweet a deal as they do? Let's create an economy that is beneficial to all and not just an elite few.
They were promised too much. I'm sorry that reality bites.

Matt

April 13, 2006 7:11 PM

Accidents in quality do happen when you buy a GM.
In 1995, I bought a GMC Sonoma 4x4 and have had no regrets owning it for 11years and 110k miles. It has been bullet proof in all respects.
My only regret is that GMC did not follow through with an as good or better replacement for it. The Canyon/Colorado with its "5 cylinder"(neutered 6cylinder which was rated as one of the best engines) was a death wish for the Canyon/Colorado. From what I read, it was designed in, conjunction with Isuzu, which is, as we all know is in intensive care as far as a car company is concerned.
My replacement for the Sonoma will be a 2006 Nissan Frontier NISMO 4x4 with a real 6cylinder engine boasting 265hp on 87 octane. Its heritage is from Nissan's 3.5-liter engine, which is rated as one of the 10 best engines.
PS GM's 5cylinder does not offer any mpg advantage to make matters worse.

Ron Rickerds

May 6, 2006 10:37 AM

American companies have been screwing us for many years because they had no competition.... quality sells, GM, Ford have been putting new wrappers on old technology for decades and they are being paid for their lack of "patriotism" to all Americans.... the Corvair was an abortion, Olds engines put in Cadillacs.. Chevy engines needed to be "dropped" to change the spark plugs,
buy Cadillac parts at the Chevy dealerhips at a far less price.....same parts sold at less expensive dealers...... Future dealerships will be Chevy/Ford.... but the execs were making the money at the expense of labor and their customers.

Pater

May 27, 2006 11:40 PM

What has GM ever done for me besides crank out crap cars that I spent a fortune repairing? And what have GM workers ever done besides demand more and more money, which adds to the price of the cars? Now that better cars are available, let the Big 2 rot in a well-deserved death. Nothing good ever comes out of Detroit anyway.

Mir Ali

May 29, 2006 9:59 PM

GM is its own worst enemy! I have owned Cadillacs for the past 15 years. Not only do I love them but am also its most vocal supporter. Then I met with an accident. While I lay at the roadside on a highway in Tennessee, the Onstar service and its cell phone failed to function. My complaint to Onstar was responded with; "Read the fine print. It will not work under certain conditions". I approached the GM Customer Support to point out the Onstar response and the fact that GM advertisements claim ambulance service and roadside service in emergencies and; questioned if they know how many waited on the roadside, in vain, after an accident for the promised service.
The response was simply arrogant: "Cancel your Onstar subscription, if not happy".This Cadillac lover will never buy another GM car!

Joe Lonsdale

June 16, 2006 7:21 PM

Buy American? Never again. I have owned a Dodge Grand Caravan that had multiple problems. My wife wanted it and it never failed to let us down. The fuel pump broke when it was less than two weeks old. Took over a month to get it out of the Dodge Dealership shop. Once on a Friday night it left us stranded at the church parking lot while leaving for a Boy scout camping trip.The power steering pump died, leaving a bunch of stranded Scouts and me. Once we were preparing to leave for a trip to Hershey Park with a van full of kids, the ABS crapped out in our driveway. We were all packed up and ready to head home from our week at the Beach when the P.O.S. would not start. Had to be towed home 180 miles. Bad times ensued. My P.O.S. Ford Ranger 4WD Truck had a solenoid operated transfer case for the 4WD system that left me stuck in the snow and unable to get to work or home from skiing trips. The piece of crap totally died at 87,000 miles. My Japanese cars have included a Toyota Corolla that lasted 297,000 miles and outside of tires, brakes, and batteries the only thing that failed was an alternator that acted a little funky on the way to work one day. My buddy bought a new alternator for $30.00 and replaced it at lunch time. I had a Datsun 280 ZX that had 250,000 miles when a delivery truck ran a stop sign and totalled it. I currently drive a 1996 Subaru Impreza with 190,000 miles and an Infinty G35 Coupe that beats the crap out of these back country roads. My wife drives an Honda CRV and my sons both drive AWD Subarus Imprezas. Oh yeah, my truck is a 1993 Toyota Pickup, 175,000 miles that I haul mulch and garden stuff with every weekend and my son uses for landscaping 3 or 4 days a week. I will never buy another Detroit made P.O.S. Joe Lonsdale White Hall, Md.

Mikeb

June 25, 2006 6:02 AM

I haven't had much trouble with my grandpa's '92 Buick Le Sabre. I've gone speedbumping at the speed limit (40) and only suffered a window that won't roll down recause my loser friend slammed the door with all his might. My grandpa's '98 GMC 4.3l vortec has been pounded. It took damage to the front a while back, and was fixed for a reasonable price. Later we hit a 12" dia rock at 60mph. After putting on the spare tire, the alignment was just a little bit off. Both have seen burnouts too.

RobinCheddarHeader

July 2, 2006 12:40 AM

There is no sense in rewarding American car companies with your business unless they've earned it. I have owned Chevys, Toyotas and Hondas and so far the Japanese makes have been much more reliable and have gotten better gas mileage. 'Nuf said...

christina miller

July 4, 2006 3:12 PM

Buy American??!?? They expect us Americans to forget the power that the 'big 3' have held over our heads for all these years??! guess again! I'm sure as hell not paying a ridiculous amount of cash for a silly neon or whatever they call them now so that the union workers can bitch that they're only getting $30/hr plus benefits and all the trimmings!

Besides, who have you known that's complained about their asian vehicle as much as a domestic? It's very true about how the big 3 have screwed us over by putting the same poorly made components with KNOWN problems into each and every p.o.s they make and when things go wrong, they either try to put a lid on it or blame the consumer when things get publicly known...oh and not to mention the fact that they seem to always make sure we're out of warranty when things do happen. I've never known an American car manufacturer to stand by their products.

They need to take a lesson from Nissan/Honda/Toyota...perhaps they already have the hard way .Perhaps it's too late. Serves them right!! Americans deserve a well built car and if it comes from the asian markets, then so be it!

Shame on GM/Ford and Chrysler for knowingly not providing the quality that we all deserve. We lead far too busy lives for our cars to let us down not to mention the heavy costs behind them.

May GM/Ford and Chrysler rot in hell. This time we have the power to screw THEM over!!! Feels damn good doesn't it?!

CHRIS JOHN

October 7, 2006 2:33 AM

Well, there seems to be some bitterness on the Big 3. I love the look of the Doge Carger and Ford Mustang, not sure about there reliability. I drive a Mazda Protage, bought brand new in 2000. After only putting 42,000 Km on it, the Ignition Module went, cost $2000.00, dealer paid. Last year, the fuel pump went, cost me $300.00. So there you go, nothing is perfect, even my little Mazda Protege, built in JAPAN !!!!

Steve

October 15, 2006 5:57 PM

You can have your Asian cars, I tried a Honda Civic and was burnt severely. Total POS! Failed head gaskets, warped head, then collapsed cylinder walls, no power, bad gas mileage, and the rust! I got rid of it at 40k miles when it wouldn't get a sticker because of the rust holes in the floors. I went back to Fords and never looked back. My Fords have been great.

You can have my allotment of asian cars, I prefer vehicles I can rely on.

Bill Kelly

October 16, 2006 1:31 AM

My wife has a Honda CRV with nearly 80,000 miles on it and the front and rear brakes are still the originals. We never wash or wax the Honda CRV, it gets an oil change roughly every 6,ooo to 7,000 miles, the air filter has been changed only one time and that was at around 60,000 miles, and its now on it's second set of tires, but everything else is original. We both love the CRV, its fun to drive and a pleasure to own.

I've owned several GM cars and trucks, but like everyone else I've had nothing but problems, here, for example, take my 2001 Buick LeSabre with only 38,000 miles on it, is it normal for every window in the car to fall down into the door while you’re driving or asleep in your bed at night? This happened five times already and only one of those times it was under warranty and the rest after, the dealer charged me $478.00 to fix it each time for the other four times it broke after the warranty expired. I asked the dealer if this was a common problem and they said it was, so I asked them what do the other owners that are experiencing these same window problems having you do because it's so expensive to fix, and he replied, that some of the owners are having the windows permanently pinned shut and that he could do this for us for only $80.00. If I was to have my windows pinned permanently shut each time this happened I wouldn’t be able to open any of my windows. To make matters worse I had to have the intake manifold and intake gaskets replaced because the engine coolant was leaking into the intake manifold and burning it out the exhaust. This cost me over $800.00 to fix. I don't know why, but every month I have to add a quart of oil, I don't visually see any leaks on the ground and now I'm afraid it's another gasket or something worse that's going to cost an arm and a leg to fix. Just last week I began to notice my windshield fogging up when I turned on my front widow defroster, it smelled like antifreeze engine coolant, so I took it to the dealer and they said it looks like my heater core went bad. The brakes on this car are going to be replaced this week, and that’s at 38,000 miles.

I had a 1998 GM Chevy Malibu and at 67,000 miles I had to have the intake manifold gaskets replaced because the engine coolant was leaking internally into my engine oil. After having the gaskets replaced I noticed a slight knocking sound in my engine and the dealer said it was because when the engine coolant mixed with the oil the oil was unable to lubricate the internal engine components and this lead to excessive bearing wear. After the intake gasket dilemma, my radiator sprang a leak and that cost me around $600.00 to have fixed. Immediately after the radiator was repaired the heater core sprang a leak under my dash and soaked the entire passenger side floor with engine coolant. On the climate controls, fan speeds one and two never worked so I had to have something called a resistor bank replaced. The AC would always turn on and off so I had to have the entire climate control module replaced. The front hub bearings started grinding so I had them replaced. Shortly after all that, the car began to stall and run rough and the dealer told me it needed new fuel injectors, so I had them replaced. I had the headlight assemblies replaced several times because they would fill up with water. I got into the habit of changing my rear brake light bulbs several times a year because the bulb sockets kept melting. When the car hit 78,000 miles I noticed my transmission wouldn’t shift up to 2nd gear until the engine RPM's hit nearly redline, in other words, it was sticking in first gear. I almost forgot, about the constant ABS lights, and when I went to stop at a stop sign or a red light if there was a bump or a crack in the road just before the stop the cars ABS would actuate and the car would continue to coast through the stop sign and red light, it didn't even matter how hard I pressed down on the brake pedal, it just wouldn’t stop rolling. Oh by the way, the brakes on my Chevy Malibu had to be replaced every 30,000 to 35,000 miles.

There you have it, now you know why my wife and I will never buy a so called American car. If their so American then explain to me why tens of thousands of American steel worker lost their jobs when the big 3 decided to buy foreign steel from China instead of the steel that was being produced here in the US?

Sincerely,
Bill Kelly
YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT TO HELL YOU SO CALLED AMERICAN SUPPORTNG BIG 3

Bruce

October 18, 2006 1:45 AM

I have had a 93 Olds Cutlass Supreme that I put 180K on with no problems other than tires, batteries and an alternator. I also have had a Ford Escort for 8 years that has never given me a problem. My latest car is a Chrysler PT Cruiser which had a dashboard light go out at about 25K. As far as Asian cars go, I'm sure they run as well as people say however they are just not my style. I think their lack of style is what turns me off to them. Almost every car they make is indistinguishable from the next. From 20 feet away I can't tell the difference from most Hondas, Kias, Nissans, Toyotas etc. It's like the battle of the cookie cutter sedans. I like to call the model 4 doors, a hood and a trunk. This coupled with the fact I have never had any problems with my Ford's or GM's means I am not buying foreign.

todd

October 19, 2006 1:04 AM

i had a 04 toyota tundra with a lot of problems. after a few weeks the dealer gave me another one. same problems and an extra one. i kept it about a year and traded it in for a silverado. the silverado was alot cheaper, the inside not as nice but i have had alot less problems.. so who can really tell what is going to happen. i have had a few grand prixs (still drive one every day) and it still runs and drives like new with 125k on it. it is roomier than most of the jap cars and cost alot less. up until my tundra night mares i was always a toyota fan. the only thing i miss is their service. it is the best. chevy dosent want to hear about a problem or they say that chevy wont cover it even though it is a known problem so i will probally be going back to toyota in a few years if their new truck works out.

ls

October 23, 2006 6:23 PM

Just remember 9/11. Did you see China or Japan donating. NO. It was GM that kept this economy running. The quality issue is such BS. It is a perception. GM has the best quality auto's around. People get on their soap box squaking about how great Toyota and Honda are. Just look for all of their recalls.. They are buried in the back section of the news papers.

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ella

October 24, 2006 11:23 PM

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Frank

November 1, 2006 9:16 PM

I completely agree with the comment second from the top (Philip Tursi).
I have seen this scenario played out time and time again. Friends, family and just about every second person you talk to on the street will agree.

It's plain and simple:
If you want to stop hanging out in the garage and blowing serious cash buy import.

Parts for my Chevy S-10
Very poor quality, at a very high price.
$50.00 for the (bottom) fan shroud in my s-10 another $40 for the top. $1.50 for 1 trim screw,
$2.00 for 1 trim clip, $80.00 for a cab top brake light
$100.00 for the 4x4 dash swtich
$50.00 for a stereo antenna cable pt1
$50.00 for the rest of the stereo cable.
$95.00 for a drink holder
$600.00 for an injector


Seeing GM get what they deserve: PRICELESS.

Susan C

November 9, 2006 5:20 PM

I have owned the following with exceptional results:

1983 Honda Accord = 340,000 miles
1989 Honda Accord = 315,000 miles (wrecked twice and my husband drove for 2 more years after repurchasing as salvage)
1998 Honda Civic = 145,000 miles and still driving it.
The only maintenance needed on any of the above was changing oil every 3000 to 4000 miles/timing belts at recommended intervals and tires when needed. Other than that, I could not ask for a better car. I will drive the 1998 until the wheels fall off and then I will buy either a new Honda or Acura. As far as Detroit goes, sorry, fool me once shame on me fool me twice-ain't gonna happen. (Good luck with that quality issue you're having-don't think the rest of us want it anymore.)

Bob

November 10, 2006 6:30 PM

If I go to a dealership, I am there to buy a car... Not to donate money to a charity. If a foreign cars provides the best value for the $, I'm going with them.

Furthermore, what business does Chevy showing pictures of the New Orleans disaster and the lights at the Twin Towers site in their latest commerical? Are they seriously using the images from those tragic events to persuade me to go buy their product? Freaking shamefull.

Traditional

November 11, 2006 1:29 PM

Genral Motors has made outstanding products ever since they have been in existence. These imports like Honda and Toyota in my opinion just plain suck. Sure they are cheap. And for a cheap price you get cheap transportation with absolutely no power. You morons can bash General Motors as well as other American Vehicle companys all you want, but real Americans buy American made vehicles and only Sissy Americans buy Jap imports. I am not the only one in this country that see's modern day vehicles this way either.

Edward McClelland

November 12, 2006 10:42 AM

I don't get it. These so-called American car makers can make their cars look great, but they are not. Take the mileage for example, a simple comparison of EPA milage estimates shows they are much lower than the "import" cars.
If the American manufacturers intend to get back in to the game, it might be wise to redesign their engines as a starting point!
By the way, all these guys want is to make more profit, they do not give a damb about the loyal American car owner.

KC

November 18, 2006 12:37 AM

For work I drive either a 2001 Toyota Avalon or a 2003 Toyota Camry, while both cars have never had any mechanical problems other than brakes and basic maintenence, the damn things are too uncomfortable if your are taller than 5'8 or you weigh more than 150 lbs

I have a 2000 Chevy Malibu which I bought used and have had pretty good luck with it considering it has 120,000 miles on it and is 6 almost 7 years old... I have had to replace the shocks/struts all around, the brakes and do some general maintanence. It's comfortable and I like the way it looks and rides and I have been considering buying a 2007 Malibu, but I think I am going to look around first.

tom

November 18, 2006 6:17 AM

I have a 1995 chevy beretta that has 155000 miles runs great no rust.I drive by all the honda accords with rust holes above rear tires.gm makes great cars open your eyes look at any older accord it has rust above rear tires!!

Jerry

November 22, 2006 11:24 AM

I had a Ford Explorer for 10 yrs with only one small repair, whilch Ford did for a small $ well out of warranty. Currenly have a Windstar which I have put many miles on in two years and have only had one problem with an electrical ground. My brother has a Windstar which has 200K Plus and basically has only replaced a power streering hose at about 180k and usual brakes and things. I don't think any company has the market on longevity. The Japanese big three have all had quality lapses in recent years but seem to be forgiven more by their coustomers.

pete

November 22, 2006 8:23 PM

"The government should put high taxes on any vehicles that are to be shipped from overseas.
There for more people would buy American, and
more companies would want to keep there companies US based. Always buy American write whatever you
have to.
"
Yeah okay. Like thats going to help me believe that American cars are going to be reliable, and as high quality as asian imports?

I think you're missing the point here.
American car makers have to step up and make their car as reliable and high quality as asian imports. If you have the government step in, and tax foreign cars more, its not going to make any diffrence, if they're not improving their cars.
If you know what their doing is wrong, why support them? So they can continue making bad cars?

I think the "Buy American logo" scheme is old and is a bunch of bull. Before I worry about someone else, I need to worry about myself first. I dont have much money to be supporting this person, that person. It is the consumer who is paying the 5-6 year car loan, and nobody else.

If americans want to sell their cars, make it more reliable, put more quality into the constructions,and make it affordable. These characteristics will give you a good reputation that consumers will pass on to their friends and family. period.

jim

November 29, 2006 12:00 AM

Profits are the key. Japanes profits go to Japan. Economists will tell you that a dollar leaving the country is multiplied three fold. Japanese know this, that is why they are willing to pay more for a product in Japan than it is in the US (DVD Player for example) American car companies are in trouble, now that full size trucks are coming from Japan you won't see any Japanes Americans driving american full size trucks anymore either. Americans need to look deep before it is too late. All Japanese auto companies share resources in R&D their focus is cooperate together against non japanese companies. They say they use american workers- and they are using all of us to fill pockets in Japan. As you are driving down the road see how many Japanese Americans you see driving non Japanese cars--- Interesting.

R.Glenn Reid

November 29, 2006 4:52 PM

Attention marketing chief Mark LaNeve. You obviously do not understand the north-american market don't waist good money dropping a V8 in the Buick Lacrosse. The 3.8 and the 3.6 are adequate. If you want a V8 go to Lucerne. I'm a potential customer for this vehicle.

Ben

December 7, 2006 3:32 PM

I am from Detroit, so obviously I would never even think about buying a foreign car. However, I do agree that some japanese cars are better made than some American cars and vice versa. Certain engines, such as GM's 3800 V6 and Ford's 300 I-6 are known to routinely last well over 250,000 miles, well others crap out around 140K. My dad used to have a Datsun pickup, and after 9 years and 85,000 miles it had rusted away to almost nothing. I currently drive a 95 F150 with 155,000 miles that still drives like a dream.

Paul

December 11, 2006 9:13 PM

Sorry guy's you can keep the jap junk i'll take an american car any day...the imports break just as often and the parts are astronomically priced call it old fashioned (i am 46) but i still believe in support your country and fellow workers. i don't like sending my money overseas

Lakeshow23

December 17, 2006 7:59 PM

Most of you people here posting, are typical everyday idiots who know next to nothing about how automobiles function, how to maintain them, how to diagnose problems, and how to repair them. Most of you are complaining about a poor quality car, but you're really redirecting the anger you should all have toward your scam artist mechanics.

Intake manifold gaskets don't cause coolant to mix with oil, it's impossible for "all" windows to randomly fall down, the guy paying $95.00 for a cup holder is giving up the bootie, and the $600.00 Chevy S-10 fuel injector is absolutely embarrassingly hilarious! You people need to either learn about cars, or find new mechanics. LOL. Stay away from car dealers once the warranties run out. Don't ever go to car dealers. They are scam artists. LOL.

james sullivan

December 18, 2006 9:06 PM

i have been in the auto industry for the last ten years.there are many differences from foriegn to american. first, your american p.o.s may be repaired often, but parts are fairly inexpensive. your foriegn p.o.s may only get fixed half as often as your american car, but the parts and labor cost TWICE as much, if not more. as a technician, i spend thousands of dollars every year to keep up with new tools and training to service foriegn vehicles. it is out of hand. foriegn companies are making service so difficult, it leaves the car owner no choice but to have service performed by the dealer. there are no american cars out there that i do not have equipment to diagnose, or repair.but i can't afford to fix a volvo, audi, or vw! or everyones favorite "lexus, Infinity, and acura" and these are only the high end version of Toyota, Nissan,and Honda. all cars are money pits. dodge is the worst of all. i see the dealer cost off all parts, and trust me, its all the same. someone tell me why, on a honda crv, every 3,000 miles you MUST replace differential fluid, or you void your warranty... and a bottle of fluid costs $84.00 from the dealer. the dealer does not cover the cost of it because it is maintenance. the reason is because there is a defect in the 4x4 differentials. honda did not want to issue a recall on them, so they just force you to use a special fluid that will extend bearing life a little bit longer. so you can expect every oil change to cost around $125.00 ENJOY!!!i drive a 1997 chevy pickup with 210,000 miles. my previous was a chev s10 blazer with 235,000 miles. and before that was a 1991 s10 pickup with 275,000. and all 3 of these vehicles are still on the road and pass inspection every year.

Steve

December 28, 2006 12:04 PM

Toyota has had as many recalls in the past year as the number of vehicles they've sold in the US. GM and Ford are routinely turning out vehicles that beat foreign makes in industry quality ratings. Stop being bitter, folks. Your economy is slipping away from you and you're too short sighted to know it's happening. Don't be too overly concerned with the high paid union workers as that is all in the past. What's real, is when a plant closes down the street, suppliers, janitors, caterers, schools, doctors, police all suffer. A car, for most of us is the second biggest purchase we make. That's a lot of money to hand over to Japanese auto makers who are as protectionist as any industry in the world. Do some research before you buy - seek out a high quality American car and you won't regret it.

Roger Dodger

January 8, 2007 5:00 PM

Is buying a Chevy Aveo (made in Korea) buying American?

Is buying a Saab (GM property in Europe) buying American? Can I now buy an Aston-Martin or Jaguar(Ford's stable) and still be buying American?

Is buying a Dodge Sebring (Chrysler (German Company)made in Mexico) buying "American?"

If a tax is put on cars made "overseas" should one go on the Crown Vic, made in Canada? What about the Tundras made in Indiana, or the Nissans made in TN?

Anyone notice that even Harley-Davidson includes Asian components on its bikes? (front forks, carburetors, etc.?)--Note: Harley does not rely on marketing its product based on its origin, but instead on its perceived "American" style...and of course, its quality.

The world of vehicle manufacturing is completely globalized...this line of debate is thoroughly obsolete.

Mrs Stella Bolk

January 10, 2007 8:12 AM

Hello Dear Sir /Madam

I am the above named person from Cotonou Republic of Benin but now undergoing medical treatment in London. I am married to Dr. Davis Bolk who worked with Benin embassy in South Africa for nine years before he died four years ago. We were married for eleven years without a child. He died after a brief illness that lasted for only four days. Before his death we were both born again Christians. Since his death I decided not to re-marry or get a child outside my matrimonial home, which the Bible is against. When my late husband was alive he deposited the sum of Seven Million U.S. Dollars with one finance/security company in South Africa. Presently, this money is still with the Security Company. Recently, my Doctor told me that I would not last for the next three months due to cancer problem. Though what disturbs me most is my stroke.

Having known my condition I decided to donate this fund to church or better still a Christian individual that will utilize this money the way I am going to instruct here in. I want a church or individual that will use this fund for churches, orphanages and widows propagating the word of God and to ensure that the house of God is maintained. The Bible made us to understand that blessed is the hand that grivet. I took this decision because I don't have any child that will inherit this money and my husband relatives are not Christians and I don’t want my husbands hard earned money to be misused by unbelievers. I do not want a situation where this money will be used in an ungodly manner, hence the reason for taking this bold decision. I am not afraid of death hence I know where I am going. I know that I am going to be in the bosom of the Lord. Exodus fourteen-verse fourteen says that the lord will fight my case and I shall hold my peace.
I don’t need any telephone communication in this regard because of my health, and because of the presence of my husband's relatives around me always. I do not want them to know about this development. With God all things are possible. As soon as I receive your reply I shall give you the contact of the Finance/Security Company in South Africa. I will also issue you a letter of authority and the deposit certificate of the funds that will empower you as the original- beneficiary of this fund. I want you and the church to always pray for me because the lord is my shepherd. My happiness is that I lived a life of a worthy Christian. Whoever that wants to serve the Lord must serve him in spirit and truth. Please always be prayerful all through your life. Any delay in your reply will give me room in sourcing for a church or Christian individual for this same purpose. Please assure me that you will act accordingly as I stated herein.
Mrs. Stella Bolk

JJ

January 10, 2007 5:58 PM

Disregard that last message about Cotonou Republic of Benin . This is a scam letter; one of dozens in circulation. This person wants to take advantage of someone's greed and as PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute".

Jonathan Ritchie

January 12, 2007 1:59 AM

I have tried american cars and a couple of toyotas over the years. The worst car that I have ever owned was an 85 plymouth. Toyota was nothing like as good as the GM cars I have owned and Ford ranks somewhere in the middle of it all.
I am a mechanic so I am well aware of what should or shouldn't go on a car.
I will personally never buy foreign and since Chrysler is no longer American that includes them as well.

Screw whites

January 16, 2007 3:31 AM

Whatever, you shouldn't buy American just because Americans in the Mid-West are a lot of racist assholes who deserve to burn in their ugly ass white Caucasian shit. Fuck American cars and fuck white people - the spawn of monkeys and bird cum.

Phil Haming

January 25, 2007 10:25 PM

I have started a campaign to get a small sticker of the flag from the country of origin placed on the face of every durable good sold in America. Please visit www.ionlybuyamerican.com . Presently, the "made in" label is being hidden very well, especially on durable goods. Go to an appliance department at Home Depot or Lowes; the "made in" label is on the BOTTOM of the refrigerators, stoves, dishwashers, etc. Americans must not only be told to buy American products, they must be SHOWN what is made in the USA.

Nathan B

January 29, 2007 2:41 PM

I have owned a 1995 Honda Civic Hatchback and a 1997 Chevrolet Cavalier. I have to admit that if you are looking for the better engine you go with Honda - it requires less maintenance than a GM to keep it in tip-top shape. The engine will last you well over 200,000 miles. with no re-build. It is amazing on mileage versis your American Counterpart. On the other hand, my Cavalier only shows rust in the same spot for most cavaliers - the bottom passenger door probably due the machine press shaping the doors was never replaced (cheap GM) while my Civic was Swiss Cheese by the rear wheels. Both had original paint and looked great after a wax. The Cavalier was just a "general" car and required a heck of alot more maintenance (hence GM = general maintenance) You flush all your fluids as often as possible, and do all the preventative maintenance you can. I personally feel a heck of alot safer in an American vehicle versus a rusted out "tea cup" of a Civic. If you are concerned about value, whether it be better mileage, cost savings on repairs and increased salvage value on your car you definetely go Japanese. If you want to buy a cheaper car requiring more maintenance but is safer to drive stick to American. You choose.

joel walker

January 30, 2007 8:22 AM

I have a 97 camaro rs, with a 3.8 v 6.besides the intake manifold gaskets, how can engine oil get into the coolant? no leaks any where to the outside, no water in the oil.it just pumps all moter oil into the coolant,any ideas?

duff

February 4, 2007 1:52 PM

You can tell the American from the communist.....just by reading the comments.......Go ahead destroy America, send all the jobs and money to Japan, and China........We won the battle they are winning the economic war they are waging, and americans cant even see it.....what a shame

Jon

February 9, 2007 12:11 AM

Everyone that bashes American cars and trucks can kiss my ass!! I have been a mechanic 10 years now and have seen EVERY make of car with problems! But you know what the bigger problem is? Its the select few that will have problems with there american car, cry about it, and then go running to the F***ing imports! Don't you people have any pride in your country? Do something about your problems rather than taking the easy way out. I am a Chevy lover and always will be, but I do not disagree with SOME things said about the big 3. They did get sloppy. But thank god there are still some true americans still around buying american. Were would we be if we didn't?

proud american

February 13, 2007 12:41 PM

Buy American? Damn right!! I bought Honda Odyssey built right here in Alabama.

And don't give me any crap about domestic content, Odyssey's got more domestic content than a lot of so called domestics.

Dan

February 13, 2007 4:05 PM

Living in Michigan, I have experienced the plight of America’s auto industry first hand. Entire cities like Flint have disappeared and the rest of the State is following. Despite what opinions you have about American autos, you still have a responsibility to the rest of your country, that being to purchase American made goods to save American jobs. A few people that have posted some how think that the current situation is a punishment to GM or Ford, but the real losers are not the companies, they are the thousands of Americans who have lost their jobs.

One reason the Big 2 are struggling to compete with Japanese auto companies is because the Japanese government pays for health care and takes the burden off of the private corporations which translates into lower prices on their products. As Americans we have a duty to recognize such unbalances and level the playing field through buying the higher priced American cars.

Some foreign auto manufactures are coming to America but despite Michigan's highly trained automobile manufacturing workforce, foreign automakers choose to locate they're plants in southern states where they can avoid paying union wages and health benefits. Unions are not the enemy. They are a mechanism that allows the working man to live a comfortable life. A line worker making $70,000/yr is not by any means rich. Who is to decide what an autoworker should make? If it were left up to the global market, no American would be able to live on the wages. As soon as a Toyota or Nissan plants in America are willing to pay wages and benefits competitive with the UAW then I will happily consider them an American company.

mark

February 14, 2007 3:07 PM

its so sad to me to hear all these people bashing american cars.your bad mouthing the country you live in.where is your pride.how many japanese americans do you see driving american cars?thats right look around none!you know why because they support thier country and their people even when they live in the us.i just finished a class on economics.did you know that every import sold in the us 80% of that money goes back to asia.so every time you buy an import your not helping your country your helping japan.and the rumor that japan cars are better than us cars is just crap.i have seen several us motors run well over 200,000 miles gm 3800 v6,gm vortech v6,gm 350 v8,ford 302, ford3.o but you never hear about these motors .allyou hear about is the import motors.for all you toyota lovers toyota recalled 9.3million cars and trucks from 2004 to 2006.wake up america and start supporting the country you live in.

Brian

February 16, 2007 8:53 PM

1980 BMW 528i:

535K miles, new alternator last year. I replace all belts and hoses every 100K miles and change oil every 3000 miles. New battery two years ago, and get about 150K miles on a set of tires.

Oh, yeah almost forgot. Worst car ever owned was a VW Rabbit, closely followed by an MB 380SL. Had 2000 Chevy Blazer for a while, and liked it, but it was stolen and I decided just to drive the old BMW.

Z Watkins

February 16, 2007 10:19 PM

I HOPE THEY GO BROKE...CHRYSLERS ARE A PIECE OF CRAP

ALL I WILL BUY FROM NOW OWN IS HONDA, TOYOTA, SUBARU and NISSAN.

I have bought at least 50 new cars in my lifetime...ALL American cars sucked except my muscle cars.

Bushman

February 16, 2007 10:26 PM

It's ALL about the ECONOMY!

Stoop Id

Joe Blo

February 16, 2007 10:37 PM

"You can have your Asian cars, I tried a Honda Civic and was burnt severely. Total POS! Failed head gaskets, warped head, then collapsed cylinder walls, no power, bad gas mileage, and the rust! I got rid of it at 40k miles when it wouldn't get a sticker because of the rust holes in the floors. I went back to Fords and never looked back. My Fords have been great."

DUMBASS>>>YOU BOUGHT A CAR THAT HAD BEEN UNDERWATER!!

Southern Gent

February 16, 2007 11:28 PM

Buy only from the big 3 American Only! Who wants to buy cars in which the company is own by other countries, races and cultures. The big 3 is owned by good old Christians shareholders. It started by good old Christians WASP. The Japanese are not even Christians and the Europeans are Secularist even worst than Asians. I hope GM buy back Chrysler from the Secularist Europeans.

Buy owned and made by USA only!

Steve

February 17, 2007 8:25 AM

I owned a '87 nissan 200sx, I loved the car, it had a 5 speed hydraulic clutch & got 35 mpg. I had bought it second hand. It had it's problems though; there was a short in the radio and it always smelled of gas. The master brake cylinder when out (slowly) and I had to pump the brakes twice before it would attempt to stop. I fixed the brake cylinder, luckily I am able to do that work myself, as the part was around $160 the dealer quoted $700 to have it fixed.
With Nissan the dealers seem to be the thorn in the cars' side. I had a similar issue when I went to get the gas leak fixed, I had just graduated from college and finally had some money, the company that hired me had put me up in Dallas for 10 weeks of training, the gas smell had gotten worse so I had to get it fixed. Without looking under the hood myself I took the car to a Nissan dealer on the North side of Dallas. The service manager called later that day and claimed the throttle body was the problem and it was $2000 to get it fixed. Well I wasn't about to pay what I paid for the car to get it fixed and I told them so: The service manager/con artist was telling the car might blow up if it drove it, I paid them $75 they charged to diagnose the problem and took it to the parking lot of the apartment I was staying. I turned the car on, popped the hood and saw gas coming from under one of the injectors (that car didn't have a throttle body). The problem was that the $5 plastic injector seat was cracked. I bought the part from the dealer that had just tried to charge me $2k for the part. The "service manager" though I could see him in his office refused to talk to me, so I made quite a ruckus in the service waiting room. Made sure each customer knew they could have fixed me care in thirty minutes (I had taken about an hour I assume they are better than me that this) and instead tried to rob me for $2k. I will never buy another Nissan, and I tell every one I know about this, not surprisingly I have heard similar stories about Nissan dealers. Too bad I did love that car.

V Bloomquist

February 17, 2007 2:42 PM

In all fairness, I don't feel there are any really "bad" cars sold today in America, domestic or "import". I place the term "import" in quotes because today so many so-called imports are actually assembled right here in the United States. Is that a good thing... well, yes it is good that we still have some assembly going on here in America; however, an assembly plant is quite different from a manufacturing plant.

When you manufacture something, anything, you truly build it from scratch. You control the build of every component used in the assembly. In many cases, you will manufacture the component from the raw materials on. In other cases, you "farm out" the components to another manufacturer who often competes with other like manufacturers for the work, with the job going to the manufacturer who has the ideal combination of quality, on-time delivery, and price. Whether you are Ford, GM, Honda, Toyota, etc., you are considered by company definition a manufacturer of cars & trucks among other things.

Here is where the true difference can be found. While it is true that American automobile manufacturers such as Ford and GM do farm out some of their manufacturing to companies outside the US, close to 80% of this work (content) is still done within the United States. This is not true of the "imports". For these companies, on average, less than 10% of the content is done here, by American companies and American workers.

So what is the difference, you ask? Well, this means there is a significantly greater number of American jobs supporting a Ford or GM car versus a Honda or Toyota. As an American worker, you may not be directly employed by an automobile manufacturer; however, if the company you work for is involved in building components that go into the finished good; i.e., the family car, you should be concerned about what family car sits in your driveway.

AM

February 18, 2007 9:24 AM

Dear GM haters,
Just thought that you would like to know that over one million jobs rely on General Motors. And if GM were to go under it would probably be the end of America. The goverment woulg not be am to collect taxes on the $192,604,000,000 sales General Motors made in 2005. And General Motors (GM) has steered around competitors to remain the world's #1 maker of cars and trucks, with brands such as Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, Pontiac, Saab, and Saturn. GM also produces cars through its Holden, Opel, and Vauxhall units, and heavy-duty transmissions through Allison Transmission. GM also has stakes in Suzuki Motor, and GM Daewoo Auto & Technology. Subsidiary GMAC provides financing. GM discontinued the Oldsmobile brand in 2004. GM has been selling off non-core assets including stakes in Fiat and Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru), as well as its locomotive manufacturing business. And to the person whoo mentioned that his Ford wth a Mazda engine anddrivetrain was so great: For owns the controlling stake of Mazda (33% of it).

Bob

February 18, 2007 9:25 AM

If you fly the American flag, then buy an American car.

Bob

February 18, 2007 9:27 AM

Support the country you live in, or live in the country you support!

phillip

February 20, 2007 2:58 PM

First of all no one who chooses foreign car is a sissy. This is america and we do have choices. I own a 1999 Toyota Camry with a 4-cylinder and 117000 miles and I have changed many of the parts myself. Try changing a thermostat on some of these newer american cars. Has any boy noticed GM is not famous for strong four cylinders, remember the quad 4 engines of old. I owned a 1990 Chevrolet Corsica V6 and it was a better can than the 2001 Saturn L300 sedan. It was a overpriced and over complicated piece of European garbage. GM, Ford, and Chrysler have made better cars without a doubt, but as one of the readers put the auto executive does not care about US!!!! They forgot about us a long time when their cars went to crap and they figured because they were cheap to buy the long term cost would not matter. Toyota is not perfect, but their performance is steady, consistent, and unstoppable. Has any body thought about this, the Japanese are expanding and hiring while the Big 3 feel they can cut their way to profit and still no profit.

Romadant

February 26, 2007 12:09 PM

"Everyone that bashes American cars and trucks can kiss my ass!!" "Everyone that bashes American cars and trucks can kiss my ass!!"

Jimmy

February 27, 2007 2:22 AM

I've bought 3 new American cars and have not had any problems. I've also owned a Toyota and will not say anything too bad but it did not live up to the reputation that the company has. The ironic thing is, when my Toyota was broke, my back up car was 1965 Corvair that always ran.

Mel Chipp

February 27, 2007 4:23 PM

Question: Maybe someone will know - Is it ok to use a P205/75R-14 tire on a Mazada Protege.

Mel Chipp

B.J

March 5, 2007 4:11 PM

A tax on imports? That would kill the small 3! With the Fusion, Charger, etc.. made in Canada, Mexico the market would just open up wider for Camry, Sonata and other cars made in the USA by Americans.

I wonder if most Nascar fans realize that of the field of cars represented in front of them at every race. Only the Camry is built here. All the "American" models are made abroad. So if they want to buy American and support American jobs, maybe they should go to a Toyota dealer...just a thought.

chuck

March 10, 2007 3:16 AM

I will never own another computor controlled vehichle. I have been UPGRADING a GMC c/1500 with a 383ci and mods from hell and still I cannot (after 2 years) make their DESIGN TO FAIL electrical componants to be dependable, ECM,MODULES,IGNITION SWITCH HARNESSES,and the wiring thru-out is designed perfectly TO FAIL!! Iam looking for a pre-1974 truck to build instead of investing in "JUNK" I need to take to an incompidant technician that costs more than hes worth and still charges you when he cant fix whats wrong even though he works at the dealership I bought the truck from ! so I cant be convinced that any AUTO MAKER builds a decent vehicle for the money and the aggravation!

mave

March 12, 2007 12:17 AM

GM, Ford, chrysler still the best car in the world.

ed begley

March 20, 2007 2:38 PM

my car runs solely on the power of my will...

John Dalton

March 21, 2007 5:12 PM

If you for one minute think that the Japs or Koreans are good neighbors, think twice. We lost around 50,000 men defending the South Koreans from the North Koreans and Chinese. Think that you can export a Ford or Chevy to Korea? No way. They protect their economy. Japan puts up phony inspections etc and plays around with their currency to the extent that a Jap car is thousands of dollars cheaper than a Detroit car. We spend billions upon billions of dollars every year defending Japan. By and large the makers of foreign cars build their plants in non-union states.

As I see it, the spineless people that the citizens of this country send to Washington are somewhat to blame. Lincoln said, "Government of the people,by the people and FOR the people" in his Gettysburg address. What in the name of God have these people in Washington done "for the people" when they have allowed not only the automobile business to be exported but also the textile, shoe, clothes, furniture and the list goes on and on. It is not a question of free trade. It is a question of level playing fields. Why can't we have reciprical trade agreements? If the Asian countries impose stiff tariffs, we do the same to them. If the Japs screw around making the Yen cheap, our tarrifs should reflect the difference. Granted that every country has the right to value their own currency, but when it is shown to be tricked up, we should take action.It's about time to think about the USA. No other country worries about us. Has Kuwait or any other middle East country shown any appreciation from saving them from Sadam Hussein's ambitions?
Remember 1973 and the Arab oil embargo? the cry went out from every politician in Washington and the media to get an energy policy. Every person running for high office got on the bandwagon and said the same thing. Well, what happened? A big fat zero is what happened.

John Dalton

March 21, 2007 7:12 PM

Earlier today I wrote a message to this site. A message came up that said my article would have to be examined for any content that might be offensive (my words).I used the noun, "Jap". What is the big deal? Americans are known all over the world as Yanks, Brits as Limeys, Norwegians as herring chokers,Irish as Micks and the list goes on and on. The Japanes took three years of my life during world war two and I will call them Japs at any time. Beleive me when I tell you that they called us names that are unprintable. Maybe some of the liberal folks are not privy to this fact: When the survivors of the Bataan Death March were holding their annual reunion, not one man said that he owned a Japanese automobile.I understand that was then and this is now. We can't go on forever hating one another but: we can certainly hate a countrys trade policies, and the Japanese are dirty players when it comes to trade. The Korean are no better.

jim

March 28, 2007 10:36 AM

5yr,100,000 ml warranty tells me GM quality is superior........include 2002 to 2007 with the same warranty (like they offer) showes product confidence......if the products were "junk"the repair cost would be to much for any company to offer this warranty.Just ask Toyota and Honda.

D Leigh

March 30, 2007 9:02 PM

I've owned 4 Accords and I've always been amazed at their mechanical design and build quality. At my job I drove Chevys or Dodges every day for many years and the Hondas are at least 10 years ahead of GM and Dodge still can't build a car transmssion to save the world. I will say that GM's 3.8 is a very reliable engine, but it sucks gas. Yes I'm looking at a Honda right now. Don't give me crap about buying American (Dodge-German owned-built in Canada). Accords (and Camrys, etc.) have a higher percent of USA made parts AND labor than many American 'named' cars that are built in Canada or Mexico. If you don't believe me you can always look it up!

fb

April 3, 2007 2:31 PM

great site that lets the most important voice in the supply chain speak..the customer's. Someday you should create a similar site for RV owners. The automotive makers will seem like angels compared to the RV makers.

Timothy J. Konopka

April 8, 2007 1:32 PM

I have owned nothing but General Motors products since I made my first purchase of a used 1955 Buick Century in 1978. I still own that great "American Classic" and it is 100% road worthy with 78,000 original miles! My first new car was a 1980 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme which I purchased while serving in the Army in Kansas. I sold it in 1989 with 143,000 miles with no major problems. My other cars were/are:

1986 Oldsmobile Firenza 224,000 miles;
1993 Chevy Lumina Van 233,000 miles;
2001 Chevy Malibu 43,000 miles (leased);
2001 Oldsmobile Alero used at 38,000, going strong at 78,000;
2004 Buick Rendezvous 78,000 miles going strong;
2004 GMC Envoy 43,000 miles going strong.

I am a firm believer of supporting our great country and our industrial infrastructure. The Japanese do not have the best interest of America in mind. Remember, this is the same country that launched a sneak attack on us at Pearl Harbor in 1941 and we are now rewarding them as they attempt to destroy and dominate our automobile industry with sneaky and unfair trade practices.

Americans wake-up and take pride in your country!
Keep our country stong by supporting its industry. If we continue on this short sighted course, we will not have a country to speak of.

Keep America Strong, Keep Americans Working, Buy American!

Timothy J. Konopka
Howell, NJ

Bill Johnson

May 11, 2007 2:24 AM

It gets harder to sell both the American car side and the foreign car side all the time. I have a 2005 Chevy Silverado that has exceeded, so far, every possible expectation I can put on a vehicle as far as trouble-free operation. It sets a new standard for me for initial quality. But I've had two Ford Focuses, a 2000 and a 2005, that were on the back of wreckers with serious warranty issues before 20,000 miles. Bill Ford said that it takes a long time to win back a customer, and it will. I have a 2002 Mercury Sable that I bought used that has had a couple of small, to my mind, issues, but I love the ride and handling and safety it provides, and as it is my third Taurus/Sable and I loved the other two, it doesn't bother me. I had a Nissan truck that I used to have to pay extra to have the oil changed because the filter was nearly impossible to get to. I had a Toyota Corolla that went through a couple of alternators and CV/axle assemblys at 60,000 miles, another Toyota Corolla that had the shifter bend the shift dogs into reverse-only under warranty. My brother and I used to joke about his 2000 VW Beetle and my 2000 Ford Focus due to the many recalls and repairs for both. I once worked as a contractor in a GM/Delphi plant, knew some conscientious folks and even more lazy sons of bitches, at least a couple of $40,000 a year janitors, a few workers who would only work 4 hour days. That plant is now almost completely shut down now. As a mechanic, I've dealt with Japanese quality metal, such as Subaru axle hubs that would strip due to lack of strength and Toyota valve cover fasteners made of pot metal, and more Japanese rusted bodies than I can name, wonderful engines and transmissions coming at you like a cyborg only with the body completly rusted away. Cars are cars. They're all good, they're all spawns of Satan. I prefer to keep the dollars at home. However, I won't have my loved ones shop at a Ford dealer or a Dodge dealer (transmissions and 2.7 litre V6s) without a trip to the Honda, Toyota, Mazda folks. Shop them all. Be prepared to get bitten, and pray you end up amazed.

terry

May 15, 2007 4:37 PM

GM can't build the same quality as Toyota but they
think they can charge the same price. I would buy the inferior American made cars if they were substantially cheaper in price. That will never happen because the greedy labor unions are sucking the life out of American auto makers.

STAN

May 16, 2007 6:52 PM

If there was an American car that was reliable, I would totally buy it over a Honda or Toyota. Even if the American car was ugly and reliable, I would still but it over a fancy looking Honda or Toyota. However, the word "Reliable American Car" is a oxymoron. It doesn't exit. Even after GM spent 1 billion dollars to make Saturn, it's still not reliable. The question is.... Is Detroit that stupid where they can't make reliable cars, or are they that greedy where they make them unreliable so they can make money from repairs?

Woodie

May 31, 2007 2:11 PM

Honestly. If American car companies have not figured out their problems in 30 years, they never will. My daughter just put to rest a 1998 Ford Contour with 68,000 miles on it for a failed unrepairable transmission, a bad engine gasket, all the emission equipment failed, and as if that were not bad enough, the entire interior dome light assemble fell out of the ceiling and was dangling in the car totally disfunctional. Before that I had a Chevrolet that had similar problems with the added bonus that the air condition NEVER worked 6 months off the assembly line till I buried it at 80,000 miles after 6 years on a blown engine manifold while only 2 of 4 door handles were still functioned. I'm currently logging 125,000 miles on my flawless 10 year old Honda Accord, with it's worst problem being the tackometer broke. The last reliable American car I owned was a 1968 Chevy Malibu which actually made it to 112,000 miles in 9 1/2 years before it belched smoke and burned a quart a week. American Car companies should do America a favor and shut their doors. They are an embarrassment to us.

Honestly

June 12, 2007 12:05 AM

Good thing we won that war with Japan,otherwise they'd have to buy all their stuff from us.I think it's funny that the people saying"buy american" do their shopping at wal-mart.The problems in american goods falls to all people.From the engineer in the office looking to save some money with foreign steel. To the worker on the line who comes in with the "I don't give a rats ass additude."American workers are in for a rude awaking. Everybody wants the big bucks but doesn't want to work for it. I work in a tool and die shop and have seen an ever increasing amount of dies,that used to be sent to American factories, getting sent to South America.Remember the great depression? People worked for $3.00 a week and were happy to get that.Everybody wants to bitch about their job but,when they're all gone,then what? Buy American? I say take pride in your American jobs then buy american.

SlimDan22

June 17, 2007 3:49 PM

I totally agree with the guy above me

I live in Michigan and have many family members that work with the car industry

and sadly most of them are lazy

i think the problem with america in general is peoples work ethic

im not saying all americans dont work hard but a majority dont care and only do what is neccessary to get paid and not take pride in their work

im probally going to continue to buy american cars to support our states economy even though there money pits but without the auto industry in michigan...everyone hurts in michigan

not just plants but companies that make parts and everything related to cars in michigan is suffering now and will probbally suffer more if they dont get their act together

but again its the american workers who rather get paid and not work for it

compare the U.S. in the 1940's
everyone took pride in their work and ford, chrysler and gm where the kings of the auto industry

my dad feels bad for my generation

because we are the ones who are going to suffer and fix everything

Dan
17
Warren, Michigan

Darin

June 19, 2007 3:30 PM

Despite some ill informed comments buying American is important. As far as what makes are more American please refer to levelfieldinstiture.org and you will find that all of the Big 3 contain on average a much higher level of U.S. made content than the import brands. Chrysler provides 42 jobs per thousand vehicles sold while Hyundai provides 5. For those foreign car/economic traitors that try to defend their decision with the quality argument, let me share one. I bought a Toyota truck that in the first 60,000 miles had to have two visits to the shop for transmission issues that cost around $800.00 each. Bulletproof? Maybe not.

Mark G

June 28, 2007 2:46 AM

After reading these posts it never ceases to amaze me just how ignorant an uninformed people are when it comes to bashing union workers and american autos. Let's take union wages. I will never complain if someone makes more money than me in my community. My union wages afford me to buy a larger house, pay higher taxes to support better schools, fire and police dept's, employ 4.2 service worker for every union worker, and pay higher federal taxes. You don't ever hear the non-union worker complain they are paying less tax money due to their lower wages yet their families can share the same benefits as mine. You don't hear union workers bashing non-union workers for this reason. No, the non-union workers just drive their foreign, non-union made vehiches to the same school I just paid all my property taxes to support. Now when they close the local GM plant and they don't get my tax money anymore since I'll have to move, they'll blame it on the union workers at GM when they loose their job and not the fact they bought a foreign car. Idiots. And what about the people that make more money than union workers. Are they greedier than union workers? I never hear complaints about them. Nike builds shoes overseas with slave labor yet still sells them in this country for outreageous prices and no one bashes the owner of Nike. Is it so bad that a worker could share the wealth of a company? Maybe we should all work for min. wage and let the companies own everything. Sounds like Mexico and all the other third world countries. When you bash, maybe you should post who you work for or own so we can bash and boycott your company and put you out of business and complain that you make too much and offer shoddy products or services. You should engage your mind before you engage your mouth cause you sound foolish and uneducated.

Chas Palmer

July 4, 2007 11:16 PM

I owned a 1988 caddy deville, lasted to 88k (had 68k when i bought it) and blew a head gasket. Always hated that stupid car. I put around 2k into it, even with doing the labor myself. The A/C Pump went, and destroyed parts of the engine with it (long story), and it always had a ping at around 1500 miles after an oil change. In addition, the Parking Brake Stuck on one time and I had to get it towed. A New brake release solenoid fixed that And don't even get me started on the side-connect battery cables. I junked it when the head gasket went.
88k-68k- 20k 2,000/$20,000= 10 cents/mile

I own a 1982 toyota pickup. 337,843 miles (312,000 when i bought it, still going strong. Total money invested= $23.98
337-312= 25k 23.98/25,000= $0.000952/ mile

You think what you think, but after owning that GM, I will never own an "american" (I may never have to replace my toyota).

Todd T.

August 16, 2007 9:26 PM

This thread seems to represent the views of two distinclty different types of posters. First are those that hold a grudge against our domestic auto industry and wish it a quick death, for whatever reason, regardless of the consequences. Second are people who seem to have a clear understandig of global economics and the implications associated with sending large amounts of captial to foreign economies.

I get angry just like anyone else when I have unexpected repair costs for my vehicle. However, after owning and maintaining 26 vehicles, I still find it more expensive (long term) to send my money to Japan than to buy replacement parts for my American cars. A failed American auto industry will have horrible consequences for all Americans, even those think their job has nothing to do with the US auto industry.

American cars are not cars that are made in America. American cars are cars produced by companies that are headquartered and invested in America. Toyota, Honda and Nissan don't make this list. This issue is about ownership and the economic control and cultural influence that follows. Consider this, most Japanese don't rank poor quality as a reason for not buying an American car. Rather, the reason they give for not buying an American car is that it is not Japanese. Americans had this nationalist spirit during WWII and the era that followed. During this time our econony flurished and poeple were happy.

I want to live here, raise my kids here, laugh here and someday, die here. I also want my country to have economic control over it's own destiny. For me, this means buying cars (and all other products) from companies rooted where my bread is buttered- right here in America.

Mary Swisher

September 6, 2007 2:11 PM

I have an old 1990 Lincoln and it works like a charm. Just have it serviced and keep on driving. 150,000 miles to date. So yes, I would buy another one, but here is the scary part----we import all our computors, coffee pots, toasters, etc. from China and that makes no sense at all. They don't last long enough to take them out of the box and plug them in, and some don't work at all. Something has to be done about this.

Dale McD

September 6, 2007 8:14 PM

In 2004, I bought a 2002 Mercury Sable with 19,000 miles. It now has 114,000. It is on its 5th fuel pump. Ford only paid for the first and I got the Blue oval coverage on #2, which cost me $75.00.

At #3 pump , they refused to cover because it had over 75,000 miles. As this started, I owned 4 Ford vehicles. I am replacing the fuel pump one last time and will be selling my last Ford vehicle this summer with no intentions of ever buying another Ford due to the fact they will not stand behind their design mistakes.
I also own a Ford Windstar with the soon to be infamous Master Cylinder switch issue which has caused fires in hundreds of Ford vehicles. Ford has no plans of recalling this switch on my vehicle. I have asked Ford several times rethink their customer service and they have been unpleasant to deal with.
I may buy a traditional American car again but it definitely won't be Ford

Ken Watkins

September 11, 2007 6:30 PM

It amazes me how many Americans talk about American cars being inferior with such joy. Its as if they are not Americans but from some other country that enjoys putting down Americans and the cars that this country makes. If I was to listen to these people about how inferior we are at making just about everything I wouldnt buy American either. There is one small point these people forget is that American companies create jobs here in even greater numbers that foreign companies. The main jobs foreign automakers produce dont make up for the jobs they have destroyed with domestic companies. I still cant figure out where these people think they are going to work when domestic production in all industries is destroyed.Apparently they are hoping for occupation so they can work for one of those perfect and wonderful Japanese companies.Im an American and I support MY country through thick and thin including buying so called inferior American products.

BOBBY19348

September 14, 2007 3:31 PM

Well if GM is so bad howecome I have a 26 year old Gm truck that runs fine and I haven't had any problems with it. You live in america so that means you should buy american cars and support the US.

JOBY

September 14, 2007 3:42 PM

You live in America so BUY AMERICAN CARS!!!!!!!!!! dont gve me that junk about buying foreign cars. Support the contry you live in

eric

September 25, 2007 10:47 AM

Miss my 1996 Beretta Z-26- a couple of minor things- wore out 3 sets of Goodyear tires but took the 3100 series V-6 with 4 speed auto over 167,000 before the car met with an untimely demise- Broadsided in an intersection but the unibody construction and safety itmes performed flawlessly- us 45-50 mph with a right front impact against a 4 dr mitsubishi traveling into us at approx 35-40 mph. crossed 2 turn lanes and 3 travel lanes- walked away with a broken finger tip and the usual bruises and cuts from seatbelt etc.
replaced it with a 2002 blazer ls- disappointed- transmission leak, power window motor failure, door lock failure, rear hatch lock failure, ecm for 2wd-4wd-awd failed, intake gaskets leaked, d/s seal failure, idler arm failure, water leak from door seal,-

my new 2005 colorado- pretty good- a noisy blower motor and a battery but trying to find out about suspension issues- normal hwy driving has just about worn out LF tire- should not constant alignments even with rotations approx 7,000 miles-
think our new rides might be Nissan or Toyota- after owning 7 GM based vehicles since I started driving in 1991.

John

October 3, 2007 6:24 PM

Is it true that GM is not allowed to build cars in Japan?

Lou

October 6, 2007 4:12 PM

It's ironic that people say that if you live in America, you should buy American. That statement is purely Un-American. America is a capitalist country, and in a capitalist country we have choice, and the choice that most people have been making in the past 30 years is to buy foreign. All these people taking about how great their American cars are/were all seem like they're in their 50s. There is a whole generation of kids out there who wouldn't even think of buying an American car and they are not just on the coast. Everytime I go down South on business, every youngster is in a Honda or Toyota.

Rick King

October 12, 2007 10:32 AM

Sad that more people are more interested in their favorite sports team than keeping up with the automobile industry. Yet, a vehicle is a necessity and our second highest expense.

Are the folks who build the cars and paid 75.00 per hr. paid too much? Are the executives paid too much? In my eyes yes to both questions. I sell the vehicles. I've sold more vehicles at my dealership than anyone else. I am scheduled to work 45 hr. each week, I often work more. I work every Saturday. At best I'll earn 35K. Thats 14.95 per hr. I love my job I make the process of buying a vehicle fun.

Before cars everyone had a horse. Once, our countries economy centered around the auto industry. Today fewer and few households depend on this industry.

We're shifting gears. Other countries are providing labor for less. So, it's even more important that we educate ourselves even more today. Than cry, or worry, about who is screwing who.

Irvin

October 18, 2007 7:59 AM

I am a foreigner married to an American. I drive a Chevy Malibu whereas my wife drives a Mitsubishi Gallant. And we both bought our cars way before we had met each other. Go figure!

Buying American does not make one any more American than pinning the flag on your coat lapel. The flag was likely made in China anyway. Just my two cents.

Brian Sharp

November 10, 2007 1:34 AM

What most of you are forgetting is the trickle down effect. Yor local ,state and Federal Government depend on tax money to run. The more money you make, the more money you provide in income tax. If you put a 100,000 union auto workers out of work then everyone suffers. Do you think America can survive on 7.00 dollar an hour jobs? NO! Not when gas prices are 3.25 a gal. Cost of living is going up and wages are going down. Do you think the autoworkers in Mexico can afford a new car? NO! they only make 2.70 an hour. The housing in my area sucks. Homes aren't selling and forclosures are at an all time high. Manufacturers are closing the doors and moving to foreign countries that will never be able to afford the products they make. If labor cost is such a huge factor in product costs then how come the prices keep going up on everything? Check out how much it costs for advertising sometime. Please consider the fact when buying any product that the job you cost could be your own. If we are all out of work who will be buying anything. I'm not saying don't buy anything foreign, But please try and buy Ameican whenever you can. The job you save might just be you own or someone you know.

Mike

December 4, 2007 12:17 AM

There's a reason why "Japanese" cars have large lists of recalls in comparison to the "American" cars. It's because when they make a mistake in quality, they aknowledge it and fix it at THEIR expense.

Take GM for example. How many people with a 3.8 liter V6 GM engine have had to have an Intake Manifold and/or Intake manifold gasket replaced because WATER WAS LEAKING INTO THE CYLINDERS? Why did they not recall this? Furthermore, why did they keep using this design after they knew in 1997 that it was a problem!?

Why didn't FORD recall the Firestone tires it used in the Explorer until the US DOT got involved?! They are cheap, and unwilling to do what it takes to make the customer happy. Failing to FIX problems that come up with their vehicles for free due to the failure to engineer them properly leaves a bad taste in the customers mouth.

THIS IS WHY THE BIG 3 ARE FAILING!!!

No engineers with complete certainty are able to design something as complex as an automobile and not have problems crop up over the course of time as a result of something that could not be tested in the lab. How well some parts hold up often are going to come up in time. When these crop up, recalls are necessary. It is terrible business practice to instead, as the big 3 do, cover up the engineering mistakes instead of owning up to them and fixing them asap.

Noz

December 4, 2007 9:12 PM

Gots to say to 'Bob', the very finest American flags are Made in Taiwan. The Ladies Garment Workers Union folded under its own tattered weight many years back.

Lotsa comments here, some are just plain butt-stupid. Anyone putting GM on some kind of pedestal deserves to be reamed with it. Ford as well. Chrysler is no longer worthy of mention.

That there is a whole world out there is a huge surprise to many writers suffering from the lack of education America prides itself in these days. All part of the plan of the so-called Progressive Party, the damned Crats.

LM

December 7, 2007 9:12 PM

In 1985-ish my mom bought an "American" Buick Skyhawk imagine her shock when she found out the motor was from Brazil.

I have family that worked for the Big 3 and are drawing pensions now- I resent people saying that they don't deserve what they were promised. Working for 16 hour days for 40 years for one company seems like it ought to entitle retirees to the pension that they earned. I know that current employees certianly don't get the same pension benefits when they retire.
Why should former employees that worked their butts off back in the 50's, 60's and 70's get screwed because the Big 3 decided to replace steel with fiberglass and aluminum and shoddy workmanship?

Before you go off on retiree's who made the "American cars" of years past (like my dad's c. 1960 truck that has over 400,000 miles on the original engine) Realize they can't control the business practices of these companies now. Just think how screwed you would be come 10 years into retirement the company you loyally worked for decided that they were going to take back all their contributions to your 401K.

That being said my 1995 Ford Escort was a trooper and died with 250,000 miles on it while my 2002 Ford Focus died with 96,000 miles on it. Clearly there has been a backslide when it comes to quality and craftsmanship.

patriot

December 8, 2007 9:55 AM

GM,Ford,and Chrysler need to be put in front of the japs. The only reason people buy foreign cars is because people are jealous of how much the autoworkers make. They deserve mre money because they go through a lot of hard work making them. You're american so support your country and "BUY AMERICAN"

Jason Haruko

December 27, 2007 5:35 PM

My friend used to have a buick from. It constantly kept on malfunctioning during the 8 years (1995-2003) he owned it. This friend of mine decided to get rid of the buick and get a honda instead. The honda didn't malfunction even once! He has almost owned this vehicle for 10 years. The reason why American car companies are in trouble is: THEY CAN'T MAKE DECENT CARS. American cars use more oil than Japanese cars. When the oil price gets to an ultimate high, no one would be stupid enough to buy an American car... Unless American Car companies actually try to make decent cars to improve their reputation. But I doubt that would happen. I believe even the stupid Koreans could produce better cars than you retarded Americans! I also believe after 20 years have passed, Japanese motors will have dominated well over 60% of the automobile market in the US.

Camaro

January 31, 2008 11:52 PM

I have to jump in and add my experience with GM (Chevy). I bought a 1998 Camaro Z28. I have had very very few problems with it. The only major problem I had was a waterpump failure, which I changed myself. note: it is the easiest engine to work on than most others, in my opinion. I am very satisfied. Car has 120,000 miles, and never tuned up, but still runs well. I don't agree that the mechanics of foreign cars are better than American cars. I will agree that American car companies do not offer as advanced an offering such as BMWs and Infinitis, etc... but then again, I prefer a simpler auto, which is easier to work on, with less fancy options to break down. I will also agree that GM cars are mostly ugly and have a poor form/fit compared to foreign cars. So, the takeaway for anyone from GM reading this is to focus more resources on making cars better looking and not so cheap looking.

I think that opinions on American cars are divided depending on whether or not the owner services/works on their own car, or if the owner simply is not mechanically inclined at all.

Buy American

February 23, 2008 9:35 AM

how come asians don't buy American cars? Is it because their racist or they're just stupid. jason Haruko is stupid because he is lying because he is a damn loyalist to stupid japan. And besides, look what they did to us in world war 2. they tortured us and treated us badly and now you support them!!!!!! i guess you like supporting a country that tortured your own. I guess you hate America. You should be arrested for treason.

gallie

March 5, 2008 1:31 AM

Dear "buy american." Asia is a big place. When you say "asians don't buy american cars," you're wrong. General Motors sells more cars in China (a country located asia) than anyone else. Probably due to a rivalry between China and Japan.

The Toyota Camry is an AMERICAN built car. It is built in Georgetown Ky(i should know, i work there in the steel division). A Chevy Impala is assembled in CANADA.

Another little tid-bit... Some of the steel Toyota REJECTS, is sold to both GM and Ford.

Janie

May 7, 2008 2:01 PM

My husband and I have owned Buicks for years. We usually buy used 7-8 year old cars and drive them for years with only having to replace brakes. I will always buy Buick. My favorite is the Lesabre. My only complaint is why are cars being made with fiberglass? It makes them look "cheap" and has a lot less protection if we are involved in a wreck. Buicks are great cars and made in America!!!

Gloria

June 3, 2008 5:43 PM

My husband and I have worked for GM for 30+ years each. We have always supported the company and their products.
Yes, I guess my husband is one of the" spoiled " (according to some of your comments) retirees.
He was on the assembly line every day in sometimes overbearing temps in the summer, building front-wheel drive transmissions.
He is proud of the years he put in. He earned his pension! Many of you complaining of the union and benefits could not have done his job for so long...
By the way, I drive an 2002 Olds Alero with over 150,000 miles and climb mountain roads back and forth 3-4 times a week. Can't complain. Gas mileage is great. I only paid $17000 for this car brand new. Best money I ever spent! Anything mechanical will break down at one time or another, whether made here or overseas. I have heard good and bad stories of all makes of vehicles.
I have nothing against foreign cars, but don't bash America and American-made, you're hurting a great country and the people that made it so, our fathers and their fathers...
Hopefully with the world facing environmental issues getting worse every year, companies like Toyota and GM will join together to make products to save our earth!

Todd

July 10, 2008 12:28 PM

Hey All,

Just to clear the murky waters, for all of you who think your single bad experience should represent the entire population of Detroit products, here is an excerpt from the 2007 JD Power study regarding the most dependable manufacturers. Notice anything? 3 of the top 5 are made by either GM or Ford! Find a new argument.

Most Dependable Manufacturers
Performance by make is based on problems per 100 vehicles for all models; a lower score is better. The industry average is 216. Click on a manufacturer name to read the latest Cars.com make report.
Nameplate Score
Buick 145
Lexus 145
Cadillac 162
Mercury 168
Honda 169

At the end of the day, ask yourself: who would you rather support? Where will Toyota/Honda/Nissan/Kia be if or when we need them the most? Have you looked at 9/11 and Katrina donations? Would they be building our tanks as the Detroit automakers did during WWII? Most likely not. In fact, during WWII Japan was busy building their own bombers to kill thousands of Americans!

Todd Williams

August 4, 2008 3:37 PM

Just to make sure the Toyota lovers out there get their fill of "quality", I at one time owned a 1986 Toyota Van. That was the name of the vehicle...."Van".

At 50,000 miles, the cylinder head cracked. Had to have it repaired. Every 30,000 miles it needed the altenator replaced. At 70,000 miles the power steering pump leaked.

At 80,000 miles the coolant line to the rear heater of the van corroded through and left me stranded. At 100,000 miles the idler pulley bearing failed.

As far as I'm concerned, I've driven them and they're no better.

I currently own a Buick and a Ford and I feel damn good doing it. There is no way I'm buying a Jap car again, because some things require "principle".

As for one other point, every minority in the state I live in seems to support their mother country or world region. Most Asians, Most Middle Easterns ALL DRIVE JAP Cars.

It's only us stupid Americans that like to screw the country we live in.

Watch the History channel every now and then and you'll realize how WWII was won. America's manufacturing might won that war.

It is scary today if it happened again.

ATL

August 5, 2008 9:37 PM

I'd say the quality between domestic and foreign is about the same for vehicles less than 7-8 years old. Before then, I'm sorry to say but the Japanese cars usually had the upper hand as far as reliability goes. I will also say that the only cars I would buy from the Japanese auto makers would be in the Civic/Corolla/Sentra class mainly because I don't see how buying a Accord/Camry type of car makes sense. I can get a Taurus or a Cobalt for much less than what Japan has to offer in that vehicle class.

Also, for those of you coming here and preaching politics, you're appealing to emotion here. Some people here may be afraid of coming across as politically incorrect, but I don't. No one cares what you did 70 years ago. I'm sorry to say, but that's the real world. I will still consider GM for cars (won't write off the domestics now), but preaching cheap patriotism is just plain BS. If you fought for freedom, BACK IT UP. To take away someone's freedom simply because you fought in some war makes no sense to me.

Mike Barlar

August 16, 2008 9:51 PM

I have an independant auyomotive repair shop. Most plastic upper intakes that G.M. made can be purchased for about 100.00 plus sales tax,depending on which one you have. The dealerships charge 80.00-100.00 an hour plus 20 percent markup on parts. Thats the reason repairs will cost 500.00 & up.

Roland

September 18, 2008 10:39 PM

Buy American ! Not just cars but everything American. Watch how fast we will prosper again. Who the hell needs a shower curtain from the other side of the planet. Not to mention that we're being poisoned too. I for one sure miss our BIG cars that the whole world envied. I remember seeing tourists lick their chops at our big cars of the 60's and 70's here in NYC streets. Lets put America back to work! We're the best of the best. Let all these traitors go back to they're stinking countries. They're all here to destroy us and it's been working well. Consumers guide the market place. Send these sell out politicians to hell too. Let those imports sit on the shelves. Buy only USA ! Bring back our industries, televisions, radio, garments, etc, etc, etc. I tell you we were the envy of the world and we can do it again. It's not Nippon or China that invented the automobile or anything else for that matter. America take back your country before it's to late. If it isn't already.

bill cosworth

November 10, 2008 2:39 PM

This Article was done for Honda and Toyota PR.

Honda and Toyota are not American.

Also its a bunch of BS because people complain about old 300k American cards breaking but they use the same parts "according to the Honda president"

So Honda president if you are using the same American parts your vehicles when they hit 300k will break too.

I am an engineer and I know for a fact everying is built very well today.

Foreign car buyers cover up repairs or spend 3k at a dealer but don’t complain.

IF you have an American car you complain if a light bulb burns out.

Wake up American stop being stupid. Buy American.

Buying a Honda or Toyota is not American. Your money and profits jobs and future are going overseas.

IF you don’t want your kids being trash truck drivers then buy American. If you want your kids working at fast food joints then buy foreign.

Wake up stop being stupid again.

Philip Tursi

November 20, 2008 9:49 PM

As this is my second post here in the past two years. What a change in this industry. Thats what it appears on the surface but this condition of GM has been festering for many, many years. GM has been totally inept of producing anything with efficiency. Rick Wagner and his board need to be whacked plain and simple. 2-3 years ago GM started selling off divisions that were profitable. Why the hell did Rick Wagner sell off EMD & most of their stake in GMAC. GM's other divisions were barely in the black then they sell off there best performers. Saturn division has'nt turned a profit since inception, they scrap the S-series which were decent sellers & above average quality. Instead the try to merge Saturn & Opel. Screw Opel no one needs them. All this BS about millions of workers being out of work if GM folds is plain horseshit. Back in the 80's GM single handedly whacked thousands upon thousands of US workers by migrating divisions to Canada & Mexico. What did our government do about it? Nothing but give it thier blessing by enacting NAFTA & they get the seal of approval for decemating our US workforce in ALL industries. Thank you President Clinton for signing such a well crafted bill to let US companies run for the border. Now our government wants to hand out money to these poorly run companies to a problem they had a hand in creating. Anyone remember AMC? They disappeared with not much more than a whimper. The only good division of that company was Jeep which survived & probably will survive when Chrylsler folds soon. My personal feeling is that GM should just file chapter 7 and liquidate. But that won't happen if GM survives they will be 1/10th the size they are today. Chrylsler will totally vaporize, maybe Ford will pick up Jeep at a great bargain. Ford will be less than have its current size. Now Obama the prophet sold himself to the voters saying that he has all the answers. I live in Illinois and have yet to hear ANYTHING he has done to improve this sespool of a state. God help us, this man don't know what the hell he is doing & will only lead our economy into the great abyss. But hey, its not so bad we'll still have great cars made in this country from Honda, Toyota & Hyundai. I don't hear them whining to congress. This is only the opinion of one non educated Auto Technician. Oh a word of advice to Roger Wagner...get a real comfortable pair of shoes before you go wait in that very long line at the unemployment office.

Sam Adams

December 20, 2008 4:48 PM

The last American made car I owned was a 1963 Chev that I bought as a university student (second hand in 1969). I got rid of it in 1974 when it had about 150,000 miles on it. Good car, if a little boring but practical transportation for a broke student.

I replaced it with a Datsun (remember when Nissan used that name plate?) and have never looked back. I haven't owned a North American built car, let alone something built by the Big 3, since. [If you take the trouble to talk to the mechanics at the local dealership they can usually tell you which models and/or trim packages are only made in Europe or Japan and they'll generally tell you that you should be buying those models as opposed to the "semi-American" stuff that the Japanese and Europeans build on this side of the pond. I've taken their advice.]

My current car is a 9 year old Japanese Toyota and, other than replacing tires, the only maintenance I've ever had to do was to replace a battery.

Sherry

December 22, 2008 3:54 AM

GMC should change its name to Garbage Motor Corporation beacuse I own a 2001 Sonoma Truck that needs constant repair. After only two years the AC went out and now I cant belive I need another heater core. This is the 3rd one that failed. I am not going to spend another $800 to change it. Now the starte motor is making a horrible scraping noise when I start it. My fear is that the fly wheel is stripped. I will never own another American made car or truck

lourentius

January 2, 2009 11:11 AM

new silverado 2009

tom

February 2, 2009 3:49 PM

I live in europe for the past 10 years believe me there are more fords and opels on the streets then any other make only VW is ahead american companies must be doing something right.I own a 2004 mercedes E200 cant sell it to many problems everybody knows this car sucks I also own a cadillac srx 2004 no problems love the car its reliable

Matt Cotton

February 3, 2009 10:13 AM

The only American cars I've ever had good luck with were a 1963 Corvair, 1973 Dart and 1996 Wrangler. Other than that, I've always had French cars and enjoyed the heck out of them (hold your laughter, I'm immune to it). Both the US and France make perfectly good cars that would sell like hotcakes with one small change... slap a Toyota badge on them!

Everett Rupert

February 5, 2009 6:17 PM

The foreign carsz thatre built here and advertised as having American content leave out one important fact; the monies earned by their sales are shipped back to their mother countries, not the U.S. Besides, a "But American" campaign might make us look careully at our own legacy car car makers and find them fully competitive with Honda, Toyota, et al. For those who claim to shop for any car, or whichever is the est one,co0nsider that as you reject American cars out of hand, your friends and neighbors are losing jobs without being given a fair chance.

Books by Everett Rupert, available at PuiblishAmerica.com and websites and bookstores worldwide: "That Day I Found Out" and "The Heat From Living."

Jon

March 25, 2009 3:06 PM

Fun to see the ignorant rednecks come out. Here's the way I feel about American cars: If you had a fifty year old son who lived in the basement and didn't do anything all day long but drink beer and play video games, who didn't contribute anything to the family, would you give him a weekly allowance so he could continue to do the same shit he's been doing for years? American cars suck. You're ignorant if you don't realize that. The American car industry is the 50 year old kid in the basement. Don't enable him. Spare your flag waving for all the ignorant douche bags who watch Fox News. You all are an embarrassment to our nation.

chris

March 30, 2009 11:40 AM

to the guy that said mazda was a "jap" car. are you kiding me do a little reserch befor you speek ford owns mazda. its not "some jap company."

From Kiley: Not creazy about the description in any case. But Ford owns 19% of Mazda these days. Mazda is technically a Japanese company as it is based in Japan.

John

April 1, 2009 2:55 PM

UAW. what a joke. They cannot even construct a reliable product, they are over paid and now these drain on the real working man wants our tax dollars to fund their pension. Who do they think they are?? The union has ruined the US auto market. Over paid and under skilled, their greed has brought us to where we are. I say let them go bankrupt and see what it is like to really work for living.

JJ

April 1, 2009 3:20 PM

I don't care where the car comes from... I just don't want my tax dollars paying for some union idiots pension. Go out and work at a real job and see if the US gov will bail you out. If they had not been so f*&%ing greedy year in and year out, maybe we would not be in the postion we are in. If they had cared more about the consumer instead of their wallets. Unions suck. I blame them for the shit that comes out since weather they do their job right or wrong, they can't be touched.

adam rs

May 6, 2009 3:53 PM

o.k. alot of you have good points of view alot of anger alot of hostility twards each other thats great thats so american.so my girl HAD a 2004 honda civic.nice car good on gas for a four cylinder but then four years later it needed a new timing belt,clutch,and alot of other crap and thats kosher and all but im the guy who will refuse to go to a blood thirsty mechanic and to do any work on that machine was nightmare.i mean i changed the head light bulb and it was like building the frigan piramids.well needless to say she got rid of that.and so i had to get my car registered and insured and that IS a 97 camaro rs with 224,000 miles on it and that car is as tight as a car can get and it is very easy to work on and parts are cheap.now listen im not saying chevy is better than honda im just saying if you drive like an assclown at driving it dont matter what kind of car you have your car will suck in the end and as for all who speak of car companies going under i feel that noone should feel bad they all make out way better than most of us they charge way to much for bad quality in buying and repairing and if alot of americans lose their job then someone should hire them to fix these god aweful roads that all cars drive on.and if you think your car sucks go without a car for a month or two and i bet youll want that car you couldnt wait to get rid of back in your life.

Dave

May 25, 2009 5:05 PM

First off I will say that, NO Toyota is most certainly not an American company.

Allow me to explain the concept here, when any one of the big three build and sell a car in this country the money from that sale stays in this country.

When you wonderful Toyota and Honda sell a car the money goes back to Japan, and it helps their country, not ours.

And to the idiot above who says that American car have a higher break rate, I have also been in the industry for over 20 years.

I don't find that to be true, allow me to expound, when was the last time you heard of somebody buying a GM, Ford, or Dodge truck, only to have the frame rust in half a few years later.

Toyota did it, and what's more they didn't want to back it up, sounds great huh, Toyota is such a great company, so much better then an American truck or car.

Study deeper, look harder, and learn a little something about what your talking about, American car are built better.

Zippy

June 1, 2009 7:13 AM

I just wanted to say I have been in the auto repair business for 20 plus years, always as a dealership technician. I have worked for a Chevrolet store, Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep, Volkswagen, and currently a Mazda/Kia store. Buy far the worst vehicles in this group are Volkswagens for mechanical failures, and second place goes to Mazda. The amount of Mazda recalls is just mind numbing, bad engines on the RX8, blown turbo chargers on the CX7, 4 or 5 recalls on both the new 2010 Mazda 3 and Mazda 6 before they ever left the dealership. And the Mazda with the least problems, the CX9 (that is a rebadged FORD Flex). I think this all comes down to perception, I have had both import and domestic cars, and I can say I have honestly had less problems with the domestics that the imports, and even thought I do the repairs myself, the last thing I want to due on the weekends after working on your broken Mazda is the have to repair my vehicle, so what do I drive you ask? A CHEVROLET.

fed up with "buy american"

June 1, 2009 7:07 PM

there is no such thing as an american made car.they are made in canada,mexico,korea,china. which ever country can build them the cheapest,and then ship them back to the U.S.and mark them up 500% and expect the unemployed auto worker to buy them .And the ones that are assembled in the U.S.all the parts are made in canada,mexico,korea,china.

Barbara

June 10, 2009 3:27 PM

My husband and I have driven Dodges for over 34 years and only had one problem. We had a little Dodge D50 pick-up that died in the middle of the st. while going to the dealership. The dealership really sucked because they promised to have the vehicle fixed before noon the next day. We gave them a extra 2hrs and they had not touched so I through a fit with the dealer himself. I think the problem with American made vehicles are the ones who want the big bucks but not the quality work that is suppose to go with it, and the union officials and CEO's that make deals instead of getting rid of the sorry workers. I am now retired for 3yrs and couldn't be happier. When I retired I was 56 and could have worked longer but got tired of going to work and hear the same cry babies needing help who were younger than. I was brought up with good work ethic's, if you take care of your job your job will take care of you. Everyone has to start somewhere, but don't just have your hand out for your pay, do the job and earn your pay. I said that to say this union and management never found a happy medium. Well now they can sit and watch while their job's go to other countries. The ones that were at all the union meetings wanting more money and less work can thank themselves now. This is one of the reasons why we don't have the good products in our country. Monday the auto workers are too tired to move to fast and Fridays their in a hurry to get to the weekend to start this all over again. This means a bad product and if they wanted that good paying job they would have taken care of the job. Now sit on the pier with your fishing pole and watch your jobs go overseas while your trying to catch some fish to feed your family.

ToyotaFan

July 3, 2009 11:58 AM

I'm glad to see SO MANY people "getting it", but I'm shocked that no one has mentioned the number one reason to refuse to buy American cars--planned obsolescence.

Planned obsolescence is defined by encarta.msn.com as:

ensuring that something becomes obsolete: a policy of designing and making products that quickly become outdated or wear out, so that they must be replaced

Not only are the "Big 3" installing parts that they know are faulty, THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNING THEM TO BREAK!

Example: my boyfriend had a late 90's model Chevy pickup, full size. The transmission needed complete replacement at 120,000 miles. The mechanic said that all those kinds of trucks need new transmissions at 120,000 miles. That certainly doesn't happen by accident.

On the flip side, we've had an '86 Toyota pickup that had 297,000 miles on it that was sold for $1000 in 2001 and never needed ANY transmission work (I didn't even do appropriate maintenance).

We had a 2004 Toyota Corolla with over 400,000 miles on it and never had any transmission (or engine) trouble. The only reason we don't still have it is someone rear ended it, pushed it into a car in front, and totalled the car. And the passenger area of the car held up well, too.

We had a late 90's model Corolla with 300,000 miles, only basic repairs like alternator, battery, tires. It got rear-ended and totalled, too.

I currently have a '95 Nissan pickup with 275,000 miles, replaced alternator, starter, water pump, battery, tires, brakes, did tune-ups, & oil changes. I did have to replace the fuel pump at $400 which I didn't think was good. But no transmission problems and never even replaced timing belt/chain.

Also, I (a woman) have learned to do most of my own maintenance, troubleshooting, and repairs on my vehicles. On Toyotas, my old Nissan (they've gone down in quality these days), and probably Hondas & Subarus, getting to the basic parts is very easy, as it should be. What's up with the above comment that an American car's engine had to be dropped just to change the spark plugs?!

I try to buy American when possible because Chinese products can't be trusted and the environmental impact of shipping so much stuff to the U.S. is terrible. But I will never reward unethical companies with my money, especially when there are such clear, superior alternatives.

In conclusion, if you buy any car NOT made by Toyota [Lexus, Scion] or Honda [Acura] I hope you have a large savings account for tow trucks and repair shops. Even if you can do it yourself, the parts will be expensive.

Side note: I have heard some impressive things about Subarus, at least old ones, and I haven't heard bad things about them, so they might deserve to be in the superior-quality category, too. I just don't know as much about them.

sick of Toyota traitors

July 26, 2009 9:43 AM

Why does this crap show up on a Business Week board?

If I wanted lies, I would just go to the Democrat and Republican boards.

Jim

July 30, 2009 10:39 AM

I decide to by American. I bought a Toyota. Car built in California and drivetrain in Kentucky. Friend bought a 2010 Chevy Equinox saying "I bought American what about you?" I said look at your sticker buddy. Car made in CANADA. Engine made in CHINA?!?! Transmission made in MEXICO. Yeah way to go on buying American. If you buy GM you don't buy American

ps

July 30, 2009 5:12 PM

Jim- Dead on. Don't forget the Mexican Fusion. and by the way, Accord, 70+% American content, more than a ford F150.

Sick of Toyota Traitors- You're an idiot. The big 3 mislead the public with vehicles like the Equinox. And that's no lie.

Shrek T

September 7, 2009 1:34 PM

There is one American car that is the most reliable, comfortable, and unkillable thing on the road. The Crown Victoria Police Interceptor. 4.6L SOHC one of the best engines ever built. Efficent for its size if you stay off the pedal. Cheap parts, cheap price tag, rock solid from bumper to bumper. I have a 97 Interceptor. 173,400 miles. Out corners my 94 Accord EX, and you could drive it sideways through a tree and then drive home. I know, I've done it with a Grand Marquis. Original engine. Original transmission. The damn thing will do 130mph easy. The sales of these p71 interceptors and p72 taxicabs have kept Ford up for years. If the rest of the cars built by Detroit were up to this standard this conversation wouldn't be happening.

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Bill

February 7, 2011 12:00 PM

I will never by american even if they happend to build a better car than Toyota and build it all in the US, Why U ask. Becuase as you can see from the comments above the Big 3 have been screwing this country and its consumers because they can for massive profits for the CEO's and top teir employees/managers Etc. They shipped the manufacturing out of the country? let me say that differently, Shipped all the middle class blue collar workers Jobs out of the county, let say it again, Shipped all the largest Tax paying Base jobs out of the country, People who make over 102K dont pay SS and medicair taxes on the incomes over 102K When you send 30-100 K jobs out of the country you cut the SS and medicair tax base. I own a 2005 Toyota Tacoma with 147K miles of hard work abuse and the only repair I have had to make beyond were and tare maintanence items is a Blower motor Resistor, I will never by anything but Toyota ever, I am so disgusted with the american company attitude of screw the consumer and doi whats best for there bottom line than this country I will Walk before I will ever own a car bagded by the Big (Little)3. They need to be out out of business permanatly and let those companies that do what is best for society take over.

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